Speculation: Firesale?

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Pens should take a page out of Edmonton's book and just play Sid and Geno together. Put a guy like McGinn on the other wing to be defensively responsible and do the forechecking, then fill out the rest of the roster with what's left.

Sure. But who cares? That gets us playing the two of them for 25 minutes a night while we desperately scramble to make up lost ground and maybe sneak into the playoffs, gassed and beaten up, just to get eliminated in the 1st--maaaaaybe 2nd round again.

Go full blender with the lines, f*** it. But deal Letang and Rust by the deadline, I'm begging you Hextall.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Sure. But who cares? That gets us playing the two of them for 25 minutes a night while we desperately scramble to make up lost ground and maybe sneak into the playoffs, gassed and beaten up, just to get eliminated in the 1st--maaaaaybe 2nd round again.

Go full blender with the lines, f*** it. But deal Letang and Rust by the deadline, I'm begging you Hextall.

I just want to see Sid and Geno on the same line. I'm under no illusions that this team, as it's currently constructed, will go anywhere in the playoffs regardless of line combinations.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Guys a little perspective puhlerze? Remember the Cup in 2009? Well we are all 12.5 years closer to dying now.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I just want to see Sid and Geno on the same line. I'm under no illusions that this team, as it's currently constructed, will go anywhere in the playoffs regardless of line combinations.

From the standpoint of "If you're gonna suck, at least be entertaining", I get it and agree. I don't really care what they do, and don't think it matters, so give the big two-headed monster one final hurrah.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think we need to give Sullivan another 164 games without changing anything before we can make a decision.

 

[Habs10025]

Trade Sid.

Hell, trade 'em all; god will know his own.

Can't trade Crosby or Malkin unless they agree to a trade and only to a team of their choosing.

 

[wgknestrick]

That leaves you with Kapanen, Marino and Pettersson on the NHL roster.

That's it.

Exactly

 

[Night Shift]

So who are the untouchables if we trade the big 3?

I'm going with Marino and the Goalie prospects

 

[Pens1566]

So who are the untouchables if we trade the big 3?

I'm going with Marino and the Goalie prospects

Marino is the only name I came up with that fits into a "not trying to shop actively" category. Wouldn't even come close to calling him untouchable.

But, yeah. He's one of the least likely to be dealt should we tear it down.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Can't trade Crosby or Malkin unless they agree to a trade and only to a team of their choosing.

No shit.

 

[EightyOne]

Why is Marino untouchable????

 

[Night Shift]

Why is Marino untouchable????

Maybe untouchable is over exaggerated on my part. I brought up somewhere else that he may be wise to keep if we were to blow it up (or whatever) and go through a youth movement, being 24. But he also fills some of the cap floor requirement, which makes sense since he's still developing.

Edit: But let's say we don't see the "youth" for a few years, he can be a solid vet on this team by then to have assuming he meets expectations.

 

[Crosbyfan]

We were a competitive goalie away from potentially going deep last playoffs.

 

[TimmyD]

I would be open to trading anyone outside of Sid for the right return. That being said, I would start by firing Sull and then I would move guys like Rust, Jake, Dumo, Marino, Zucker, Kap, etc to try and get some better fits or some pieces and see how that works and if it makes the mix any better. If it doesn't and they still aren't gelling and aren't looking like a playoff team, then move onto trading Malkin and Letang

 

[The Old Master]

Well, if they're not firing the coach .....

it will be very hard to tell what we have if the coach will not move players around trying to see who fits better with who. imo so we would be going into trades blind.

 

[Gurglesons]

I’d move Marino in the blink of an eye.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I’d move Marino in the blink of an eye.

I don't know what happened to the guy after his rookie season.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

We outshot the Isles and that's good enough for me. Just ask the Bruins against the same Isles. Or the Habs against the Lightning.

 

[The Old Master]

I don't know what happened to the guy after his rookie season.

sully.

 

[Night Shift]

sully.

Maybe a coach that isn't past his expiration would help here...yes

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't know what happened to the guy after his rookie season.

It’s bizarre. I can’t identify anything he does well. At least Matheson is putting up points.

 

[edog37]

I don't know what happened to the guy after his rookie season.

D-men always take a long time to develop. Marino is fine & will be so.

 

[ChaosAgent]

D-men always take a long time to develop. Marino is fine & will be so.

Marino is one of our best players. I dunno what deflection is going on from our impotent forwards, but "lookie here John Marino sucks lol" is falling on deaf ears.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I don't think Marino sucks. I think he's kinda like... a smaller, less defensively savvy Dumo with better offensive instincts/skills.

But neither would I tap him as a must-keep moving ahead. Far from it. Marino isn't Core 2.0 material, IMO. If he is that's... not super great.

 

[edog37]

Marino is one of our best players. I dunno what deflection is going on from our impotent forwards, but "lookie here John Marino sucks lol" is falling on deaf ears.

I agree. Marino will anchor the blue line in a few years. I don't worry about guys learning a difficult position. The amount of reads d-men have to learn is mind boggling.