Proposal: Fire DJ Smith

Should the Sens fire DJ Smith?


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Beech

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this post belongs in several threads, but of late all that is being talked about is firing of staff when new ownership arrives...

Does it not seem that things have gone real quiet??? It seems like its being a month since any story surfaced anywhere
 

BonHoonLayneCornell

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this post belongs in several threads, but of late all that is being talked about is firing of staff when new ownership arrives...

Does it not seem that things have gone real quiet??? It seems like its being a month since any story surfaced anywhere
Well Brucie was up there yesterday saying the process is taking longer than anticipated and now says March is likely when we find out, if not later, so it seems like the whole thing is just sort of dragging on and going a bit quiet because of it.
 

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this post belongs in several threads, but of late all that is being talked about is firing of staff when new ownership arrives...

Does it not seem that things have gone real quiet??? It seems like its being a month since any story surfaced anywhere
sale process being quiet is a good thing
 

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Could you see new mamagement keeping DJ but letting go of Dorion?

no one is being fired, let go or whatever, assuming new ownership takes over before the end of the regular season……until after the Senators are finished the regular season ( don’t believe they make the playoffs).

If new ownership decides they need to replace the GM, before the entry draft, if will be done asap, if there is a candidate new ownership feels “is the guy” for them….. most likely “the guy” they want is already employed by another team, and may decide it’s best to wait until that team is also finished their season/eliminated from playoffs.

If PD is eventually let go, and DJ is not, whomever the new GM is, may decide to let DJ go during the offseason, when the GM either during the hiring process demanded to hire whom he wants as Coach, or at some point next season.

sale process being quiet is a good thing
 
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aragorn

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Playing low event hockey shouldn't mean getting destroyed 5v5, not that we actually are low event, we have the highest combine shot attempts in the league, even more recently since we started playing better we're still top 10.

Sure, we're playing tighter defensive hockey but have one of the lowest scoring teams 5v5 in the league. With the talent we have up front that's pretty disappointing.

There's no rule that you can only be good 5v5 or on special teams. If want to move forward as a team, we need to be good at both.
That's why DeBrincat was brought in the help with the offensive production, he has done that with his playmaking skills & recently looks like his goal scoring could be turning up. If he starts to get it going & Norris comes back & maybe they call up Sokolov another point producer they could start making some noise. Their special teams are on fire.
 
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aragorn

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no one is being fired, let go or whatever, assuming new ownership takes over before the end of the regular season……until after the Senators are finished the regular season ( don’t believe they make the playoffs).

If new ownership decides they need to replace the GM, before the entry draft, if will be done asap, if there is a candidate new ownership feels “is the guy” for them….. most likely “the guy” they want is already employed by another team, and may decide it’s best to wait until that team is also finished their season/eliminated from playoffs.

If PD is eventually let go, and DJ is not, whomever the new GM is, may decide to let DJ go during the offseason, when the GM either during the hiring process demanded to hire whom he wants as Coach, or at some point next season.


There will be those who look at how this good young team is built & their potential & think PD & DJ have done a good job so far with their drafting & their recent signings getting a number of their better young players under contract long term. They may give them some time to see if they can improve it & if this team can start contending for a playoff spot & more in future. Remember the summer of Pierre, then the Zub signing, next it might be Talbot then DeBrincat & those will be looked at as wins as well.

He could make a trade soon to help improve the team trying to garner a playoff spot too. I'll be surprised if either are fired in their first yr, more likely after another season with new management befor a decision is made in terminating PD or DJ. IMO they will also likely let them have another draft to see if they can grab another good young prospect, afterall it's what Pierre is suppose to be good at.
 

OD99

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Fritomania? You're an Orleans guy. Try the sausages at Canadian Tire. They're pretty good too



I remember running into Healy at Darcy McGees on Sparks Street. God he was an ass
Lots of NHL players and personnel went there. Those were the days teams stayed at the Chateau Laurier.
 

Tuna99

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this post belongs in several threads, but of late all that is being talked about is firing of staff when new ownership arrives...

Does it not seem that things have gone real quiet??? It seems like its being a month since any story surfaced anywhere

Sens are late on their financial disclosure, was supposed to start early December and it still hasn’t begun.
 

OgieO

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Sens are late on their financial disclosure, was supposed to start early December and it still hasn’t begun.
Bruce's article indicated the league wanted to make sure all interested parties were fully vetted before opening up the finances. Nothing about the Sens being late
 

Tuna99

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Bruce's article indicated the league wanted to make sure all interested parties were fully vetted before opening up the finances. Nothing about the Sens being late

That’s one side of the story. The other side is the financial audit was supposed to start in December but the Sens weren’t ready to show the books
 
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Golden_Jet

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Sens are late on their financial disclosure, was supposed to start early December and it still hasn’t begun.
It’s not the Sens, the holdup is the NHL as they want to vet everyone before getting financials.

That’s one side of the story. The other side is the financial audit was supposed to start in December but the Sens weren’t ready to show the books
Ya that’s your made up story side.
 

Big Muddy

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But i do remember those great Oiler Dallas games where they just seemed to open it up and they were fun to watch.
That sentence jogged my memory. I remember watching some of those games while having a few drinks on the beach in Roatan. Weird flashback I guess LOL.
 

Big Muddy

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It’s not the Sens, the holdup is the NHL as they want to vet everyone before getting financials.

Ya that’s your made up story side.
I must admit, when I heard that info from the Garrioch interview, the idea did cross my mind that I hope that there's no financial or accounting "irregularities" or something else that's problematic. I'm not basing it on anything, or suggesting there will be, but the thought crossed my mind. There's a bit of history with regulatory issues when it comes to Melnyk.

As always of course, I/we hope for the best.

 

Micklebot

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It’s not the Sens, the holdup is the NHL as they want to vet everyone before getting financials.


Ya that’s your made up story side.
Just before Xmas it was reported that due to the holiday season they were having trouble getting everything ready for the data room, i don't recall if it was explicitly stated that it was the sens having trouble getting stuff together or if that was just inferred but that's were it comes from.

It may have been bidders couldn't round up what was needed to be vetted because of holidays, or maybe it was Sens providing Audited financial statements going back at least five years, The details of every contract signed by the organization, including player, hockey operations and general staff contracts, The terms and conditions of every deal the franchise has signed with a vendor or sponsorship partner, broadcasting deals with media rights holders, including the exact wording of their current contract with BellMedia, exact numbers on season ticket holders detailed information about the business operations of every entity under the club’s umbrella, including the Belleville Senators and the Sensplex arenas, Specific information about the club’s charitable endeavours ect. In the end, it doesn't really matter, it's understandable that things got delayed because of the scope of what needed to be assembled and the timing with people on leave for holidays.
 
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thinkwild

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I had assumed the delay with the data room was because of the buyers, not the seller. Opening up the books is only going to be done when there is a serious chance of a deal. I dont think they will want to be letting people see it who are just curious and then not going to really make an offer. Must be a difficult process to manage. Would be interesting behind the scenes stuff that could maybe be part of a Ryan Reynolds show.
 

thinkwild

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That sentence jogged my memory. I remember watching some of those games while having a few drinks on the beach in Roatan. Weird flashback I guess LOL.
Looks like some beautiful beaches to watch a game from. Its nice that we can do that nowadays. I dont hear of Honduras as a vacation spot much.
 

Big Muddy

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Looks like some beautiful beaches to watch a game from. Its nice that we can do that nowadays. I dont hear of Honduras as a vacation spot much.
Roatan is an island off the coast of Honduras. Quite nice and met a few ex pat Americans living there. Scuba diving was the big initial attraction, but it became more of a known destination years later. Coral reefs are nice there, hence the attraction for scuba divers, although you can see a lot just snorkeling as well. The coral is disappearing though as the oceans get warmer. Definitely well worth checking out. I've done a lot of traveling over the years - e.g., 45 countries.
 
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swiftwin

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People are finally coming around on DJ


Clearly, the players believe in this coach because they have bought into his message. And they have his back. When social media was full of anti-Smith rhetoric, and “Fi-re DJ!” chants rang out at a few home games, players stood up for him.

I'm still waiting for the "Sorry DJ!" chant.
 

Sens of Anarchy

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People are finally coming around on DJ




I'm still waiting for the "Sorry DJ!" chant.
What's that expression? "Hold your breath" or something like that
 
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