Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[montreal]

He will do that in Laval or Montreal. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by lining him up against teams that will ice some 16 and 17 year old players. He needs to continue to learn how to use his size and strength against men not against children.

he's 18 the average age in the CHL is 18, it's not like he would be playing against much younger players on average.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

he's 18 the average age in the CHL is 18, it's not like he would be playing against much younger players on average.

Was referring to the fact that he will be competing against 16 and 17 year old boys. I wasn't insinuating that he won't be facing 18-20 year old players.

There aren't any 16 or 17 year old boys in the AHL, was probably the way that I should have phrased it.

Either way the idea of him playing in the CHL is asinine as he will learn nothing from over powering weak little boys. He needs to play with men where he can hone the one skill that will separate him from most players and that is using his size and strength to create time and space.

Slaf will certainly play pro hockey in North America next season and if he stays healthy he has a strong chance of finishing in the NHL.....he may even start there.

 

[montreal]

Was referring to the fact that he will be competing against 16 and 17 year old boys. I wasn't insinuating that he won't be facing 18-20 year old players.

There aren't any 16 or 17 year old boys in the AHL, was probably the way that I should have phrased it.

Either way the idea of him playing in the CHL is asinine as he will learn nothing from over powering weak little boys. He needs to play with men where he can hone the one skill that will separate him from most players and that is using his size and strength to create time and space.

Slaf will certainly play pro hockey in North America next season and if he stays healthy he has a strong chance of finishing in the NHL.....he may even start there.

It's silly to suggest that he wouldn't learn anything in the best junior league in the world. It's not like just set liiga on fire. Since the average age is 18, he would face as many 16 year olds as he does 20 give or take, so it would be a mix of younger and older. I haven't seen much of him yet but there's no way he doesn't have things that he could learn from in the OHL. The Habs have been burned so many times by rushing these kids to the NHL, it seems stupid to do it once again.

 

[HostileCapSpace]

With the war going on, I'm going to guess that the habs will press on all Europeans to come to NA to take them out of the military service by capture scenario - if the Russians go in Lithuania next that will happen in Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia. (I'm not talking about Estonia, and Latvia because they are already there). I guess the DEL or the SHL are still safe from this for now.

lol If Russia attacks a NATO country the NHL season will be the least of our concerns

 

[NotProkofievian]

Was referring to the fact that he will be competing against 16 and 17 year old boys. I wasn't insinuating that he won't be facing 18-20 year old players.

There aren't any 16 or 17 year old boys in the AHL, was probably the way that I should have phrased it.

Either way the idea of him playing in the CHL is asinine as he will learn nothing from over powering weak little boys. He needs to play with men where he can hone the one skill that will separate him from most players and that is using his size and strength to create time and space.

Slaf will certainly play pro hockey in North America next season and if he stays healthy he has a strong chance of finishing in the NHL.....he may even start there.

Yeah, Slaf doesn't belong in junior, but Mesar? I think he could benefit from a season in the OHL, even, or perhaps especially, if he puts up dominant offensive numbers.

 

[vladis271]

With the war going on, I'm going to guess that the habs will press on all Europeans to come to NA to take them out of the military service by capture scenario - if the Russians go in Lithuania next that will happen in Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia. (I'm not talking about Estonia, and Latvia because they are already there). I guess the DEL or the SHL are still safe from this for now.

European countries, you mentioned, do not have mandatory military service. In the case these players had to serve it would mean NATO - Russia war (all mentioned countries are NATO members, so we are talking about activation of article 5). I doubt there is an NHL hockey if such a war appears.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

It's silly to suggest that he wouldn't learn anything in the best junior league in the world. It's not like just set liiga on fire. Since the average age is 18, he would face as many 16 year olds as he does 20 give or take, so it would be a mix of younger and older. I haven't seen much of him yet but there's no way he doesn't have things that he could learn from in the OHL. The Habs have been burned so many times by rushing these kids to the NHL, it seems stupid to do it once again.

This is a topic you and I have sometimes disagreed on and that is fine as we have both laid out our respective differences. I suspect you will concede that there is probably no chance that Slafkovsky plays a single game in the CHL.

Yeah, Slaf doesn't belong in junior, but Mesar? I think he could benefit from a season in the OHL, even, or perhaps especially, if he puts up dominant offensive numbers.

Mesar would benefit from playing in the CHL but I suspect that he will remain in Europe.

 

[Wateredgarden]

If Roy will benefit from playing in the CHL at 19 Yo, Mesar can benefit from playing a year at 18 yo.

 

[Doc5]

If Roy will benefit from playing in the CHL at 19 Yo, Mesar can benefit from playing a year at 18 yo.

I mean, benefit aside, if we had the option of having Roy playing in the AHL, we would all choose that over the CHL. So since we have the option for Mesar, it merits serious consideration. Either way, anywhere in NA should be good for his development.

 

[montreal]

I mean, benefit aside, if we had the option of having Roy playing in the AHL, we would all choose that over the CHL. So since we have the option for Mesar, it merits serious consideration. Either way, anywhere in NA should be good for his development.

no way I would chose to have Roy in the AHL next year, he still has a lot to work on in the Q.

 

[Doc5]

no way I would chose to have Roy in the AHL next year, he still has a lot to work on in the Q.

Oh interesting, I’d always to defer to your input. From the highlights I’ve seen and his stats, I felt like he would benefit more from being in a Pro league environment.

 

[SOLR]

European countries, you mentioned, do not have mandatory military service. In the case these players had to serve it would mean NATO - Russia war (all mentioned countries are NATO members, so we are talking about activation of article 5). I doubt there is an NHL hockey if such a war appears.

1. Ukraine did not have mandatory military service, conscription is always 1 vote away. You are being naive if you think otherwise.

2. I'm not suggesting there would be NHL hockey, I'm saying that the habs would play on their own self-interest and bring all of their assets to NA just in case. In the sequence of events, there might be a NATO-Russia interaction at the same time as a China-Taiwan interaction - but the key is, you don't really know the when, so you plan ahead and you move your assets ahead of time.

 

[montreal]

Oh interesting, I’d always to defer to your input. From the highlights I’ve seen and his stats, I felt like he would benefit more from being in a Pro league environment.

he needs to work on himself first, improve lower body strength, add mass, work on getting quicker more explosive.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Really really solid pick by Habs management right there. Top 6 potential, for sure. I really like his skillset... I wanted Firkus, but I think Mesar have really really good skillset too.

Toffoli for Heineman and Mesar, looks really good for the future. Great work by Hughes.

 

[Licou]

European countries, you mentioned, do not have mandatory military service. In the case these players had to serve it would mean NATO - Russia war (all mentioned countries are NATO members, so we are talking about activation of article 5). I doubt there is an NHL hockey if such a war appears.

Both world wars didn't stop the NHL seasons. Unless there is a global nuclear war, the NHL will keep on trucking.

 

[ahmedou]

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Having never watched him play, the idea of Mesar reminds me of that guy Washington picked and then traded to Detroit in the Mantha trade.

 

[TT1]

Mesar is AHL ready imo

 

[calder candidate]

Mesar seem like a great player, maybe wasn't has sexy as Kulich and Lambert which would have been the other two player I consider picking at 26, I had Lambert, Kulich and Mesar so I don't think he is that much of a reach.

He is very is quick and agile but he doesn't have the straight line speed like Lambert and Kulich, but he seem way better at finding he way to the middle of the ice, passing and all around managing the puck, really good at controling and handling the puck. Having another Slovak which should help Slaf is just a bonus.

Not sure if it is me trying rationalised the pick but the more I think about the more I think he might have been the right pick.
This is how I see it
Skating: Lambert > Mesar, Kulich
Shot: Kulich > Mesar = Lambert
IQ : Mesar>Kulich>Lambert
Passing: Mesar, Lambert > Kulich

 

[MtlSars]

He is AHL eligible since he hasn't played for his OHL club right?

 

[Garbageyuk]

I really hope he pans out; there were players with much higher upside available at 26.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I really hope he pans out; there were players with much higher upside available at 26.

Eh I don't think so. A few players in the same tier with different skill-sets, but much higher upside? No.

 

[Scotianhab]

Why do people want him in The AHL so fast? Let him go to Kitchener for 2 years and improve his play and get stronger etc. I’ll guess he is %100 going to be in the CHL next year. He wants to come over. We need to stop rushing our prospects. Let them f***ing develop.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Eh I don't think so. A few players in the same tier with different skill-sets, but much higher upside? No.

A 2nd line 20-25g, 20-25a guy, and I’m happy. Basically a slightly more offensive oriented Lehkonen. Anything less than that will be let-down, especially if one of the guys taken immediately after him hits, which is basically a guarantee.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Why do people want him in The AHL so fast? Let him go to Kitchener for 2 years and improve his play and get stronger etc. I’ll guess he is %100 going to be in the CHL next year. He wants to come over. We need to stop rushing our prospects. Let them f***ing develop.

This is the Montreal way of development. Throw your eggs against the wall, and keep the ones that don't break.