Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[ChesterNimitz]

We don’t know that at this time.

All signs point to Dubois really wanting to play in Montreal. Once the cap has been established between Suzuki and Caufield’s deal Dubois won’t be in much of a position to ask for more than them.

The team is trending in the right direction and he seems to want to be here, don’t be surprised if he signs for less.

There are very few significant free agent deals that don’t come back to bite the signing team in the rear end. If we want to win, I would suggest we use our precious cap space on acquiring an elite goaltender. We have a plethora of young, promising and inexpensive forwards and defencemen in our system. I see no potential championship level goaltender on the horizon.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

For the time being Dach appears to have issues at C but plays a good winger game.
Dubois at #2C makes sense. Some will say keep Monahan, but he’s older, and a history of serious injuries, and with Drouin on the way out there’ll be pressure to bring in the next French guy.

There was pressure on the team to draft Wright. I would suggest that the road to success is more certain if we can resist these extraneous ‘pressures’.

 

[MasterD]

There was pressure on the team to draft Wright. I would suggest that the road to success is more certain if we can resist these extraneous ‘pressures’.

I don't disagree, but this is Montreal, and our owner is Molson. He remembers when he hired Cunneyworth, and he remembers that 1 (it was 1, right?) game where we had no french player on the roster under MB. That's not happening again, no matter what we think.

 

[MTL-rules]

For the time being Dach appears to have issues at C but plays a good winger game.
Dubois at #2C makes sense. Some will say keep Monahan, but he’s older, and a history of serious injuries, and with Drouin on the way out there’ll be pressure to bring in the next French guy.

Is it possible please to stop referring to french speaking Quebecers as "french". We are not from France.

It would even be more suitable as to talk about 'local guy" since it has nothing to do with the language... Every team in the league wants a local player for marketing reasons.

As for Dubois, he's actually a very good player with size... Who probably want to sign here as a UFA. I don't care where he's from, that's good enough for me... How many high profile UFAs have we signed lately ?

 

[CHwest]

Is it possible please to stop referring to french speaking Quebecers as "french". We are not from France.

It would even be more suitable as to talk about 'local guy" since it has nothing to do with the language... Every team in the league wants a local player for marketing reasons.

As for Dubois, he's actually a very good player with size... Who probably want to sign here as a UFA. I don't care where he's from, that's good enough for me... How many high profile UFAs have we signed lately ?

The fans of this team are so over the top with this tribal BS it is not even funny. I have never heard we need a local guy from the western teams, never.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I don't disagree, but this is Montreal, and our owner is Molson. He remembers when he hired Cunneyworth, and he remembers that 1 (it was 1, right?) game where we had no french player on the roster under MB. That's not happening again, no matter what we think.

Perhaps Molson and the fan base will tire of having won only two cups in the last half century and none in now three decades. I would suggest that most of the team’s fan base were born after the last dynasty. One of the reasons this proud franchise has become largely irrelevant is that it allowed outside ‘pressures’ to dictate its personnel decisions.

 

[MTL-rules]

The fans of this team are so over the top with this tribal BS it is not even funny. I have never heard we need a local guy from the western teams, never.

What a joke, I guess the icon that represented Ryan Smyth in Edmonton had nothing to do about where he was from. Believing otherwise is at best uneducated...

 

[MasterD]

The fans of this team are so over the top with this tribal BS it is not even funny. I have never heard we need a local guy from the western teams, never.

You haven't been listening, then.

Is it possible please to stop referring to french speaking Quebecers as "french". We are not from France.

It would even be more suitable as to talk about 'local guy" since it has nothing to do with the language... Every team in the league wants a local player for marketing reasons.

As for Dubois, he's actually a very good player with size... Who probably want to sign here as a UFA. I don't care where he's from, that's good enough for me... How many high profile UFAs have we signed lately ?

I guess you didn't notice how people didn't care about Scandella and Matheson until the media pointed out that they were local and could speak french. 90% of people in this province just don't care about "local", they care about "french".

And french people from France is spelt French, capitalized, so I'll call myself and people I grew up with french if I see fit. Thank you.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

so this Filip Mesar guy is pretty good at hockey eh

 

[26Mats]

Yes. Just what we need. Another bloated contract that everyone will be regreting two
years after the team offers and signs it. I’m still trying to figure out what an older Dubois will bring that a younger Dach can’t. Whatever it is, it won’t be worth the cost and cap limitations it brings.

Dach and Dubois are very different players.

We need more top 6 players, especially with size.

But yes, the cap number is key. That's a very important point.

 

[Ranger12]

You haven't been listening, then.


I guess you didn't notice how people didn't care about Scandella and Matheson until the media pointed out that they were local and could speak french. 90% of people in this province just don't care about "local", they care about "french".

And french people from France is spelt French, capitalized, so I'll call myself and people I grew up with french if I see fit. Thank you.

Well, I would guestimate that 95% of Habs fans didn't even know that Scandella and Matheson were "local" at the time.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I don't disagree, but this is Montreal, and our owner is Molson. He remembers when he hired Cunneyworth, and he remembers that 1 (it was 1, right?) game where we had no french player on the roster under MB. That's not happening again, no matter what we think.

Dach and Dubois are very different players.

We need more top 6 players, especially with size.

But yes, the cap number is key. That's a very important point.

Dubois will not come cheep. I seriously doubt that he will be worth the premium that many here are prepared to pay for the return of the 'Prodigal Son'.

 

[26Mats]

Dubois will not come cheep. I seriously doubt that he will be worth the premium that many here are prepared to pay for the return of the 'Prodigal Son'.

It depends on what his numbers are when he's a UFA and whether he wants to take a slight discount to help build a winning team in his home town. 7 x 7 seems fair to me. Maybe 8M x 7.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

It depends on what his numbers are when he's a UFA and whether he wants to take a slight discount to help build a winning team in his home town. 7 x 7 seems fair to me. Maybe 8M x 7.

I think a bigger question is whether you would be interested in committing to this player (whether $7 million or more) if he wasn't a home town hero?

 

[MasterD]

Dubois will not come cheep. I seriously doubt that he will be worth the premium that many here are prepared to pay for the return of the 'Prodigal Son'.

Personnally I'm not prepared to pay a premium and don't care wether he's french or local or not, but I definitely think he can be a part of a winning top 6. I'd pay a fair price, probably somewhere around 7M$/year long term

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

so this Filip Mesar guy is pretty good at hockey eh

You're in the wrong thread

 

[26Mats]

I think a bigger question is whether you would be interested in committing to this player (whether $7 million or more) if he wasn't a home town hero?

Yes i would. Big 30 30 guys that are entering their prime and can play center or wing are worth that.

 

[LaP]

I think a bigger question is whether you would be interested in committing to this player (whether $7 million or more) if he wasn't a home town hero?

I would have no problem comitting to Dubois for 7.x millions. Cap will grow in the next 3 years and 7 millions will become normal for young in their prime 25/60 players.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I would have no problem comitting to Dubois for 7.x millions. Cap will grow in the next 3 years and 7 millions will become normal for young in their prime 25/60 players.

Already normal (see Suzuki, Norris, Svechnikov, Hischier, Keller, Connor, etc.)

 

[Brownies]

How did that trail derail so much ? Why are you talking about Dubois here ?

 

[cphabs]

I don't disagree, but this is Montreal, and our owner is Molson. He remembers when he hired Cunneyworth, and he remembers that 1 (it was 1, right?) game where we had no french player on the roster under MB. That's not happening again, no matter what we think.

I’d also like to remind everyone that we have just “realized” that our franchise is operating in a socialist system. Profit sharing etc.

 

[MasterD]

How did that trail derail so much ? Why are you talking about Dubois here ?

This is Hfboards. If a thread isn't derailed, it's not a thread.

 

[Bombshell11]

so this Filip Mesar guy is pretty good at hockey eh

some would even say the goodest

I can't with this guy lmfao

Why are you shitting on our next MSL/ Koivu? Its a blessing Bergevin got fired and the new management drafted him this late in the first.

 

[Paddy17]

Sorry I thought I was in the Mesar thread.

 

[Supersonic]

Came here thinking there was Mesar news lol