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Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

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Egresch said:
They are very different. Size, experience...
Mesar spent his whole life living in parent's house playing for one team. He has two years of experience playing with men, but he had limited time in PP. I guess OHL is good for him to adjust to Canada, different ice size and get a lot o fminutes.
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If he can handle the AHL, he will progress faster. Same as NHL versus AHL, better to play in the stronger league as long as you are not overwhelmed.
 
Natey said:
It also begs the question as to why Slafkovsky is in the NHL. Would 60 points in the AHL not be better than the 30 in the NHL they're probably expecting? PS. I don't really have an issue with Slafkovsky in the NHL either... he'll be better than many of our forwards by the end of the year easily.
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Not even close. 30 points in the NHL is much preferable.

Typically if a young player got 30 points in the NHL, he might get 40-45 the following year.

If a young player got 60 points in the AHL, the following year he will likely get around 25-30 in the NHL, and only if he has NHL skating ability and quickness.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Not even close. 30 points in the NHL is much preferable.

Typically if a young player got 30 points in the NHL, he might get 40-45 the following year.

If a young player got 60 points in the AHL, the following year he will likely get around 25-30 in the NHL, and only if he has NHL skating ability and quickness.
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Find me 10 habs players in the last 25 years that went from 30 points first season and then 40-45 points the following year, without prior AHL background.
 
Bombshell11 said:
Find me 10 habs players in the last 25 years that went from 30 points first season and then 40-45 points the following year, without prior AHL background.
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This the Habs we’re talking about. You’ll have trouble finding 10 players that had more than 45 points a year full stop.

This team has been all about grinding and goalies for way way too long.
 
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MasterD said:
This the Habs we’re talking about. You’ll have trouble finding 10 players that had more than 45 points a year full stop.

This team has been all about grinding and goalies for way way too long.
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my point, montreal cant be compared to the other places
 
Bombshell11 said:
Find me 10 habs players in the last 25 years that went from 30 points first season and then 40-45 points the following year, without prior AHL background.
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I did not say whether the player had played AHL before by the way. The question was simply whether 30 NHL points or 60 AHL points is better. I think the 30 NHL points is the bigger achievement.

The Habs have not had 10 forwards in total skip the AHL since the lockout so your challenge is not going to be conclusive.

But look around the league. Typically very young promising propsects in the NHL improve in their second and third years. Lecavalier, Thornton, Hughes, Kucherov, and many more.

With the Habs, Saku who was a 21st OA pick, went form 0.54 ppg in his first year to 1.12 ppg in this second year. Do I think he would have been among the league leaders in year 2 (before injury) if he had been in the AHL the prior year? No, he would have still needed a year to adjust to the NHL in all likelihood.
 
Fainting Couch said:
You mean the one game they gave him so he can see the level played in the AHL? Is that what is passing for "toiling" these days?
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Yes, in the grand scheme of development, having an 18 year old fight it out for ice time against seasoned AHL vets is not my preferred route to success. I want him firmly holding a #1 line + regular PP time to maximize his skills. OHL provides that, the AHL is a complex league for very young players.
 
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Gustave said:
Yes, in the grand scheme of development, having an 18 year old fight it out for ice time against seasoned AHL vets is not my preferred route to success.
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You are pretending it was for the management, though and that they finally came around to your thinking
 
Fainting Couch said:
You are pretending it was for the management, though and that they finally came around to your thinking
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I don't know exactly what management thought was best per say. I just know that my way of seeing things unfold for Mesar involves icetime and first line usage. I feel he can get that now instead of getting the hard way up in the AHL. So i'm happy with the result.
 
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Played great at camp, but isn't close to being physically ready.

If he gets stronger, he can always play in Laval next year. Looking forward to seeing him play in OHL & at 2023 WJCs.

Opportunity to really build his game in Kitchener.
 
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Gustave said:
I don't know exactly what management thought was best per say. I just know that my way of seeing things unfold for Mesar involves icetime and first line usage. I feel he can get that now instead of getting the hard way up in the AHL. So i'm happy with the result.
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There shouldn't be any hard way up. HuGo should sit down with Houle and give him his marching orders. Mysak and Mesar play on the second line with a good veteran to start. Or Houle can replace Jackeye at Costco.
 
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