Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

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any way man i have argued with you on this earlier and we're doing circles. its been almost 2 months we have no data oh his play, its best to see where he's at now
1. That was a response to Belial, not you.

2. Did we really? I don't remember you at all and made very few apparitions in this thread...
 
Dominating kids after playing against men will teach him nothing imo. We all learn the most when we struggle.

I saw an interesting program about MMA training. They said it was good for them to practice against lower competition, so they could practice finishing skills.

While it's good to be challenged, you don't want a kid to get demolished/injured in a very physical league. I doubt he wouldn't be able to learn a lot in the OHL.
 
I saw an interesting program about MMA training. They said it was good for them to practice against lower competition, so they could practice finishing skills.

While it's good to be challenged, you don't want a kid to get demolished/injured in a very physical league. I doubt he wouldn't be able to learn a lot in the OHL.
Agreed. Have made a bit of a 180 on this. Wouldn't be bad for him to spend a season getting his offensive mojo in top notch form before turning pro. Would be better than him focusing on grinding to keep up with the AHL.
 
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AHL vets are an integral part of prospect development. There's a reason why the league is not an U25 league.

Less than half of the top50 are U22.



Development camp had him at 5'10 167 lbs.

His legs don't change the fact that he won't dominate physically against CHL players. Such a weird response.
I think the AHL should be a u25 league.. the "true" prospects development league.

At 26 you go play in the ECHL.

I saw an interesting program about MMA training. They said it was good for them to practice against lower competition, so they could practice finishing skills.

While it's good to be challenged, you don't want a kid to get demolished/injured in a very physical league. I doubt he wouldn't be able to learn a lot in the OHL.
Or, for your top prospects getting demolished by AHL plugs... another reason it shiuld be a U25 league
 
isn't it amazing to think we could have our AHL club with all the top scorers/players "actual" prospects and not these dudes MB used to pick up. When I check other teams AHL affiliates, you always see the top scorers: 19yo, 22, 21, 20 - but during MB era was always 28,29,27,33 journeymen. complete and utterly useless development.

Why on earth have a farm team filled with guys who have no shot at the NHL?

Every AHL team is filled with AHL lifers. There are teams with more prospects than others, but every team has more of those vets than they do prospects.

Also, not many AHL teams have their prospects as their top scorers. Some do, but the majority of them have guys 26 and older as their top scorers. And I don't mean just the guy who finished 1st in scoring on the team, but of the top-5 scorers on the team, you might find a prospect there. But most of them are the AHL lifer.

Last year, Laval's top scorer was RHP (22 yo) and Ylonen finished 4th in scoring (21 yo). And he played less games because he spent more time in the NHL than the rest of them. So out their top-5 scorers, Laval had 2 of their prospects.

I agree with you that this upcoming season should be more fun because there will be more prospects to follow.
 
I think the AHL should be a u25 league.. the "true" prospects development league.

At 26 you go play in the ECHL.

"Sorry Mr. Player, last year at 25, you were one of the league's best players. But now that you're 26, you have no choice but to go down to play at a lower level where you will make less money."

My question to you with this idea, who will the prospects learn from?

Young players who come into the NHL need veterans around to learn from. To teach them what it means to be a pro on and off the ice.

It is the same in the AHL. You aren't doing these kids favors if you only surround them with other kids. They need the vets to learn from.
 
"Sorry Mr. Player, last year at 25, you were one of the league's best players. But now that you're 26, you have no choice but to go down to play at a lower level where you will make less money."

My question to you with this idea, who will the prospects learn from?

Young players who come into the NHL need veterans around to learn from. To teach them what it means to be a pro on and off the ice.

It is the same in the AHL. You aren't doing these kids favors if you only surround them with other kids. They need the vets to learn from.

"Sorry Mr. Player, last year at 25, you were one of the league's best players. But now that you're 26, you have no choice but to go down to play at a lower level where you will make less money."

My question to you with this idea, who will the prospects learn from?

Young players who come into the NHL need veterans around to learn from. To teach them what it means to be a pro on and off the ice.

It is the same in the AHL. You aren't doing these kids favors if you only surround them with other kids. They need the vets to learn from.
I consider a 25yo at the apex of strength, and if said player has spent 6years in the AHL grinding it out with a few NHL games - id consider him to be a good veteren to learn from.
So you make the AHL U25, and allow for 3 overagers on each roster.
 
I really hope Mesar goes to Kitchener for the season. In the AHL he will probably be more of a third liner with maybe some PP time. Let him go to Kitchener where he can be a go to player on the Rangers and will play 20 minutes a game. He is on the smaller side and give him one year to maybe bull up a little before turning pro.
 
I consider a 25yo at the apex of strength, and if said player has spent 6years in the AHL grinding it out with a few NHL games - id consider him to be a good veteren to learn from.
So you make the AHL U25, and allow for 3 overagers on each roster.

The AHL already has something like this.

Of the 18 skaters in a game 13 have to be considered developing players. Which means under 260 pro games (1 of the 13 can be between 260 and 320)

The remaing 5 can be veterans exceeding the 260.

Assuming players play all games they should be considered not developing after 3.5 years. Say the make the AHL on average of 21 then your rules are basically already in place...
 
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i dint see the whole game but when ever i saw him he was by far the better the player from the squad.
 
Mesar has not played center for the last two seasons. It is very common for young top players to play center for a long time before shifting to the wing when they move up to play with better players where their strengths often play better on the wing. Of course you wouldn't know such truths from your couch but please continue to embarass yourself.

Mesar in his own words considers himself a winger but what does he know?


Watch buddy, watch and learn.

Mesar is playing Center for the habs right now
 
Dominating kids after playing against men will teach him nothing imo. We all learn the most when we struggle.
Mesar needs to learn to be the man on a team and grow his own confidence level vs his peers. If he can dominate in the OHL he will be more likely to be a force in the AHL the season after. That's what he needs. Confidence, experience and progress.

Basicaly the opposite we did with Kotkaniemi.
 

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