Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[Andrei79]

Yep, among the undersized players in this draft, Mesar was easily one of my favorites, had him over Savoie, Ostlund, Nazar ect.

Why did you have him over Nazar and Savoie? I've seen a few posters regard those two as future first liners or even stars.

 

[Toene]

I remember that ages ago (early 2000s?) there used to be French threads about the Habs, but I'm not sure whether it was here on HFBoards or somewhere else. (Perhaps it was only later that they decided to turn HFBoards into an English-only message board?)

There was forums on RDS.ca but it was an absolute shitshow and the dumbest takes I've ever read. It was like a late-night call-in sports radio show but written and with even more grammar mistakes.

 

[Apfel Struble]

There was forums on RDS.ca but it was an absolute shitshow and the dumbest takes I've ever read. It was like a late-night call-in sports radio show but written and with even more grammar mistakes.

Oh yeah, Le Grand Club. In hindsight it was absolutely hilarious with all the terrible takes. Good times

 

[Goldenhands]

Why did you have him over Nazar and Savoie? I've seen a few posters regard those two as future first liners or even stars.

Thats a good question. I think he is a more explosive skater than Nazar and plays at a higher geared pace. I like how combative and effective he is at working the boards, kid is slippery and hard to countain. I feel like he potentially offers the most complete package of the undersized guys, I cant really point out exactly why Im not that much of a Savoie fan, everytime I watched him I felt that something was missing, he has tools but not sure how translatable it will be, I feel like he plays more like a junior than a pro. Ostlund is an exceptional skater and transitional player who executes plays at a high end level, but gets pushed around rather easily, not sure he is going to end up as a center at the NHL level. That being said, any of those small players still could amount to very good players, I just feel that Mesar is easier to project and the most likely to reach his celling, but thats my personal opinion and I havent scouted those kids extensively.

 

[themilosh]

There was forums on RDS.ca but it was an absolute shitshow and the dumbest takes I've ever read. It was like a late-night call-in sports radio show but written and with even more grammar mistakes.

I love call in radio, got hooked when i was young listening to Aaron Rand show.. doesnt seem to happen much anymore

 

[NotProkofievian]

Thats a good question. I think he is a more explosive skater than Nazar and plays at a higher geared pace. I like how combative and effective he is at working the boards, kid is slippery and hard to countain. I feel like he potentially offers the most complete package of the undersized guys, I cant really point out exactly why Im not that much of a Savoie fan, everytime I watched him I felt that something was missing, he has tools but not sure how translatable it will be, I feel like he plays more like a junior than a pro. Ostlund is an exceptional skater and transitional player who executes plays at a high end level, but gets pushed around rather easily, not sure he is going to end up as a center at the NHL level. That being said, any of those small players still could amount to very good players, I just feel that Mesar is easier to project and the most likely to reach his celling, but thats my personal opinion and I havent scouted those kids extensively.

I agree with the bolded. I never saw a game of Savoie's that I really liked, but I still had to rank him 6th. Looking off tools like those is asking for it, IMO. I learned that with Raymond.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I agree with the bolded. I never saw a game of Savoie's that I really liked, but I still had to rank him 6th. Looking off tools like those is asking for it, IMO. I learned that with Raymond.

Everyone overlooks Raymond

 

[tazsub3]

Hughes should have waited another year to maximize Toffoli value

Exactly when max pac gets given away for cap! With hindsight that trade with Calgary was the steal of steals

 

[NotProkofievian]

Everyone overlooks Raymond

My thinking about guys like Raymond or Savoie, or even Goyette to an extent is that there are two rates you need to consider: the rate at which their games will transfer, and the rate at which you can tell whose game will transfer and whose wont. IMO, the rate at which these guys figure something out is higher than the latter, so you just gotta pick 'em even if you don't particularly like them.

 

[cphabs]

Sell high, buy low Hughes was saying. So far so good!

Capitalism in a socialist league can be a shock for the socialists.

 

[Mrb1p]

There was forums on RDS.ca but it was an absolute shitshow and the dumbest takes I've ever read. It was like a late-night call-in sports radio show but written and with even more grammar mistakes.

I used to post there when I was 10 years old, gimme a break man

 

[Mrb1p]

I agree with the bolded. I never saw a game of Savoie's that I really liked, but I still had to rank him 6th. Looking off tools like those is asking for it, IMO. I learned that with Raymond.

Weve all seen the same thing (Save for SOLR).

Savoie plays a junior game, he makes plays where you go "Yeah okay, that worked but that will never work in the show."

I still ranked him inside the top 10 and above guys I really liked because of his shot and wheels.

Note that I also made these comments about Zegras and thats what (Also him being particularly soft, deferring to teammates instead of going inside and never going down the middle everytime I watched him) made me rank... OUTSIDE THE FIRST ROUND...

Also made these comments about Drouin so who knows.

Tl;dr: dont bet against talent, or at least if you do, realize you just dipped yourself in kerosene and youre outside a trashy night club with a bunch of young ladies asking for a light.

 

[jrom]

Really curious to see how Mesar will do in training camp, he needs to beef up a bit but legs look quite strong already

 

[Mrb1p]

Really curious to see how Mesar will do in training camp, he needs to beef up a bit but legs look quite strong already

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Damn tree trunks!

 

[SOLR]

Everyone overlooks Raymond

Not me... (see a trend?)

My thinking about guys like Raymond or Savoie, or even Goyette to an extent is that there are two rates you need to consider: the rate at which their games will transfer, and the rate at which you can tell whose game will transfer and whose wont. IMO, the rate at which these guys figure something out is higher than the latter, so you just gotta pick 'em even if you don't particularly like them.

Let's not talk about Goyette with Raymond and Savoie.

Translating to the NHL is not rocket science: 1) speed 2) enough courage to play in traffic 3) enough IQ to learn

Raymond and Savoie have all this in spades.

 

[SOLR]

Weve all seen the same thing (Save for SOLR).

Savoie plays a junior game, he makes plays where you go "Yeah okay, that worked but that will never work in the show."

I still ranked him inside the top 10 and above guys I really liked because of his shot and wheels.

Note that I also made these comments about Zegras and thats what (Also him being particularly soft, deferring to teammates instead of going inside and never going down the middle everytime I watched him) made me rank... OUTSIDE THE FIRST ROUND...

Also made these comments about Drouin so who knows.

Tl;dr: dont bet against talent, or at least if you do, realize you just dipped yourself in kerosene and youre outside a trashy night club with a bunch of young ladies asking for a light.

I've seen it, but he was 17. Raymond had a lot of that too. Raymond and Savoie will make plays in the NHL that no ones else can because they don't see an artificial limit to what they can do. Raymond is already doing it, imagine when he'll have full-on NHL fitness levels.

There is a ton of people who devalue great outside shooters on this board - while there are plenty in the NHL, always were. No blame, these guys are hard to find, 1 or 2 per draft.

Drouin doesn't have the courage to play in traffic and at this point doesn't have a shot, and never liked hockey? (Daigle?)

 

[WeThreeKings]

Not me... (see a trend?)



Let's not talk about Goyette with Raymond and Savoie.

Translating to the NHL is not rocket science: 1) speed 2) enough courage to play in traffic 3) enough IQ to learn

Raymond and Savoie have all this in spades.

I wasn't serious

Everyone loves Raymond.

 

[SOLR]

I wasn't serious

Everyone loves Raymond.

haha...and ranked him lower

 

[WeThreeKings]

haha...and ranked him lower

Sorry the correct terms should have been

Everybody overlooks Raymond.
Everybody loves Raymond.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Really curious to see how Mesar will do in training camp, he needs to beef up a bit but legs look quite strong already

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I'm pretty sure MSL didn't have legs quite like that yet at that age He looks like a freaking college running back with those. Kid definitely ain't skipping leg day too often.

 

[Bombshell11]

hes making the team this year... hes the best propect we have atm

 

[badfish]

hes making the team this year... hes the best propect we have atm

Bold take

 

[Runner77]

I'm pretty sure MSL didn't have legs quite like that yet at that age He looks like a freaking college running back with those. Kid definitely ain't skipping leg day too often.

Begs the question — he’s got legs but does he know how to use them?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Begs the question — he’s got legs but does he know how to use them?

ZZ Top say Yes!

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Really curious to see how Mesar will do in training camp, he needs to beef up a bit but legs look quite strong already

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Legs look okay but WTF happened to his arms??