Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[Tim Wallach]

The only thing frustrating me currently is that Adrian Misaljevic is a poor man's version of Mesar. Same size, same speed, same position. And he has slid into the vacancy on Kitchener's top line and has put up 16 points in 8 games because this coach has the team working their tails off. He has them buying into creating offence off backchecking and close puck support for the exact type of give and go's and passing schemes that Mesar thrives on.

Like previous posters, I'm okay with him gaining time in the AHL if he's playing. But I really think the taint of Kitchener's previous coach changed everyone's mindset to the point where he's missing out on a very good situation playing huge minutes right now.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The only thing frustrating me currently is that Adrian Misaljevic is a poor man's version of Mesar. Same size, same speed, same position. And he has slid into the vacancy on Kitchener's top line and has put up 16 points in 8 games because this coach has the team working their tails off. He has them buying into creating offence off backchecking and close puck support for the exact type of give and go's and passing schemes that Mesar thrives on.

Like previous posters, I'm okay with him gaining time in the AHL if he's playing. But I really think the taint of Kitchener's previous coach changed everyone's mindset to the point where he's missing out on a very good situation playing huge minutes right now.

Would that be Juraj's old coach Jussi Ahokas?

 

[WeThreeKings]

You win some, you lose some I guess.

Basically this.

If any one of us were right with any level of consistency, especially when ranking players and choosing them in the right sequence.. we would be the most sought after scouts in the world.

And that statement rings true for actual NHL scouts because even the head scouts of so called good drafting teams have made some decisions that are horrendous at the draft table.

 

[Tim Wallach]

Would that be Juraj's old coach Jussi Ahokas?

Indeed. Though, I'd also credit the new assistants as well. A completely new staff and they immediately corrected the things that plagued the Rangers last year: Work ethic, defensive commitment, organization, passing. All of those things are extreme strengths right now and I can't help but notice they play a very Mesar-friendly game right now. Last year was anything but.

 

[montreal]

The only thing frustrating me currently is that Adrian Misaljevic is a poor man's version of Mesar. Same size, same speed, same position. And he has slid into the vacancy on Kitchener's top line and has put up 16 points in 8 games because this coach has the team working their tails off. He has them buying into creating offence off backchecking and close puck support for the exact type of give and go's and passing schemes that Mesar thrives on.

Like previous posters, I'm okay with him gaining time in the AHL if he's playing. But I really think the taint of Kitchener's previous coach changed everyone's mindset to the point where he's missing out on a very good situation playing huge minutes right now.

it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, I haven't watched Kitchener yet this season but I saw where Misaljevic in 8 games has almost as many goals as he had POINTS last year in 47 games.

Not to start any kind of rumors but I have started to wonder about the situation in Laval. We know that Houle is in his last year of his contract. Gorton made it sound like he would be re-signed shortly in an interview about a month or so ago.

Houle's comments on Mesar were not what you want to see from your AHL HC when it's really the 1st year of the big wave of incoming top prospects (mean most of our top 10+ prospects will be in the AHL between this year and next)

So they know they have to get this right, you have to have the right coach for a time like this as we can't afford mistakes with development. That makes this situation with Mesar interesting in that if Houle doesn't play him I wonder how much pressure management would put on him or how concerned they would be.

Granted it could all work out great in the end, not saying it will or won't just got me wondering since this is such a massively important time for our development team as they have a number of projects in Mesar, Farrell, Roy, Kidney, Mailloux, Norlinder, Trudeau, that will need a lot of work.

 

[WeThreeKings]

it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, I haven't watched Kitchener yet this season but I saw where Misaljevic in 8 games has almost as many goals as he had POINTS last year in 47 games.

Not to start any kind of rumors but I have started to wonder about the situation in Laval. We know that Houle is in his last year of his contract. Gorton made it sound like he would be re-signed shortly in an interview about a month or so ago.

Houle's comments on Mesar were not what you want to see from your AHL HC when it's really the 1st year of the big wave of incoming top prospects (mean most of our top 10+ prospects will be in the AHL between this year and next)

So they know they have to get this right, you have to have the right coach for a time like this as we can't afford mistakes with development. That makes this situation with Mesar interesting in that if Houle doesn't play him I wonder how much pressure management would put on him or how concerned they would be.

Granted it could all work out great in the end, not saying it will or won't just got me wondering since this is such a massively important time for our development team as they have a number of projects in Mesar, Farrell, Roy, Kidney, Mailloux, Norlinder, Trudeau, that will need a lot of work.

If they re=sign Houle.. I'll be very discouraged.

 

[Paddy17]

If they re=sign Houle.. I'll be very discouraged.

Well, he's good at developing 3rd and 4th line players. Just skate hard, work hard, and be defensively conscious without making turnovers. We can have a whole factory of Gignac's and Begin's.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Well, he's good at developing 3rd and 4th line players. Just skate hard, work hard, and be defensively conscious without making turnovers. We can have a whole factory of Gignac's and Begin's.

The Bergevin model.

 

[Captain Mountain]

The Bergevin model.

Montreal would have probably been better off under Bergevin if they could even develop 3rd and 4th liners. Montreal generally didn't develop anybody under him.

 

[Paddy17]

Montreal would have probably been better off under Bergevin if they could even develop 3rd and 4th liners. Montreal generally didn't develop anybody under him.

They didn't develop them because he traded for, claimed and signed all the 3rd and 4th liners he could get his hands on, hence the nickname Bargainbin...

 

[morhilane]

Mesar (mentally) ready to go back to the OHL and he believes it's a good option too.

Article/interview in French:

Filip Mesar est prêt à retourner dans la Ligue de l’Ontario

Que ce soit à Laval ou à Kitchener, le Canadien veut d'abord et avant tout que Filip Mesar, un choix de première ronde en 2022, joue abondamment.

ici.radio-canada.ca

 

[Bombshell11]

Mesar (mentally) ready to go back to the OHL and he believes it's a good option too.

Article/interview in French:

Filip Mesar est prêt à retourner dans la Ligue de l’Ontario

Que ce soit à Laval ou à Kitchener, le Canadien veut d'abord et avant tout que Filip Mesar, un choix de première ronde en 2022, joue abondamment.

ici.radio-canada.ca

This, this is bad development.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Mesar (mentally) ready to go back to the OHL and he believes it's a good option too.

Article/interview in French:

Filip Mesar est prêt à retourner dans la Ligue de l’Ontario

Que ce soit à Laval ou à Kitchener, le Canadien veut d'abord et avant tout que Filip Mesar, un choix de première ronde en 2022, joue abondamment.

ici.radio-canada.ca

Why is he ready to go back? To get away from Houle?

 

[CHwest]

Why is he ready to go back? To get away from Houle?

He is really starting to give head case vibs.

 

[Just this once]

What Houle said was pretty concerning.
He does not play him because of defensive concerns.
And he does not know what the GM wants with him either.
So like bad organizations, he will bench the probably best prospect instead of doing his job and developing him on the ice. So he does videos.

It's the Tinordi development model, just like Primeau. They should seriously think about not drafting at all and do deals like Dach or Newhook. Get players that are already developed, because this is not working.

 

[Egresch]

Mesar (mentally) ready to go back to the OHL and he believes it's a good option too.

Article/interview in French:

Filip Mesar est prêt à retourner dans la Ligue de l’Ontario

Que ce soit à Laval ou à Kitchener, le Canadien veut d'abord et avant tout que Filip Mesar, un choix de première ronde en 2022, joue abondamment.

ici.radio-canada.ca

I think this is good for him and I like the change in his mindset. I guess he was little bit overwhelmed by all the fame and his goal was to play in NHL asap. Now, he realizes he needs to work a lot and be more patient.
It is interesting that Kitchener is coached by Slaf s former TPS coach. I heard he focuses more on defense and system. This might be actually good for Mešár, he has top offensive skills, just needs to work on his weaknesses and consistency.

 

[morhilane]

Why is he ready to go back? To get away from Houle?

To have top 6 minutes and lots of PP time.

He changed his view on things, last year he just wanted to make the Habs as fast as possible. Now he just want to focus on his development. He's a lot more realistic about where he is his (physical and game-wise).

 

[yianik]

Why is he ready to go back? To get away from Houle?

Sounds like he is having his Patches moment. Send him down.

And what Houle is saying is not good, he is not on the MSL plan of development. And he doesn't know what the GM wants ? WTF.

 

[dinodebino]

Mesar (mentally) ready to go back to the OHL and he believes it's a good option too.

Article/interview in French:

Filip Mesar est prêt à retourner dans la Ligue de l’Ontario

Que ce soit à Laval ou à Kitchener, le Canadien veut d'abord et avant tout que Filip Mesar, un choix de première ronde en 2022, joue abondamment.

ici.radio-canada.ca

I had not read MAG’s colleague report on Habs’ management alledgedly regretting their pick already. Ouch.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Good that he is open to going back - some humbling can be good and get him back to being open about what he needs to improve.

If he has the right mindset, the chances of the pick succeeding go up. If he was going to remain unrealistic and entitled, he was never going to improve.

The stuff on Houle remains of the deepest concern and they need to remove him ASAP. It should have already been done.

 

[MXD]

Why is he ready to go back? To get away from Houle?

... Probably because he saw that the guy who is in his presumptive lineup spot in Kitchener has 16 points in 8 games.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

... Probably because he saw that the guy who is in his presumptive lineup spot in Kitchener has 16 points in 8 games.

Bombshell dosent wanna send him down because he's gonna put up 1ppg again me thinks

 

[Sterling Archer]

Can someone explain why Mesar was taken so high? He went ahead of some very high quality guys and I don't understand or see what they saw that made them jump on him.

 

[salbutera]

Can someone explain why Mesar was taken so high? He went ahead of some very high quality guys and I don't understand or see what they saw that made them jump on him.

Louis Leblanc syndrome, went where he was projected to go in the draft….18-year old projection crapshoot

Iirc, McKeens pre draft report said Mesar was a late first round candidate. He had a great run in the Slovak top tier league play-offs until his season ended early due to an injury.

They viewed him as a great skater, playmaker or shooter and a smart / effective player, calling him a high end forward prospect. Main weakness was his lack of physical play, mainly due to his playing style and size

 

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