Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[WeThreeKings]

 

[CHwest]

It is not what I want, it is what he is saying in interviews and on social media. His mindset is focused on AHL and he indicates he really did not like OHL.
Motivation and happiness is also a key component to better performance and development. In this case, I truly believe that starting 3RW in Laval would be the best for him. Let him prove it.

Maybe he can find his game in junior B, because he certainly didn't earn a bump from where he was.

 

[morhilane]

Mesar is going the way of Mysak...

 

[Skip Bayless]

If Beck was sent to junior, I don't think Mesar belongs in the AHL.

He should just go to the NLA if he hates junior hockey that much. Maybe learn how to block shots.

 

[Paddy17]

Why play a first-round draft pick with talent when you can play Stevens and all the other AHL guys?

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[montreal]

Why play a first-round draft pick with talent when you can play Stevens and all the other AHL guys?

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I don't know if this is a serious question or not.

 

[Gustave]

Why play a first-round draft pick with talent when you can play Stevens and all the other AHL guys?

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I get the point but is he able to play in the AHL? That will be answered in camp and start of the season.

 

[Egresch]

Maybe he can find his game in junior B, because he certainly didn't earn a bump from where he was.

With terrible coaching in Kitchener he still led the league in chances created per 60 mins.
I am not advocating him in AHL, I am just saying that is where HE wants to be. If he earns the spot, he should be there.

 

[Paddy17]

I don't know if this is a serious question or not.

It was sarcasm.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I like Mesar but let me get this straight aren't we asking hard WW2do or die questions in interviews and drafting highly humble , intelectual , hard working guys with CHARACTER? I mean that's in part why they drafted Slaf and rein no? (thats what they are telling us at least) I guess our psychologists didint sniff out that Mesar has issues playing in a junior league?

 

[Bombshell11]

If Beck was sent to junior, I don't think Mesar belongs in the AHL.

He should just go to the NLA if he hates junior hockey that much. Maybe learn how to block shots.

Your logic is very wrong and is deprived of any context. Contexts for both players are very different.
But i do feel he's lost a few brownie points with management. Something is telling me they don't value him as much.
Did he even play 1 pre-season game?

Regardless if Mesar can't make the AHL he should go play with men in europe and develop his strengh there.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Your logic is very wrong and is deprived of any context. Contexts for both players are very different.
But i do feel he's lost a few brownie points with management. Something is telling me they don't value him as much.
Did he even play 1 pre-season game?

Regardless if Mesar can't make the AHL he should go play with men in europe and develop his strengh there.

Both players are different and Mesar shouldn't make the AHL after one mediocre year of junior simply because he played pro in Slovakia, Beck is clearly closer to the NHL.

He needs to start blocking some shots or something.

 

[Bombshell11]

Both players are different and Mesar shouldn't make the AHL after one mediocre year of junior simply because he played pro in Slovakia, Beck is clearly closer to the NHL.

He needs to start blocking some shots or something.

i can't tell if you're trolling

 

[Ezpz]

I don't think Mesar would be well-served by playing in the AHL early. He's clearly physically underdeveloped and can't even take over junior games. Having a Martin Reway (who is ironically now playing on a team on the top line with other Habs future superstar Alexander Avtsin) camp doesn't negate that.

Mesar clearly isn't one of those guys who makes the NHL at 20 or 21, he's going to be more in the Plekanec route.

 

[Skip Bayless]

i can't tell if you're trolling

You have a Mesar avy and you wonder if I'm trolling.

I'm sorry buddy, I didn't mean that. Mesar is our best prospect. Best in the world.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I don't think Mesar would be well-served by playing in the AHL early. He's clearly physically underdeveloped and can't even take over junior games. Having a Martin Reway (who is ironically now playing on a team on the top line with other Habs future superstar Alexander Avtsin) camp doesn't negate that.

Mesar clearly isn't one of those guys who makes the NHL at 20 or 21, he's going to be more in the Plekanec route.

Mesar has a hard time accepting he wont make the NHL as quickly as his buddy Slaf because he's been getting the same star treatment in Slovakia as Slaf and Nemec.

Really tough on the ego. It's a test of maturity.

He either accepts his path or blocks shots for the next 13 years in Lugano.

 

[Egresch]

I like Mesar but let me get this straight aren't we asking hard WW2do or die questions in interviews and drafting highly humble , intelectual , hard working guys with CHARACTER? I mean that's in part why they drafted Slaf and rein no? (thats what they are telling us at least) I guess our psychologists didint sniff out that Mesar has issues playing in a junior league?

Old ladies in Kitchener say that Mešár was very nice and let them use the cash machine first
How can you not like this guy?

 

[Ezpz]

Mesar has a hard time accepting he wont make the NHL as quickly as his buddy Slaf because he's been getting the same star treatment in Slovakia as Slaf and Nemec.

Really tough on the ego. It's a test of maturity.

He either accepts his path or blocks shots for the next 13 years in Lugano.

The thing is a significant number of the list of guys tearing up the Slovakian league wouldn't even make the ECHL. Mesar was half a PPG there at 17 which is great, but not some predictor of future success. Nemec outproduced him fairly significantly. He may be on their level at the junior level, but not against men. He's got work to do.

 

[Bombshell11]

Mesar has a hard time accepting he wont make the NHL as quickly as his buddy Slaf because he's been getting the same star treatment in Slovakia as Slaf and Nemec.

Really tough on the ego. It's a test of maturity.

He either accepts his path or blocks shots for the next 13 years in Lugano.

Which games have you seen him play? Because you sound clueless and i mean this respectfully, blocking shots? like who you think Mesar is? Josh Gorges?
And why Lugano, out of all the places in the world? why Switzerland?

 

[Egresch]

The thing is a significant number of the list of guys tearing up the Slovakian league wouldn't even make the ECHL.

This is not true. In general, imports who dominate are PPG ECHL players. I cannot think of single player who tearing up Slovak league who would not make ECHL.

Mesar was half a PPG there at 17 which is great, but not some predictor of future success. Nemec outproduced him fairly significantly.

Mesar was 3rd liner, Nemec was D1 with a lot of PP time.

Otherwise, I agree he has a lot of work to do. I do not like his attitude, I guess AHL can be a good wake-up call for him when he realizes he needs to work much harder. Anyway, I would suggest to trade him as I do not see his future with Habs in NHL. He is very similar type to Newhook, Farrell, etc. team needs something different.

 

[Ezpz]

This is not true. In general, imports who dominate are PPG ECHL players. I cannot think of single player who tearing up Slovak league who would not make ECHL.

Mesar was 3rd liner, Nemec was D1 with a lot of PP time.

Otherwise, I agree he has a lot of work to do. I do not like his attitude, I guess AHL can be a good wake-up call for him when he realizes he needs to work much harder. Anyway, I would suggest to trade him as I do not see his future with Habs in NHL. He is very similar type to Newhook, Farrell, etc. team needs something different.

Alexander Avtsin would not tear up the ECHL and is a first liner point per game forward in the Slovak league. He was not even a 0.1 PPG player in the KHL. That's how low the Slovakian league is on the totem pole. Martin Reway struggled in the first Czech league, did well in the second Czech league, and is destroying the Slovak league. Our former signing Hayden Verbeek couldn't make our AHL team or ECHL team and lit up the Slovak league. The Slovak league is the absolute bottom of the totem pole for European major leagues, and most countries second tier league is higher than the first Slovak league.

 

[Bombshell11]

This is not true. In general, imports who dominate are PPG ECHL players. I cannot think of single player who tearing up Slovak league who would not make ECHL.

Mesar was 3rd liner, Nemec was D1 with a lot of PP time.

Otherwise, I agree he has a lot of work to do. I do not like his attitude, I guess AHL can be a good wake-up call for him when he realizes he needs to work much harder. Anyway, I would suggest to trade him as I do not see his future with Habs in NHL. He is very similar type to Newhook, Farrell, etc. team needs something different.

I really would love to see him play in some AHL games before ceiling his fate with the habs

 

[Miller Time]

I like Mesar but let me get this straight aren't we asking hard WW2do or die questions in interviews and drafting highly humble , intelectual , hard working guys with CHARACTER? I mean that's in part why they drafted Slaf and rein no? (thats what they are telling us at least) I guess our psychologists didint sniff out that Mesar has issues playing in a junior league?

I don't disagree.
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It's an additional, and not so easily predictable, variable of having an 18year old foreigner move to NA and get adapt to junior hockey life.

The cultural adjustment factor, on top of the shift back to a junior environment (from a pro one, and 2 yrs at that) could very easily knock an otherwise pretty solid kid off the rails a bit.

Up to him to make the most of this season and build his game up to translate his obvious skill to NHL-caliber play... but I wouldn't hold it against him at all, nor be worried, if he declined going back to the OHL and instead wanted to go back to Europe if the Habs don't make room for him in Laval.

Interesting case, hopefully he finds the right frame of mind to make the progress he needs, wherever that May be

 

[Egresch]

Alexander Avtsin would not tear up the ECHL and is a first liner point per game forward in the Slovak league. He was not even a 0.1 PPG player in the KHL. That's how low the Slovakian league is on the totem pole. Martin Reway struggled in the first Czech league, did well in the second Czech league, and is destroying the Slovak league. Our former signing Hayden Verbeek couldn't make our AHL team or ECHL team and lit up the Slovak league. The Slovak league is the absolute bottom of the totem pole for European major leagues, and most countries second tier league is higher than the first Slovak league.

Reway is struggling with addictions and mental health. When he is OK, he can dominate. Verbeek had 0,84 ppg in ECHL, 0,73 ppg in Slovak league. Avtsin never played ECHL, yet you claim that dominant player from SVK would not even make ECHL team. That is just stupid, admit it.

 

[WinterLion]

Mesar is going the way of Mysak...

That's good. Mysak looked WAY better at this years camp.