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Prospect Info: Filip Chytil (Pick #21 2017)

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Watched Chytil in one of the Czech-Finland games. I like him, very good pick with a lot of potential. Finland are always hard to play against, and with the lead they mostly backed down pretty deep and took away most of the ice.

Chytil is a good skater with that little extra drive straight ahead who got a good amount of offense in him. I do think he is pretty raw, and definitely not really close to the NHL. Think ETA in 3-5 years is more realistic than 1-2. If I for example compare him to Adrian Kempe and Filip Forsberg, who I think are players in the same cathegory as Chytil, and where they were their -- last -- U20 eligible year, ie one year before making it in the NHL, he is definitely pretty far behind them overall. But Chytil is 17 y/o, in all honestly if he was ready in October he would be the biggest "early" 1st round steal ever almost... ;)

The pluses for me is definitely his skating and physic. He plays a good hockey game with a bit of an overdrive gear that enables him to make that play that gets him a top scoring chance here and there. The only negative is that maybe he doesn't solve all situations perfectly, which kind of is a result of his team, the Czech Rep, not doing it either. Sweden have kicked the Czechs rears in hockey the last handful of years, why? I think the answer is right there, the Czech program hasn't kept up. They have lost the top kids to NA and lost the know how back home. No 22 for the Czech caught my eye, righty with a cage. I though, probably an 18 eligible, gone check up who it is and post about him in he prospect thread because he should be 1st round material next summer. As the game wore on I wasn't extremely high on him, he wasn't very well schooled. Then I checked him up and it was Necas, what 12th overall this summer and the best prospect the Czech have had in a while (in terms of drafting position). And this is one of the better Czech rosters I've seen in a while. My point is just, that program is still a little behind.

I think Chytil should stay another season in the Czech Republic. If KM is good in HFD, maybe it should be an option next summer?
 
cwede said:
its neither.
he means begin playing NA pro on his ELC
you guys, and regulars here, understand that, and to casual fans it doesnt matter

you are gonna split hairs on his wording here, where posters use there, their or they're as the same word?

but boy it really is fun to post snarky superior comments
i don't think its Brooks who is being condescending here
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Please explain in what way am I condescending?

I usually give Brooks a benefit of a doubt understanding what he represents (or represented) in terms of being a FO mouthpiece in certain situations. I typically don't post in topics around his stands or statements on various issues (and he's pretty outspoken).

All of us here are well aware of situations that Brooks had gotten himself over the years with his posts (articles, tweets etc). There are plenty of unflattering adjectives that would be completely appropriate to describe him. Ignorant and condescending would make that list for sure.

In this case there was no need to add a reference in a sentence about "turning pro" to convey his idea. It was completely clear without it. Hockey players in Europe are able to make their living by playing hockey back home (same as news reporters, btw). It's not just a hobby for fun. Maybe as someone born and raised U.S. American it didn't bother you but being someone who still feel connected to my roots over there before coming over from the other side of the pond it did bother me when I read it. Apparently it bothered AK as well.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
I'm not bothered by it, but it seems sloppy.
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It bothers me because guys like Larry Brooks just make it up as they go along. "Turning pro" makes sense for a kid currently playing either junior hockey or college hockey in NA.

On average, a team in the Extraliga pays 6-10 million a year in salary to their players. The notion that Chytil would be "turning pro" is just stupid. Larry Brooks is a relic from another era. The human typewriter. His opinion pieces are fluff, his "suggestions" too often match what is found on message boards and blogs days before, and he is wrong more often than not when he is using his "sources". His buddy Brett saying we can now protect Raanta in the expansion draft because Fast is injured was just mind-numbingly stupid. These are guys who get paid to write these articles. Not just some fans who do it for free because they love to.

Larry Brooks and Brett Cyrgalis, on top of that, can't even write a decent article. Starting 3 paragraphs in a row with "However," is just lazy writing.

How the NYP is still paying these two is beyond me.
 
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Its true that its sloppy, the origin of the word goes from not getting paid to getting paid.

But in a sense the meaning of the word has also transformed, the leagues in North America are not non-profits like the leagues in Europe. In Europe, all money of the leagues goes back to the organizations that in its turn in most countries are non-profits (there are exceptions with listed teams in Soccer at least). Hence, nowadays in Sweden for example its the -- leagues -- that are referred to as "professional" leagues.

I think I used the term turn pro in reference to a European just the other day without thinking about it. In Swedish, its used all the time. TV can still ask the question if "professionals" from the NHL will come to the World Championships for example.

Larry Brooks is definitely top 5 of all journalists covering this league in terms of value for the fans. Without him there would be nobody questioning anything.
 
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Ola said:
No 22 for the Czech caught my eye, righty with a cage. I though, probably an 18 eligible, gone check up who it is and post about him in he prospect thread because he should be 1st round material next summer. As the game wore on I wasn't extremely high on him, he wasn't very well schooled. Then I checked him up and it was Necas, what 12th overall this summer and the best prospect the Czech have had in a while (in terms of drafting position). And this is one of the better Czech rosters I've seen in a while. My point is just, that program is still a little behind.
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Necas was injured and missed both games against Finland. No 22 was Reichel AFAIK (son of former NHLer Robert Reichel)
 
Filip Chytil, the Rangers' other 2017 first-rounder, is expected to represent the Czech Republic at the WJC, though the country is not taking part in the Summer Showcase.

Rangers European Scout Jan Gajdosik watched Chytil several times over the past few weeks, including this week when the Czechs faced Finland in two exhibition games, in which Chytil scored in each contest. He spoke with NYRangers.com via email about what he saw from the 17-year-old during this stretch, as well as his assessment of his play at the team's development camp last month.

NYR: What is your overall assessment of how Filip has played in the games during the last few weeks?

JG: Filip had a tremendous start to the new season playing against Switzerland U20 and Finland U20. In every game [he played four total] he was the best player on the ice or at least among the best players. He played with lots of confidence, showed very good hockey sense and skating. It was a pleasure to see him dominate.

NYR: How has Filip handled playing against the best players in his age group (or slightly older) in the past?

JG: He's shown terrific progress in his game in the last 12 months. He always handled the games with confidence, paid attention to details of the game, showed very good game understanding and speed. Recently, he scored twice and added a pair of assists in four games these last two weeks.

NYR: How has played against men helped Filip's development? Has he had to make any adjustments in playing against older players?

JG: When he started in the men's league, he had to learn how to play defense and use his body more, but he adjusted very quickly and after a few weeks, he became a solid two-way player in the Czech Elite League. He is the type of player who adjusts quickly and gets to a higher level when he plays with more experienced players. He adjusts quickly to a better level of hockey.
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https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/ra...ld-junior-lias-andersson-sean-day/c-290528570
 
Ola said:
Watched Chytil in one of the Czech-Finland games. I like him, very good pick with a lot of potential. Finland are always hard to play against, and with the lead they mostly backed down pretty deep and took away most of the ice.

Chytil is a good skater with that little extra drive straight ahead who got a good amount of offense in him. I do think he is pretty raw, and definitely not really close to the NHL. Think ETA in 3-5 years is more realistic than 1-2. If I for example compare him to Adrian Kempe and Filip Forsberg, who I think are players in the same cathegory as Chytil, and where they were their -- last -- U20 eligible year, ie one year before making it in the NHL, he is definitely pretty far behind them overall. But Chytil is 17 y/o, in all honestly if he was ready in October he would be the biggest "early" 1st round steal ever almost... ;)

The pluses for me is definitely his skating and physic. He plays a good hockey game with a bit of an overdrive gear that enables him to make that play that gets him a top scoring chance here and there. The only negative is that maybe he doesn't solve all situations perfectly, which kind of is a result of his team, the Czech Rep, not doing it either. Sweden have kicked the Czechs rears in hockey the last handful of years, why? I think the answer is right there, the Czech program hasn't kept up. They have lost the top kids to NA and lost the know how back home. No 22 for the Czech caught my eye, righty with a cage. I though, probably an 18 eligible, gone check up who it is and post about him in he prospect thread because he should be 1st round material next summer. As the game wore on I wasn't extremely high on him, he wasn't very well schooled. Then I checked him up and it was Necas, what 12th overall this summer and the best prospect the Czech have had in a while (in terms of drafting position). And this is one of the better Czech rosters I've seen in a while. My point is just, that program is still a little behind.

I think Chytil should stay another season in the Czech Republic. If KM is good in HFD, maybe it should be an option next summer?
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Great insight, and good call on a path for the kid.

If Czech is that bad, see if he can figure out how to dominate that level of play and if he is smart enough to exploit any competitor weaknesses. If he does, and it is apparent he isn't going to get any more out of that league/coaching, and/or Hartford can turn around their mess, then get him there next year.

I don't have much faith in North Bay as an alternative at any point in Chytil's development. They never seem to ice good depth, or produce outstanding talent even back to their days in Brampton. The ownership reminds me of the Islanders, just ride one talented kid into the ground and show no interest in helping their players develop to their best. Wolski wasn't anything special and I bet Duchene would be the player he should be, instead of the player he is, if he were on another team in those years of his career.
 
x BEUKEBOOM x said:
Great insight, and good call on a path for the kid.

If Czech is that bad, see if he can figure out how to dominate that level of play and if he is smart enough to exploit any competitor weaknesses. If he does, and it is apparent he isn't going to get any more out of that league/coaching, and/or Hartford can turn around their mess, then get him there next year.

I don't have much faith in North Bay as an alternative at any point in Chytil's development. They never seem to ice good depth, or produce outstanding talent even back to their days in Brampton. The ownership reminds me of the Islanders, just ride one talented kid into the ground and show no interest in helping their players develop to their best. Wolski wasn't anything special and I bet Duchene would be the player he should be, instead of the player he is, if he were on another team in those years of his career.
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Yeah, and it's not necessarily that the Czech is bad, it's the Swedish and US programs that are really really high quality and Canada of course always has the resources to deliver players.

I am not involved in hockey in Sweden on a day-to-day basis, but when I stop by I rink I am just really really impressed with how good the kids are. And when it comes to the junior national teams, they just are so smart. The US program just develops elite players too. Canada struggle right now because due to the sheer size of their program, pro junior leagues etc, it's hard to manage if (Renney is in charge, he can't just say OK now everyone should do this. Who is everyone? Ex NHLers who coach a junior team? Many would tell him to mind his own business. In the US and Sweden, it's easier to make changes)). But kids still do a heck of a job on their own in Canada and they are always the best in terms of quantity.

Anyway, I got a little off track, just saying that with the Czech you don't really have that high caliber play. People crap on AV for not liking kids, but he wasn't slow to get Fast and OL into the lineups. They where were he requires a player to be in terms of understanding the game, and especially when it comes to being able of managing the play and make decisions for the entire unit every time they get the puck. In modern hockey, you want all players to be able to be sort of a QB when they get the puck. To always think in terms of if they should go forward, go back again and recoup, find a simple solution if pressured. And so forth. A Swedish kid will most likely be really smart as his. Modern. Many US kids too. And so forth. I think it's in this area he Czech program is a little behind. They just don't solve these situations as well as Sweden right now, quite noticeable difference.

And I also think this was a big weakness we had in the AHL. They played a pretty stone age style of hockey down there. And it noticed so much when a kid like Hrivik got his shot in the NHL after playing a long time under Kenny G. There was zero thought process in his game. You need to manage the puck. Ds like Hunwick and the likes get a shot over the more physical players because they got more between the ears. OL, Fast and the likes do really well in the NHL while guys like Virtanen, Lazar and the likes struggle in the AHL.

So it's a really important part of the game. But don't misunderstand me, playing in the Czech rep is probably really perfect for Chytil from so many perspectives. It's a good league. He gets a big role.
 
How he will be present at the camp, co-decidedly about his nearest future. "I want to play for the Rangers as soon as possible, either this or the next season," Chytil wishes to sign a newcomer contract with the riders.

On his first visit to New York City, he had a short tour of the city, but he was most interested in excursions to the mound of the legendary Madison Square Garden: "We looked through the entire stadium, the cabin. They wanted to motivate us to get there. "

If this year does not hit the first team, the Rangers can send him to his farm in AHL or leave in the Czech Extraly. Junior OHL is the least likely option.

"We had a lot of meetings to discuss where I wanted to play where they would send me. I do not care now. I joined the preparation last week. The team is a great mood and a great team, "it does not even offer a Zlín variant.
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http://hokej.idnes.cz/filip-chytil-...zhovor-fm8-/nhl.aspx?c=A170812_344892_nhl_ten
 
Chytil wants to play one more season in the Czech Republic and play in the AHL or NHL next season. Hertl played in the NHL as a 19 year old. Pasternak split his first year pro between the Bruins and Providence as an 18 year old. Chytil will be in Traverse City. He will get the opportunity to show what he can do.
 
Filip Chytil was a no show on Monday morning as the North Bay Battalion get prepared to start their fifth season in North Bay.

The Battalion 7th overall CHL import and New York Rangers first round draft pick this summer has been a big part of the off season conversation between Battalion fans. Chytil will be coming to North America to play in an NHL Prospects Tournament with Rangers prospects for the event which begins next week in Traverse City, Michigan.

“After that, he will be going to New York City and play some exhibition games with the Rangers, said Stan Butler, Battalion head coach and director of hockey operations.

“I think we will have a better indication on him by October 1st once he has played some games with the Rangers. I think you have to realize it is a little different situation when you are a first round NHL pick, those kids, their focus right now is to try to make the NHL at 18, it’s not their junior team or wherever else they want to play. I feel pretty good if it does not work out in New York that we will be a very viable option.â€

Aside from making the big club, his options are to play in the AHL, go back to play professionally in the Czech Republic, of the most popular choice for Battalion fans, to have him play Major Junior hockey in North Bay this fall.
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https://www.baytoday.ca/sports/no-chytil-no-problem-for-troops-as-they-open-main-camp-705363

The players report for Traverse City on September 5.

Next Tuesday.
 
He should stay in the Czech Republic this year. Play top 6 minutes against men. He'll get lazy in the CHL. He'll be bigger than 90% of the kids in the league and use his 6'2" 200 lb frame to muscle everyone off of the puck rather than develop his 200 foot game.

Come to training camp in 2018, maybe get the 9 game NHL cup of coffee, and play in the AHL or go back to the Czech League for one more year. ETA full time for the 2019-20 season.
 
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