Prospect Info: Filip Chytil (Pick #21 2017)
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They weren't good last season but with a new infusion of players from the junior draft and kids progressing at different rates, it's kind of hard to judge how a team's success, or lack thereof, will translate from season to season. Unless there's an elite talent on a team who tears up the league.
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which is why i said id rather him play in Sweden. But if he cant...then..i'll take what i can take.
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Milan Michalek is a great comparable to Chytil and came directly from Czech league.
Zacha got his start as a teenager in the Czech league before going to CJs.
A good point though is that many players play a season or two in Czech at age 16-17. Not many stay to 18-19-20. That Nedved, Rucinsky and Straka were PPG players in the Czech league in their mid 40's suggests that the AHL would probably be a better option.
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All depends on the Program. I'd like to see him in the OHL for a year.
The Battion haven't been the same since leaving Brampton but they're going to give him prime minutes every night. He'll get more games.
Last year he jumped up the ranks after the U18s.
Dominated his peers when it came to a two way game.
Not much to be said about his chances in the Czech league since its been a while they pushed out a prime NHLer that didn't go through juniors.
Smaller ice, language, culture shock etc. Get that out of the way early.
Rangers made a mistake imo with Kovacs last year where he was overmatched on a bad supporting cast but they can't afford to do the same this year.
The Battion haven't been the same since leaving Brampton but they're going to give him prime minutes every night. He'll get more games.
Last year he jumped up the ranks after the U18s.
Dominated his peers when it came to a two way game.
Not much to be said about his chances in the Czech league since its been a while they pushed out a prime NHLer that didn't go through juniors.
Smaller ice, language, culture shock etc. Get that out of the way early.
Rangers made a mistake imo with Kovacs last year where he was overmatched on a bad supporting cast but they can't afford to do the same this year.
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Not a Rangers fan and certainly not a Battalion fan (absolute despise North Bay), but this is an interesting discussion.
You say "Depending on the program..." I think people have come to false conclusions or have been falsely informed about what, if any impact which specific CHL team you play for there is on development.
The only evidence I need is that of my team, the Sudbury Wolves. Sudbury has by point total, been the worst team in the entire CHL over the past 17 years. We haven't been higher than a 5 seed, nor have we had home-ice advantage in a playoff series since 2001. That is incredibly terrible, like VERY sorry.
Despite this, at the start of 2015-16 the Wolves had more alumni in the NHL than any other junior team. I believe we had 2 or 3 more than London. I think this is proof that junior hockey is junior hockey. It doesn't matter which junior team you play for, at the end of the day its the competition you play against, not the team you play with. There's so much movement turnover on junior teams anyway that you're never really building any serious chemistry.
PS, even though I hate North Bay, I'd love to see Chytil on the Battalion just to be able to watch him several times (North Bay plays Sudbury 8 times a year).
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Yeah but what are the quality of those players? I can name like two and it's Staal and Mike Fisher
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Marc Staal, Mike Fischer, Derek MacKenzie, Nick Foligno, Marcus Foligno, Adam McQuaid, Mike Smith, Benoit Pouliot, then some less notable guys like Leivo, Sgarbossa, Baptiste, Corrado.
That's a better crop than like what 90% of the CHL has produced.
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I'll look more into that, but at face value I don't believe you. I just glanced at London, and they blow the tires off Sudbury. A lot more high quality players coming out of that program, even excluding their top guys like Kane and Nash.
Regardless, I'm not crazy about Chytil going to North Bay. I'd rather give him a brief NHL cup of coffee and then let him go back to Extraliga or down to Hartford
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Oh Im not an idiot lol...by no means am I coming here to deny that London has much better alumni. But other than Bo Horvat, i cant really think of anyone that wasnt already a highly toughted future NHLer before they got to London.
Its not really a matter of London v Sudbury either...im just saying that Sudbury is literally the bane of the "it matters which program you play for" argument.
Other 'unattractive' isolated teams such as Sault Ste Marie, Val D'or, Rouyn Noranda, and Brandon have better alumni classes than most CHL teams too.
Anyway, i respect the argument of whether or not Chytil should be in the O, A, or Czech league, I just dont think North Bay should matter in the argument for or against junior.
Pavel Buchnevich
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We don't need a first round pick playing in a junior league. No thanks.
If its CHL or AHL, I think it should be AHL.
If its CHL or AHL, I think it should be AHL.
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it didn't go high, nor wide, which is what our guys tend to do. therefore, it's a snipe.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Chytil's done nothing but impress since being drafted. If this continues all the way into camp, maybe he has a shot at making the team.
Pastrnak was a skilled Czech winger picked 25th who made the NHL his first season, Chytil was picked 21st.
Pastrnak was a skilled Czech winger picked 25th who made the NHL his first season, Chytil was picked 21st.
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Pastrnak is
1. A few months older (at that time)
2. Weighs 20 pounds more
3. Was called up to a team that had poor forward depth
4. Called up to a team that did not make the playoffs that year
5. Had 28 points in 25 AHL games to start that year
It isn't impossible, but there are very big differences.
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Good, mature players will flourish regardless of the junior team. North Bay is a defensive-minded team. If Chytil plays there, he'll get top line mins and be used in all situations. And he'll do so as an 18-year-old. It's not a toxic organization. He likely wont put up gaudy numbers, but what's important is adapting to North American culture and the smaller rink.
Keep in mind that since there's an import limit, there's always a chance he gets traded.
I'm not worried about him. No need to rush him. He's a very smart player and he'll suceed, develop properly regardless of where he plays.
I just wouldn't rush him or Andersson. Neither are NHL ready IMO. Maybe next year. Certainly not for this season. Both need to improve in several areas.
Keep in mind that since there's an import limit, there's always a chance he gets traded.
I'm not worried about him. No need to rush him. He's a very smart player and he'll suceed, develop properly regardless of where he plays.
I just wouldn't rush him or Andersson. Neither are NHL ready IMO. Maybe next year. Certainly not for this season. Both need to improve in several areas.
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