DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
He seems to excel with Vesey, just need to get him a RW who can play a little bit. No complaints about Fil though he's turned into a very nice player.
Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II
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Raspewtin
Stay at home defenseman hater
- May 30, 2013
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he finally got an elite linemate
McRanger92
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He's already a good player and if he ever figures out his defensive game and uses his shot more, we have a Zibanejad clone on our hands
most people pegged him a 2nd rounder so I guess gotta give some credit to the Rangers for grabbing him when they did (as compared to the horrendous Lias pick). He has turned into a good player and obviously has more room to reach his ceiling.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I don't know if he will ever be a Zibanejad clone, Fil is not as adept at handling pucks and doesn't have the one timer like Zibanejad. He's his own unique player. Really good snapper and backhander when he can get it off, puck carrying in transition and has the ability to grind when playing with those types of players. Don't think he will ever be a great distributor but that's ok.
Mac n Gs
Drury plz
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Sickest linemate in the league
I'm not sure how long Kreider is projected to be out for, but I do think it'd be worth going back to the Panarin-Chytil-Kravtsov line and having Trocheck be a matchup C. Should help balance things a bit until Kreider is back
tlk
hARry kane comeS homE
Ladies and gentlemen, I officially think we can say Chytil has developed into what his potential suggested. And we finally have a homegrown success story up front for the first time in awhile. Just needs to stay healthy. Hasn't missed a beat from the playoffs. Really happy with his play. He is our 2nd line center now. Always knew he could get there. Makes the Trochek signing even more redundant.
Also important to note. He brings out the best in Kakko and Laf. There are no puck divas on that line. Just the kids making it happen night after night.
Also important to note. He brings out the best in Kakko and Laf. There are no puck divas on that line. Just the kids making it happen night after night.
smoneil
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Some Chytilian food for thought:
Chytil has played:
-5 minutes less per game and 5 fewer games altogether (6 if you count the one where he got hurt 11 seconds in) than Chris Kreider. But Chytil has just 2 fewer points than Kreider (and he has 4 more ES points than Kreider).
-6 minutes less per game and 8 fewer games than Trocheck (again, 9 if you count the 11 second game). Yet Chytil has just 4 fewer points than Trocheck (and Chytil has 5 more ES points than Trocheck).
-Mika Zibanejad only has 4 more ES points than Chytil, despite playing 8 more games and nearly 7 minutes more per game.
Chytil is forcing the issue. They need to start finding ways to get him on the ice more, whether that's with PK rotations or some other way. I like a lot of what Trocheck brings, but Chytil IS the second best center on this team, and it isn't particularly close.
Chytil has played:
-5 minutes less per game and 5 fewer games altogether (6 if you count the one where he got hurt 11 seconds in) than Chris Kreider. But Chytil has just 2 fewer points than Kreider (and he has 4 more ES points than Kreider).
-6 minutes less per game and 8 fewer games than Trocheck (again, 9 if you count the 11 second game). Yet Chytil has just 4 fewer points than Trocheck (and Chytil has 5 more ES points than Trocheck).
-Mika Zibanejad only has 4 more ES points than Chytil, despite playing 8 more games and nearly 7 minutes more per game.
Chytil is forcing the issue. They need to start finding ways to get him on the ice more, whether that's with PK rotations or some other way. I like a lot of what Trocheck brings, but Chytil IS the second best center on this team, and it isn't particularly close.
If you are going to compare even strength production, you need to use even strength minutes, not total minutes. It’s still a great story for Chytil.
SA16
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smoneil
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I compared both total and ES production, but you have a point. I didn't have ES TOI numbers handy and was just doing a quick look over the numbers on ESPN. Frankly, while the numbers are great, they don't even tell the full story. Even the Chytil from late last season wouldn't have had the stones to go for that face-off goal, and his play in general (in both zones) has been so much more assertive this year.
Chytil gives me hope for Laf and Kakko. Them being a 1stOA and 2ndOA gets them more heat and criticism, and put on a bigger spot light. A lot of players take to 23-25 yo to break out. We gotta be patient with our other kids.
That kids line looking dangerous and outplayed the other lines by a mile last night.
That kids line looking dangerous and outplayed the other lines by a mile last night.
ElLeetch
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I was fantasizing the other day we traded the 7thOA to Dallas for the 26th and 39th, and walked away from the draft with Chytil, Ottinger, and Jason Robertson.
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DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
One of the world's greatest mysteries. A once in a lifetime phenomenon.
He's been excellent and it's been fun to watch.
He's barely 2 years older.
will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
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In yet what might be another exhibit in the courtroom argument that this organization doesn't know how to develop forwards is management just didn't trust Chytil to be a 2C, which he legitimately is becoming. They didn't have to replace Strome. They instead should have pocketed that money and promoted Fil.
He plays more poised than some so-called leaders on the team. His shot is better than most on the team. He is unafraid to go to the middle of the ice, which is lacking among like 80% of the team -- and despite the consequences he already has faced a couple of times for doing so.
I was among the first few people here to notice the subtle growth changes in him way back in 2020. He quit trying to dangle around people, started going in straight lines, and started shooting off the pass right away. I referred to him as a wind-up toy on the ice. Not a lot of brains, but wind him up and just let him go up and down the ice. But now, we're seeing that he's also thinking situations, like on the faceoff goal.
He plays more poised than some so-called leaders on the team. His shot is better than most on the team. He is unafraid to go to the middle of the ice, which is lacking among like 80% of the team -- and despite the consequences he already has faced a couple of times for doing so.
I was among the first few people here to notice the subtle growth changes in him way back in 2020. He quit trying to dangle around people, started going in straight lines, and started shooting off the pass right away. I referred to him as a wind-up toy on the ice. Not a lot of brains, but wind him up and just let him go up and down the ice. But now, we're seeing that he's also thinking situations, like on the faceoff goal.
TopShelfSnipes
Snipes Like Tarasenkoooo
Also "well" is a relative mark to use.
What's not to say Chytil would be at or very near a point-per-game if he was seeing usage like 93 or 16 on the PP?
(Note - not advocating for him to replace 93)
Fil has been awesome this season, but what's not to say he's quietly producing at a 75-point pace, but tracking for 50-60 because of usage? It's still a breakout season, but harder to forecast a player's ceiling based on limited minutes when the aggregate totals are such marked improvement from the year before.
I'd argue Fil has been our most consistent forward this season at ES.
Raspewtin
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he's also faster and more physical than 80% of the team lol
reverse hits on the boards, crosschecks, shoves, driving the net. frankly Chytil is a great hockey player for his skill set
Tbf I think it would’ve been borderline insane going into this season with the C depth being Zib-Fil-Goodrow.
Putting too much faith in kids taking next steps has backfired on us like every year in the past 3.
Putting too much faith in kids taking next steps has backfired on us like every year in the past 3.
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This was supposed to be a rebuild and instead we traded away a 1st, nils, pionk, a ppg young rw I'm buch, a 2nd and ate about 25-40 m in cap space (edit l. I forgot all that we traded away for last years run too) to ensure none of our youth could takeover key roles w the team until they're 25-28 years old.
We never put faith in them once during a rebuild. It's insane
Well…sure.
But the rebuild died on 7/1/2019 so it’s probably not even worth discussing at this point.
Were still suffering through it so of course it's worth discussing. Shit you just did by saying we kept putting our faith in them in the past
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3 ye-...waitaminute wtf. How u gonna say this but when I bring up stuff from the last 3-4 seasons, including this and last offseason, you tell me it's in the past.
Fil’s strengths are multi dimensional.
He can lead a rush, he can dart into a tight space and get a shot off quickly, he can win a battle along the walls and make something happen from there.
Frankly, he’s just a really good player. If he had better vision he’d be a less infuriating version of JT Miller.
He can lead a rush, he can dart into a tight space and get a shot off quickly, he can win a battle along the walls and make something happen from there.
Frankly, he’s just a really good player. If he had better vision he’d be a less infuriating version of JT Miller.
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