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The silver lining to any rustled Jimmie’s here, is that we are almost guaranteed to never see Anthanasiou force fed minutes in a Kings uniform again.
Kings News: Fiala to for 2022 first-round pick and Brock Faber
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Raccoon Jesus
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I'll believe it when I see it, until I expect Fiala-Kopitar-Athanasiou and Kaliyev on the bench
Raccoon Jesus
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You guys will enjoy Fiala. Dynamic player who drives 5v5 play and makes everyone else around him better. Always noticeable on the ice, constantly trying to make plays. His point totals last season aren’t a fluke, he’s a legitimate star who will single-handedly win you some games. I’d expect 75-85 points coming from him the next 4-5 years barring major injury. He plays a smart, skilled game and doesn’t overly-rely on his speed which makes me think he’ll put up points into his late 20s early 30s.
Only downsides to his game: he can be streaky & goes several games without points. Then he’ll completely dominate and score in bunches. He does have a temper and can take stupid penalties, but he also tends to play harder when he’s mad, so… catch 22. Plays a physical game despite his size, so he could become susceptible to injury at some point in his career. He plays a very offensively-focused game and isn’t afraid to take risks; he’ll dangle through the neutral zone despite being double teamed vs make a safe pass. Sometimes his risks work and he’ll create a scoring chance for himself, other times he’ll cough up the puck and lose possession.
Only downsides to his game: he can be streaky & goes several games without points. Then he’ll completely dominate and score in bunches. He does have a temper and can take stupid penalties, but he also tends to play harder when he’s mad, so… catch 22. Plays a physical game despite his size, so he could become susceptible to injury at some point in his career. He plays a very offensively-focused game and isn’t afraid to take risks; he’ll dangle through the neutral zone despite being double teamed vs make a safe pass. Sometimes his risks work and he’ll create a scoring chance for himself, other times he’ll cough up the puck and lose possession.
Peter James Bond II
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Sick hands. And does not show many of the plays he makes. 52 assists were 30th in the NHL and 4 more than Kopi had.
His backhand shot is elite and ability to go top shelf is elite. Pretty deceptive, all around. People wonder if he regresses to his numbers from a few years ago...yet I say: at 25, he may actually just be hitting his stride and 100 pts may be in the future. Who peaks at 25? Especially elite types. They typically get better, from 25 to 28.
His backhand shot is elite and ability to go top shelf is elite. Pretty deceptive, all around. People wonder if he regresses to his numbers from a few years ago...yet I say: at 25, he may actually just be hitting his stride and 100 pts may be in the future. Who peaks at 25? Especially elite types. They typically get better, from 25 to 28.
kingsfan28
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The former is much more likely than the latter. We shot most of our wad getting Fiala. No way Blake trades 2 more 1st , plus+++ to get him.
The Butcher
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I didn't really like his hit against Roy.
Other than that it seems like he's going to add some scoring depth and possibly beef up the power play so I'm pretty excited to see what he can do for the Kings.
Other than that it seems like he's going to add some scoring depth and possibly beef up the power play so I'm pretty excited to see what he can do for the Kings.
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Peter James Bond II
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I thought about going to the Dodgers - Rockies game here in Denver tonight,...but passed on it...then find out the AVS went on the field before the game with Lord Stanley. Now wishing I would have went!
I look forward to the press conference tomorrow? or at least the Blake interview. I think they put 25 on Fiala for the press stuff, but probably have already told him 22 is his and that AA will not be here. Know full well he would want 22 and asked about that, at negotiations and Rob probably told him "wait on this a bit..." like it will be his. NO WAY they now sign AA or Maata
I look forward to the press conference tomorrow? or at least the Blake interview. I think they put 25 on Fiala for the press stuff, but probably have already told him 22 is his and that AA will not be here. Know full well he would want 22 and asked about that, at negotiations and Rob probably told him "wait on this a bit..." like it will be his. NO WAY they now sign AA or Maata
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I try not to make predictions about my employers for a number of different reasons but I will be STUNNNNNNNNNNNED if Lizotte is moved.
bland
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Clearly Pete Jensen has never seen oil and water try to mix.
I love how you insist on highlighting all the F's on your report card.
King'sPawn
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It's very telling the number of people who look at any critique as:
"Go be a Ducks fan"
"Same people who want to be miserable"
etc.
I appreciate those who have responded and engaged in honest discussion, even if you disagree. I get why you are excited. In other circumstances, I'd be excited, too. But right now, I am not. A handful of others are not excited now either. For reasons already discussed.
If you cannot handle that, where you question the fandom, knowledge, or intentions of people who disagree with you despite consistent stances presented historically, piss right the hell off.
Barring anything else particularly illuminating, I'll probably bow out and just read the thread. So enjoy your celebrating.
"Go be a Ducks fan"
"Same people who want to be miserable"
etc.
I appreciate those who have responded and engaged in honest discussion, even if you disagree. I get why you are excited. In other circumstances, I'd be excited, too. But right now, I am not. A handful of others are not excited now either. For reasons already discussed.
If you cannot handle that, where you question the fandom, knowledge, or intentions of people who disagree with you despite consistent stances presented historically, piss right the hell off.
Barring anything else particularly illuminating, I'll probably bow out and just read the thread. So enjoy your celebrating.
bland
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Actually its worse.
All the suffering of delaying then begrudgingly attempting the rebuild is thrown out the window.
Imagine being Kaliyev, now knowing there is little chance at top 6 minutes for years to come.
Imagine being Turcotte, seeing Boldy, Hughes, Zegras and Caufield getting actual top 6 responsibility while being paid 15 times the Target Assistant GM level paycheck you are drawing - and are guarateed to draw again next year - behind TJ Tynan on the 2nd unit.
Imagine being Vilardi and JAD knowing there is literally nowhere for you to play now that you are out of options and just waiting to find out where you are being traded to start proving yourself all over again.
Imagine being Byfield, sitting watching both the Kings and Reign lose winnable series without you, knowing the next mistake will cost you another game or two.
How are these kids supposed to develop the confidence to improve knowing what's in front of them - on a mediocre team? Its not like they are being boxed out of a contender, this is still a 50/50 playoff squad with Fiala.
Kopitar has never played well with a puck carrying winger. Forget about on paper stat stuff, look at the styles of play and see if they match. Anze doesn't do anything offensively away from the puck, and Fiala always dominates it. Its not a complimentary set up. Might help Kempe, though.
Its indicative of the belief that Kopitar, Doughty and Quick are the better bet to succeed instead of grooming high end prospects. Completely disagree with that on principal. Its the wrong bet to take, and its out of hubris and hope, not intelligence. Its just going to limit the high end potential while increasing the likliehood of mediocrity - with the bottom falling out once Kopitar falls off the cliff.
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Axl Rhoadz
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Jesus dude, do you need a hug or something?
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I like this trade for a few reasons. First, I just don't have a lot of faith in our drafting/development so I would be a bit worried about whoever we drafted at 19 making an impact. Second, the rumors around Faber wanting to stay in Minnesota was too risky, the Kings needed value soon. Lastly, I do appreciate that Fiala is a bit closer to our prospects in age.
Since Blake appears committed to going in, I hope there is another move to be made. With veteran players in Arrvy, Danault, Fiala, Kempe, and Kopitar there is not going to be much room in the top 6 for a lot of our prospects. We should be heavy in on a top pair LHD and be willing to move almost anyone from the pool to acquire one. A lot is going to being riding on Byfield living up to his hype, because there is nobody else on the team that has a chance to replace Kopitar's production from the dot. If he doesn't work out, the Kings will be relying on an aging Danault to be the number 1 center and I can't see us being a contender with that.
Since Blake appears committed to going in, I hope there is another move to be made. With veteran players in Arrvy, Danault, Fiala, Kempe, and Kopitar there is not going to be much room in the top 6 for a lot of our prospects. We should be heavy in on a top pair LHD and be willing to move almost anyone from the pool to acquire one. A lot is going to being riding on Byfield living up to his hype, because there is nobody else on the team that has a chance to replace Kopitar's production from the dot. If he doesn't work out, the Kings will be relying on an aging Danault to be the number 1 center and I can't see us being a contender with that.
Agree to some extent but they still havent traded the big draft picks. Maybe they expect Kaliyev to break out when Arvidssons contract is up? Maybe Kupari is a long term bottom six winger?
Bringing back Lizotte and Grundstrom probably means JAD Andersson and Vilardi all ran out of time and have lost a spot unless they are 13th/14th forwards to start the year.
I dont know what they will do with Turcotte. Maybe he slots into 3rd center after Kopitar contract ends? Cant imagine they are done with him after 8 games in a situation nobody thrived in. Its weird to rebuild just to throw it all out the window…
We traded 19OA and a 2nd rounder who was unlikely to sign for a player who could likely finally be the player to outscore Kopitar whos lead the team in scoring every year bar one since 07 and people are unhappy?
If you read what they are saying its not like that. They dont hate Fiala and its not about the cost. Its about the implications for the players they drafted during a rebuild all in attempt to get Kopitar players to play with again.
I get both sides. I will probably only really be unhappy with the moves if they trade guys like Turcotte and Vilardi and they break out on other teams and we still have Kopitar and Iafallo on the powerplay unit and top overtime unit not getting the job done.
Lets not use Kopitar as a bar for points anymore either after that display against the Oilers. He didnt have one offensive play I can even remember that entire series.
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