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Kings News: Fiala to for 2022 first-round pick and Brock Faber

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seems to me scoring begets scoring....Arvidsson and Danualt come in and scoring improved. Why? they had basic offensive skills and younger than the guys they replaced. Now you add another point producer to the mix- naturally scoring will increase across the board. Even with 1/5 reduction of goal scoring he still would have been on the team. I fail to see how adding Fiala somehow makes the team worst or interrupts the long term strategy.
 
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bland said:
Buncha simps on this board who get all excited over any news.

Ask yourself what kind of game Fiala plays, how it meshes with this roster, how there is no chance in hell he is going to get to play with the kids that do fit his game, and how the Kings just paid thru the nose to add another 50-60 point winger. Did you see Fiala in the playoffs? Guessing not, because dude was overmatched and laid an egg. Kopitar does not do well with aggressive players, he is too slow and too measured to be a fit for Fiala.

This doesn't do anything to help. Teams don't succeed because they bring in better players, they succeed because they coalesce into something beyond the individuals. Nothing here is going to change until they stop trying to force feed this outdated identity that needed more than just support even when they were in their prime. This is a black hole move, pure and simple. You can spend all the cap and all the prospects, nothing is going to change the glass ceiling, nepotism and hubris that has made this franchise suffer for nearly a decade now.

Lastly, blow it out your ass.
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Fiala is going to learn how to do this:

 
I'm not a Kings fan but just looking at this from the outside:

-Add a 25 year old winger and even if he is not scoring 80 he will most likely be in the 60-70 range which is a huge improvement
-Trading away a first in this draft is not a big deal as it is a really bad draft....2023 is light years better
-Faber might be ok but this is still a risk for Minnesota...hopefully he turns out but not a major prospect

Minnesota could of pulled in way more at the draft but they settled here big time. The Kings are looking even better in a division that is hot garbage. I would not be surprised to see a big improvement next year with your squad.
 
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man that's a shame about faber, guess that smoke was a fire then

fiala probably suits a few lines here but that's also a lot of money. suppose it hurts less in the future if the cap flies up. pretty stable player too minus the obvious overachievement last season

i want to like this but man, another 1st rounder from a team that's missed on several 1st rounders and can't break over the hump.. guess it's fair but there were some interesting opportunities there in the 1st round. bird in the hand or whatever..
 
bland said:
So what?

Kopitar is no longer a top tier center. Doesn't matter who they get to play with him. The Kings aren't winning a damn thing until they get better production out of their #1c, #1d and #1g, no matter how legendary their primes were so long ago.

Nobody wins by fattening the middle of their roster while the top end underperforms. This team is not a contender and won't be until those roles are improved. In the meantime, its ridiculous to give guys like Fiala that much money to be more of the same of what you already have when you need so much more in other areas.
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Who's to say that Fiala will not play with Byfield, Vilardi, Chromiak, Kupari, Kaliyev or even Turcotte and help turn them into productive players? Matt Boldy was put into a position to succeed, when he got to play with Fiala.
Maybe Fiala starts with Kopitar and Kempe...and maybe he doesn't. In 2 years, Kopitar will be gone and Byfield will probably be 1C and playing with a 28 year old, in his prime, Fiala....and 1 of Chromiak, Kaliyev.
Maybe Fiala will be to Kaliyev or QB, what he was to Boldy or what Danault was for Moore.

And saying that Faber would be lining up against McDavid, was not happening. Blake was seen at the suite at that game and met with Brock and probably spent 4 hours with him. He was offered a contract and to even play in the NHL right then. It's now obvious Brock told him his intentions were to play out 4 yrs and become a free agent...or at a minimum, Blake came away from there, knowing it looked bleak to sign him. Brock is a standup guy and seems to have good character...and if to become a FA after 4 years, he probably told Blake that straight up.

Fiala is not standing in the way of: QB, Kaliyev, Chromiak, Vilardi, Kupari. They either have a spot, or need to beat someone for a spot. I think line 3 becomes a bigger factor now and line 4 will play less and that's fine. Blake Lizotte being your best player some nights, is not a good thing. It's not a bad thing, Lizotte is good. But it's time a third line emerges that can be your best line some nights and be better than the 4th line. Be it a mix of: QB, Iafallo, Kupari, Vilardi, etc. If QB emerges this year, he will get more than 12 minutes. He should be #2 PP, period. Kind of like how AI was cemented on PP 1 for most all year. Let QB play.
 
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Now the firstline will be on plus instead of minus when it comes to +/- stats.
 
tny760 said:
man that's a shame about faber, guess that smoke was a fire then

fiala probably suits a few lines here but that's also a lot of money. suppose it hurts less in the future if the cap flies up. pretty stable player too minus the obvious overachievement last season

i want to like this but man, another 1st rounder from a team that's missed on several 1st rounders and can't break over the hump.. guess it's fair but there were some interesting opportunities there in the 1st round. bird in the hand or whatever..
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Yeah said the same, I wasn't in favor of trading any RHD until some identities took shape but this one is a signal to me that it was what we thought it was. Good for him and Minny, since he's got a state tattoo on his ass.

I was a little worried about the cap but the comps check out, going rate for a winger of his caliber, plus in 3-4 years that'll be more than the norm.

I don't think the player we got at 19 would be here before 2025 and if we got a 60 point player at that range, it would be a massive success. This is a secured asset.

Not arguing, just trying to make you feel better lol.
 
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Now the firstline will be on plus instead of minus when it comes to +/- stats.
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It had better.

If they're flanking the corpse of Kopitar with stellar skating transition wingers in Kempe and Fiala like he's f***ing Weekend at Bernie's and they don't' collectively end up a +, it's safe to say it's the end of the road for Kopitar as a top-six option.

I'm betting this is the year they hope Byfield becomes a top-six option so they can go into next year with Danault as #1 and Byfield as #2 for a year or two.
 
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King'sPawn said:
The dislike bland and I have for the trade has nothing to do with Fiala, Faber, or the first. Fiala's a very good player. Faber, in my opinion, will be a very good player. The first could be a very good player.

But here's where we are.

The Kings traded for Fiala, who scored 85 points on a team that scored 310 goals. On a team that scored 237 goals last year, like the Kings, that translates to about 65 points.

Anyone who expects Fiala to score 85 points in the near future in LA has unrealistic expectations.

There was zero rush to trade Faber. Even if there was a rush to trade a right-handed defenseman because of the depth, there was a bigger need on LD and goaltending than another winger.

There is not a clear long-term plan aside from "chase the playoffs and hope the prospects develop well enough to take over when the vets can't anymore." THIS is the problem. It's carrying over from last season and into this one.
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We're back to the same BS that existed when Robitaille and Blake played for the Kings, "Just make the playoffs and anything can happen."
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Yeah said the same, I wasn't in favor of trading any RHD until some identities took shape but this one is a signal to me that it was what we thought it was. Good for him and Minny, since he's got a state tattoo on his ass.

I was a little worried about the cap but the comps check out, going rate for a winger of his caliber, plus in 3-4 years that'll be more than the norm.

I don't think the player we got at 19 would be here before 2025 and if we got a 60 point player at that range, it would be a massive success. This is a secured asset.

Not arguing, just trying to make you feel better lol.
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yeah i mean, it suits the "'win now' pretty soon" thing blake seems to be doing, whether i agree with that or not

obviously it's not fair to call it a lombardi trade but i'm getting a bit tired of trading away 1sts when none of our 1sts have impact yet

i'll probably grow to agree with it in a few days, there were some hot gambles in the mid-1st round this coming draft though.......
 
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Don’t worry about the trade boys. If you’re really concerned about the deployment and lines then Todd needs to be fired immediately. It’s not the players we’re getting it’s the way they’re being utilized. Todd needs to get fired if you want the rookies to get a real hard look

tny760 said:
yeah i mean, it suits the "'win now' pretty soon" thing blake seems to be doing, whether i agree with that or not

obviously it's not fair to call it a lombardi trade but i'm getting a bit tired of trading away 1sts when none of our 1sts have impact yet

i'll probably grow to agree with it in a few days, there were some hot gambles in the mid-1st round this coming draft though.......
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Blake is solidifying his job. The possibilities of the kids failing is real and he will be fired if they come crashing down which is likely. Fiala buffers that possibility.
 
Blake made a very good trade today. Fiala is exactly what the team needed. Fabor has become a bit overrated IMO and didn't really grow his overall game this past season. He will play in the NHL but he is Matt Roy if he hits his full potential. That's good but not irreplaceable. The 1st could be a good player (and probably will be) but he will be 4 years away.

Congrats to Blake for doing what needed to be done. Now add a LHD and it will be a very good summer.
 
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cyclones22 said:
I think Blake has made some excellent acquisitions. I like that Fiala is just turning 26 as well. But the Kings won't win a Cup again until they draft and develop their own stars again. All the Cup winners including the Kings have done it. The foundational pillars are always homegrown. You can trade or buy supporting pieces. Danault, Arvidsson and now Fiala are very nice supporting pieces. But you don't win big unless you draft your franchise players.

They need to start giving QB and Clarke when he makes the team, very favorable conditions to succeed. Although it seems a bit of a pipe dream to have Fiala play training wheels to QB or another young winger, it's something he did successfully last season with Boldy. I want to see legit players on QB's wings for long stretches. Not be on a line with 2 other rookies or second year players and expect them to excel. Not be paired with ill-fitting pieces like a washed Brown and a chaos merchant in AA either. Let's see it this upcoming season.
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The Kings arent contending for the trophy next year so whether he plays w QB or Kopi or Danault doesnt much matter from my perspective. I wouldnt mind him playing with QB but that implies 3rd line minutes. Odds are it will be Kaliyev w QB and probably Iafalloff
 
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