Kings News: Fiala to for 2022 first-round pick and Brock Faber
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Dave33
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You guys are acting like they traded for a washed up dude on his last legs. Fiala is entering his prime, and is what we hope some of the forward prospects become. Can't fathom being upset at picking him up at this fair price. I don't think this is giving up on a rebuild, this is giving the young guys a better team to play on, that's a favorable aspect for development.
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Lombardi's trade for Williams fit a vision of what type of team he wanted.
Lombardi's trades after 2010 were when they had a core of Kopitar (23), Doughty (20), Quick (23) being the core and leading the team to the playoffs.
The organization is at a different time where they need to have prospects/young players rise up, lead, and take ownership before trading them away.
Disagree. They traded for a winger. This will give Byfield a good linemate by either playing together or moving an expected top 6 winger to Byfield's line. More scoring should lead to more/larger leads and rolling lines resulting in more even ice time for the top 9.
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I understand that point don’t get me wrong. However I don’t think you see the Kings actively looking for forwards if any of their top 5 picks started to blossom. That didn’t happen and you saw it on the score sheet which probably is upping Blake’s desperation for offense im sure. Neither of those kids have shown anything or improved their wingers.
I do think Fiala is a good pick up now that time has passed since the announcement
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Chazz Reinhold
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You don’t think Fiala fits a vision of the team they’re trying to build, which is one that is an aggressive forechecking team?
We saw some younger players show some leadership, mainly Mikey Anderson. Kempe had a breakout season that we’ve all been waiting for, and Kaliyev is going to become an even better player. I think a healthy Byfield is going to surprise a lot of his naysayers as well.
They traded one prospect and a pick in what is considered a weak draft for a player who is going to be making a big impact for the next seven seasons. The Kings need to build off of their showing in the postseason, and this to me shows progress. Sitting on his hands and doing nothing would be a regression
Feeling more like the Dave Taylor years than the Dean Lombardi years but I guess we’ll see.
Cheech89
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There are so many ways to improve. It’s not just draft prospects and pray they pan out, cause guess what… they mostly don’t.
Blake is steadily improving the team and barely giving up futures. This is the most he’s given up for a ppg player, who’s hard on the puck.
Stop crying.
The kids have had chances, and haven’t really grabbed them.
This is a good move.
I agree with what you are upset about. But this trade isnt so bad. Fiala would look real good next to Turcotte.
The cost was a first in a weak draft when there isnt much room in the pipeline anyway.
And also Faber. But I think this was just a throw in because both Blake and Guerin knew he would only sign in Minnesota after school so he was going to be lost for nothing anyway.
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It will be interesting to see what Kempe gets - wouldve preferred they signed him before this deal was completed - I wonder if Blake already has it worked out. Also wondering what they plan on doing with Vilardi - see how he does in camp I guess and then decide to trade, Hickey or sign? Durzi is due a contract - that should be a no brainer. All this is moot if Blake moves them for a piece - will be an interesting summer.
AbsentMojo
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JQ and Kopi were DT pickups. DL vision is what took them over the top - getting buyin for tank and build got him DD, right trades right time like Stoll and Greene for Lubo, JW for Sullivan Richards for Schenn and Simmonds. Columbus being out benefactor helped a lot too. Some of it skill some of it luck.
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I see both sides now (thanks Joni MItchell) with Bland/King's Pawn countering the reserved optimism of most other posters. I think what we are missing on Faber is that he always wanted to go to the Wild. That makes his trade value to anyone else a little bit less. Plus, each year he returns to school makes him a depreciating asset. I think we maximized his value today. The odds of the #1 pick becoming anything close to what Fiala has already achieved are quite long, and the Kings have too many RD prospects already. There is also another part to Fiala that I think we are underestimating. I haven't seen him play that much, but he seems to bring some serious attitude to the ice, much like Danault. Plus, his body build type usually has a long career. This makes this trade clever asset management, IMO.
I'm less concerned about LD as there are a plethora of options out there, and we still have trade capital/cap space to make that happen. But, elite scorers in their prime hardly ever become available, and we have him locked up based on an $82.5 mm cap- he would be making a lot more if he waited for two years to sign a big deal. Plus, the fact he signed is a good signal that he believes the organization is moving in the right direction.
On the other hand, I think our biggest need is goaltending. Expecting Quick to have another injury free year is a pipe dream, and Peterson has yet to prove he can handle the pressure of being a #1. Could the assets we lost today been better deployed here? Probably, but I'm sure Blake was put in a position to put up or shut up today or Fiala would now be wearing another jersey.
The bigger issue I think Bland and KP have is that Fiala blocks the development of our youth, and I'm sympathetic to that argument. We have a whole bunch of prospects who are worth less today than they were a year ago, and this trade isn't going to help that. In my opinion the way to create opportunities is to trade vets who have already reached their ceilings. That included AI, Walker and probably Roy. The latter may fetch a top goalie prospect.
I guess for all of us, we just need to wait and see what other moves are yet to be made. As a stand alone, this trade is probably good for the short term, neutral for the intermediate term and negative for the long term, but we can't look at it in isolation.
I'm less concerned about LD as there are a plethora of options out there, and we still have trade capital/cap space to make that happen. But, elite scorers in their prime hardly ever become available, and we have him locked up based on an $82.5 mm cap- he would be making a lot more if he waited for two years to sign a big deal. Plus, the fact he signed is a good signal that he believes the organization is moving in the right direction.
On the other hand, I think our biggest need is goaltending. Expecting Quick to have another injury free year is a pipe dream, and Peterson has yet to prove he can handle the pressure of being a #1. Could the assets we lost today been better deployed here? Probably, but I'm sure Blake was put in a position to put up or shut up today or Fiala would now be wearing another jersey.
The bigger issue I think Bland and KP have is that Fiala blocks the development of our youth, and I'm sympathetic to that argument. We have a whole bunch of prospects who are worth less today than they were a year ago, and this trade isn't going to help that. In my opinion the way to create opportunities is to trade vets who have already reached their ceilings. That included AI, Walker and probably Roy. The latter may fetch a top goalie prospect.
I guess for all of us, we just need to wait and see what other moves are yet to be made. As a stand alone, this trade is probably good for the short term, neutral for the intermediate term and negative for the long term, but we can't look at it in isolation.
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Kings were sitting on a worthless asset the 19th overall pick, drafting yet another prospect when your are up to your eyeballs in high level prospects would have been absolutely idiotic.
Faber is rumored wanting to to stay in Minnesota and when your are ass deep in right handed D Men, you turn an asset that may have been problematic to sign down the road, into a dividend.
Blake did a great job.
Same people who don't like this deal were probably saying Blake overpaid Danault last year
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Durzi just had 27 points in 64 games. That is more points than all but one of Chychrun's seasons. It is more games played than all but Chychrun's rookie year. I will never understand this love for Chychrun.
Can you please tell me how many goals other teams scored on Kings, because of Durzi?
BigKing
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Durzi, again, has balls which sets him apart from almost everyone on the team.
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Fiala played a significant role in helping Boldy put up points in his rookie season. He didn’t seem to block him from having a productive first year.
Also, this is from two years ago, but it’s a fun personal look at Fiala.
Also, this is from two years ago, but it’s a fun personal look at Fiala.
deaderhead28
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You want Byfield to play 1st line minutes when he struggles with 3rd line responsibly? Kopitar is still better at this point than Byfield.
He just got named Minnesota Gophers Team Captin for this year. True This guy looks like a strait shooter with middle management written all over him.?'
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With it becoming incredibly clear that the brass is not going to be un-hitching from the wagon that is Kopitar & Doughty, I can see the thought process here of the trade.
I don’t agree with the direction, but it’s hard to scoff at the cost, especially if the smoke about Faber working his way to post-college UFA status.
Cost controlled youth are great, but they have to produce at some level before the controlled cost is any benefit. Otherwise it’s young players at fair value.
I don’t agree with the direction, but it’s hard to scoff at the cost, especially if the smoke about Faber working his way to post-college UFA status.
Cost controlled youth are great, but they have to produce at some level before the controlled cost is any benefit. Otherwise it’s young players at fair value.
