Fantasy GM Thread | Two Minutes to Midnight for Horvat?

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Friedman saying EP is the only untouchable but it would take a massive offer for Hughes.

Management says the right things, I'll give them that. EP should be the only untouchable.

Doubt Hughes goes anywhere and the fanbase would go crazy.. but that's definitely a move they should consider. Return would be insane and you can get use out of OEL as a PP1/sheltered guy in the Hughes role.
 
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Friedman saying EP is the only untouchable but it would take a massive offer for Hughes.

Management says the right things, I'll give them that. EP should be the only untouchable.

Doubt Hughes goes anywhere and the fanbase would go crazy.. but that's definitely a move they should consider. Return would be insane and you can get use out of OEL as a PP1/sheltered guy in the Hughes role.
If this mgmt group signs Boeser and Miller, the proceeds to trade Hughes…
 
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it’s safe to say, the ownership is really in charge and the management is just puppets.

need new owners things will never change if aqualini is still in charge. doesnt matter anymore if they even hire a new president if rutherford decides to call it quits the man is 73.. years old for god sakes. owners mindset. "no rebuilts we want one round of playoffs with this core.. blah blah.
 

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i would move Hughes for Sanderson can go join his buddy in Ottawa
even Dobson. wanted that guy over the smurf anyway

2 of the last 3 yrs he's sucked. Makes 7.8 million for 4 primary points 5v5. Perimeter Quinn Housley will just get smashed in a long playoff. He's gonna leave like Tkachuk did but as a UFA in 4 1/2 yrs
 

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Trade Quinn Hughes? sure if the offer is a huge overpayment. He's a unique talent.

He's not a perfect in the sense that at times he has trouble defending deep in the d zone. But he's been dealt such a poor hand.

First year, plays with Tanev, and he produces, and even produce into the playoffs. I think people forget how good Quinn was in the bubble, when he was actually paired with a good defender.

Then since then, he's played with rhd like Myers, Schenn, Hamonic, etc..

He's currently playing with Luke Schenn - He's played above his paygrade, but he's a bottom pairing dman on a good team.

He's probably not even healthy right now. Been a game time decision not too long ago.

Even Gretzky can be traded, so can Quinn, but you better get quality + quantity. I mean like 2 sure thing high end pieces+.
 

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The Canucks franchise has never had a defenseman as good as Hughes and they are thinking of trading him? Even for an over-payment it doesn't make sense. I don't believe for a second that they would trade him. Eliot F is an idiot and is making shit up.
 
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Friedman saying EP is the only untouchable but it would take a massive offer for Hughes.

Management says the right things, I'll give them that. EP should be the only untouchable.

Doubt Hughes goes anywhere and the fanbase would go crazy.. but that's definitely a move they should consider. Return would be insane and you can get use out of OEL as a PP1/sheltered guy in the Hughes role.

OEL this season has been dreadful, and even though Quinn has not been good, OEL could'nt cover for what we would miss. Like have you watched OEL this year?

I am not against trading anyone this year, but lets be realistic in our evaluations.
 
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OEL this season has been dreadful, and even though Quinn has not been good, OEL could'nt cover for what we would miss. Like have you watched OEL this year?

I am not against trading anyone this year, but lets be realistic in our evaluations.

I mean, I never said OEL has been good? That's kind of the point, I think OEL is best served as a PP/sheltered guy vs his current role. If there's a different mix on defense you can use him more in that role vs the one he has now which is a poor fit.

It's all kind of a moot point, I don't think anyone expects Hughes to actually be traded.
 
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Hughes is not the type of #1 you win cups with as has stalled in his progression.

If you trade him you need to get 2 premium prospects back plus some

IE Jiricek/Nemec + Sillinger/Cuelemen/Holtz + another asset or 2 + (probably a cap dump)
 

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Friedman saying EP is the only untouchable but it would take a massive offer for Hughes.

Management says the right things, I'll give them that. EP should be the only untouchable.

Doubt Hughes goes anywhere and the fanbase would go crazy.. but that's definitely a move they should consider. Return would be insane and you can get use out of OEL as a PP1/sheltered guy in the Hughes role.
They've been saying the "right" things since they took over. They haven't acted accordingly.

I don't care what they say. JR/Allvin talk out of one mouth and s*** out the other. Make some decent transactions and I'll change my tune.
 

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They've been saying the "right" things since they took over. They haven't acted accordingly.

I don't care what they say. JR/Allvin talk out of one mouth and s*** out the other. Make some decent transactions and I'll change my tune.
Yeah I don’t give a shit about interviews/leaks at this point after all the talk last season.
 
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As far as IM concerned any major trade you make has to be bring in Young C's are Yound Dman. PIcks are great but they should not be the main piece in any major deal this team makes
 

m9

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They've been saying the "right" things since they took over. They haven't acted accordingly.

I don't care what they say. JR/Allvin talk out of one mouth and s*** out the other. Make some decent transactions and I'll change my tune.

Oh, absolutely. It's just words at this point, but I think it's good in that the rumoured circle of untouchables has gone from 3 to just 1. I don't think either Demko or Hughes should be untouchable and it seems like management has softened a bit as well.

I also still think it's highly unlikely those guys get traded so it probably doesn't matter.

They need to get Horvat figured out first. The comments last night from Allvin about them having two months or whatever to figure out Horvat are just so frustrating.
 

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Oh, absolutely. It's just words at this point, but I think it's good in that the rumoured circle of untouchables has gone from 3 to just 1. I don't think either Demko or Hughes should be untouchable and it seems like management has softened a bit as well.

I also still think it's highly unlikely those guys get traded so it probably doesn't matter.

They need to get Horvat figured out first. The comments last night from Allvin about them having two months or whatever to figure out Horvat are just so frustrating.
Months for him to go on a slump or get injured too...which would be a total "Canucks" thing to happen.
 

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As far as IM concerned any major trade you make has to be bring in Young C's are Yound Dman. PIcks are great but they should not be the main piece in any major deal this team makes
Which teams are lining up to trade good young centers or dmen who either are in the nhl or will be soon?

Unless your definition of good is players who have not been as good as hoped. The Canucks love those guys.
 

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How legit is Top Shelf Hockey on youtube?

A couple days ago he had a video about 2 potential packages from NYI for Horvat

1 - Raty + 23 1st
2 - Bolduc + Odelius + 23 1st

He mentioned perhaps Vancouver might have to retain or take a cap dump back unless NYI dumps someone before the deal happens
 

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How legit is Top Shelf Hockey on youtube?

A couple days ago he had a video about 2 potential packages from NYI for Horvat

1 - Raty + 23 1st
2 - Bolduc + Odelius + 23 1st

He mentioned perhaps Vancouver might have to retain or take a cap dump back unless NYI dumps someone before the deal happens

Those are just trade proposals from the account. They are also not deals the Canucks would accept for Horvat.
 
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