F Teuvo Teräväinen (2012, 18th overall, Chicago) ‎II

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Hard to tell from a head shot but it doesnt look like Teravainen has hit the weight room yet. Added gold and some acne but thats about it.

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1. I don't think there is room for Teravainen in at the WC. There are better options.
2. Hardly.
3. I think he needs a lot more strength and speed to be effective at the highest level. Even in the WJC final he looked weak and timid in a couple of contacts. So, no he won't be ready any time soon by the look of it.

1. Don't know, don't care at this point.
2. Nope.
3. Yes. Without doubt.
 
I like the kid a lot. He's on the smaller side, and I definitely see him as a bit of a perimeter player in the NHL, but he is very, VERY skilled. Sick hands, great vision, good skater, nice shot, he's basically the complete package except for size/physicality. Reminds me a lot of a poor man's Phil Kessel, he's gonna be a very good player for the Hawks. Not sure if he'll be a winger or a centre in the NHL, I'm leaning towards winger, but I definitely think he's going to be a good top 6 forward.
 
I compared his style to RNH but doesn't he look a lot like Markus Granlund?

A bit better Markus Granlund is the best comparison one can find. Or a lot better, who knows. - Or even worse when all is said and done.

Teravainen's skating looks effortless but powerless as well. Quick short strides with not much strength to go with.

I don't know what's the problem with his skating actually. Probably not fixable either. Since he should be a "good skater" but then again he is not. As if he were skating with blunt blades.

He screams perimeter player. There's no physicality in his game. Zero. He will have to rely on his elusiveness, quick hands and vision.

I think it will take quite a long for him to adjust and translate to the NHL. - But forget about the center role. He is no RNH.
 
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I compared his style to RNH but doesn't he look a lot like Markus Granlund?

A bit better Markus Granlund is the best comparison one can find. Or a lot better, who knows. - Or even worse when all is said and done.

Teravainen's skating looks effortless but powerless as well. Quick strides with not much strength to go with. And the stride looks too short.

I don't know what's the problem with his skating actually. Probably not fixable either. Since he should be a "good skater" but then again he is not. As if he were skating with blunt blades.

Not Markus Granlund but yes RHN. The thing about Teravainen's skating is his ability to dodge through traffic and avoid the checks. He looks like waterbug at times especially at the offensive zone and PP. That skating ability reminds me from RHN. I would compare his playing style to Igor Larionov. That ability to remain calm, poised even if there is total chaos around them and ability to find the perfect time to pass and wait extra micro second for the perfect time to pass. That patience and poise reminds me alot from Larionov. People should pay more attention to his two-way game. Once he get's stronger he has potential to be good to very good two-way player. Think Valtteri Filppula defensively. He isn't just highlight reel offensive package, he is offensively minded player who knows his duties and works hard in the every area of the game. I expect him to be solid all around player.
 
I compared his style to RNH but doesn't he look a lot like Markus Granlund?

A bit better Markus Granlund is the best comparison one can find. Or a lot better, who knows. - Or even worse when all is said and done.

Teravainen's skating looks effortless but powerless as well. Quick short strides with not much strength to go with.

I don't know what's the problem with his skating actually. Probably not fixable either. Since he should be a "good skater" but then again he is not. As if he were skating with blunt blades.

He screams perimeter player. There's no physicality in his game. Zero. He will have to rely on his elusiveness, quick hands and vision.

I think it will take quite a long for him to adjust and translate to the NHL. - But forget about the center role. He is no RNH.

One more thing: maybe there's some truth to it that small rink fits better to his skillset. He is not a fast or strong skater but shifty and quick with quick hands
and quick decision making and good vision. So, in a sense the NA game should favor his strengths. But also expose his weaknesses.

I have never seen him make a hit or drive to the net. Haven't watched him a ton though but anyways he doesn't look like a player to go dirty areas.

There are areas of concern in his game.
 
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Reminds me a lot of a poor man's Phil Kessel, he's gonna be a very good player for the Hawks. Not sure if he'll be a winger or a centre in the NHL, I'm leaning towards winger, but I definitely think he's going to be a good top 6 forward.

TT is not a one dimensional goal scorer, but I guess he could be a one dimensional playmaker in the NHL
 
I have never seen him make a hit or drive to the net. Haven't watched him a ton though but anyways he doesn't look like a player to go dirty areas.

There are areas of concern in his game.

I have a Jokerit season ticket and I haven't seen him either. Although our team is full of the kind of players whose only asset is going to the dirty areas so there's really no need for TT to do that.
 
Teuvo made a great comment at the gold medal celebrations:

"Apparently we didn't play too well, but still managed to win. Don't what happened there."

:sarcasm:
 
TT adding strength isn't as big a deal as it's made out to be for a few reasons...

1. The Blackhawks have never needed size and strength to win/ Skill has always been king.

2. TT is developing a solid two-way game right now without that extra strength.

3. When TT is with the Hawks, He will probably play with Bickell (6'4, 233)/ Saad (6'2, 215) and Andrew Shaw (who is the fifth lightest player in hockey yet is one of the most physical and drops the gloves)- TT won't need to be physical, the other guys on his line will do a good enough job of that on their own without needing TT to bother himself with it.
 
TT's best comparable is Nazem Kadri without the nastiness and physicality IMO. He's not a great skater but he is elusive and good on his edges and laterally. He has crazy hands and great vision and playmaking ability. Both really nifty players.
 
TT's best comparable is Nazem Kadri without the nastiness and physicality IMO. He's not a great skater but he is elusive and good on his edges and laterally. He has crazy hands and great vision and playmaking ability. Both really nifty players.

If you compare their WJC careers TT seems to be way ahead of Kadri.
 
TT's best comparable is Nazem Kadri without the nastiness and physicality IMO. He's not a great skater but he is elusive and good on his edges and laterally. He has crazy hands and great vision and playmaking ability. Both really nifty players.

Not even close. He's RNH (bit less gritty) with Kane-like hands.

IMO, He and Barkov are probably going to be the top two Fins for quite sometime when both are fully developed.
 
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I remember in the summer everyone was giving their Top 10 Prospects and was the only one to have TT in mine, which surprised me.

Would you guys put him in now?
 
TT is not a one dimensional goal scorer, but I guess he could be a one dimensional playmaker in the NHL
Are you saying Kessel is a one dimensional goal scorer? He's one of the best playmaking wingers in the league.

They remind me of each other in the sense that both like to carry the puck, both have great vision, great hands and are very shifty, but both are fairly soft/small. Kessel is faster with a better shot, and a higher skill level in general, hence a poor man's Kessel, but that could still be an excellent player. Kessel was a centre pre-NHL, but like Kessel I think TT's game is likely going to be better suited to the wing at the NHL level.
 
0+3 today against Blues. Looked very much like in WJC.

Yeah that stood out today. Must have got a HUGE confidence boost from the WJC. Hopefully he can keep this up and show people he has it in him, even against men.
 
Didn't see the game unfortunately. But sounds good: three primary assists, was it? Not shabby. If he can keep it up (I mean PPG +) that would be something. And I would have to revise my assessment.

In fact I hope he will. He is a likable guy and has tons of this so called "natural talent". That's why he should COMPETE and get more involved in the game, physically and mentally.

There's always this possibility that you cannot fix this thing, this mindset, this tendency -whatever it is. That his natural talent should not be restrained or restricted to some pre-conceived mould in order it to shine. That's usually the case with "natural talents".

I think he will be a good NHLer, nevertheless. But the point was that there are reasons to think he won't reach or surpass Granlund's level. Not offensively or in overall game - the reasons being: 1) Teravainen hardly can play center in the NHL
2) He lacks Granlund's playmaking ability 3) His compete level is low compared to Granlund.
 
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I wrote this on the Hawks board. Thought it might fit under this topic aswell:

Looking amazing against a bunch of kids is never a guarantee, but seems only Filatov on this top 20 all time WJC isn't on the way to fame, all others have had great careers. Some older ones from europe obviously have only a couple of NHL seasons or none due to european players rarity in the NHL. And Filatov has been playing one more WJC as he has 20 games played against 13 games of Teravainen, but has only one point more in those 19 games.

There are two guys tied with Teravainen who haven't entered their primes either. Eberle (12 games played) and Brayden Schenn (13 games played). Filatov, Kuznetsov and Scroeder are also tied in points but have one more tournament played (20 games, 26 points) so they don't really compare to Schenn Eberle and Teravainen. But Bure, Forsberg, Tikkanen, Mogilny, Näslund, Lindros, Nylander are higher in all time WJC scoring.

H. Sedin (first one below Teravainen), Ovechkin (second below Teravainen), Both have played in three WJC, so they have around 20 games played.

So being on the top 20 list in WJC you have around 1/15 chance to bust historically (Schenn, Teravainen, Schroeder, Kuznetsov, Eberle can't be considered great just yet), unless you calculate with Ovechkin, Sedin, Krutov, Sedin, Roenick, Malkin as your next best all time players, then you get 1/20 bust rate.

All in all, I cannot say who is gonna bust or not, but there hasn't yet been one bust who has played in two WJC tournaments with PPG of 2 or above. And there has been only 7 players who have been able to do that, including Eberle and Schenn.

Source for stats:

http://www.eliteprospects.com/league_total.php?league_sum_totals=yes&teamgroup=&timeperiod=&from=&to=&season=%&leagueid=WJC-20&leagueteam=&sort=&nation=&name=&order=TP



You wouldn't be disappointed in Maatta's 14 points in 44 games while being solid as a rock defensively. He is touted to be one of the best defensemen in the Penguins this season so far and Penguins D while not the best in the NHL in any way still has many solid defensemen in their ranks.

He has played many games over 20 this season and december 18th he logged over 28 minutes of icetime, both PK and PP. Penguins were suffering from injuries yes. But if Maatta wasn't an NHL ready defenseman, he wouldn't be used that much. He has slowed down since and been losing some icetime logging 18 minutes a game. But if you find 10 better players from that 2012 1st round I salute you. Here's a list of the drafted:

http://www.eliteprospects.com/draft.php?year=2012
 
Didn't see the game unfortunately. But sounds good: three primary assists, was it? Not shabby. If he can keep it up (I mean PPG +) that would be something. And I would have to revise my assessment...
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1) Teravainen hardly can play center in the NHL
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Yeah, all three were primary assists, not too shabby.

Bolded: I think we have to let him play a few games in the NHL before we come to that conclusion ;)
 
I would like to see him moving to another Sm-liiga team in next season as Jokerit is moving to KHL. Teams like Ässät, Tappara, Ilves and Kalpa would be good fits for him. Give him a role as a second line center to develop him as a center, hardworking physical two-way winger and a goalscorer winger as a linemates.
 
I would like to see him moving to another Sm-liiga team in next season as Jokerit is moving to KHL. Teams like Ässät, Tappara, Ilves and Kalpa would be good fits for him. Give him a role as a second line center to develop him as a center, hardworking physical two-way winger and a goalscorer winger as a linemates.

Are you serious? It is a fact he will move to Chicago or Rockford after Jokerit's season ends this year.
 

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