F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[JianYang]

Looks like when this thread was created back in 2021, demidov was considered 'tiny".

He's no slafkovsky in size but he certainly doesn't appear to be tiny anymore.

 

[Koivu11]

what the....

Last season McDavid was a relative -22, being +35 on a +57 team.

Sad!

 

[Sasha Orlov]

what the....

This poster trolls about Demidov all day because he’s very upset that his team didn’t draft him

He also lies a LOT and I genuinely don’t think he’s ever even seen Demidov play before

 

[Kairi Zaide]

SKA is a +33, plus minus only is useful when evaluating two players on the same team and using that plus minus relative to the team..

Demidov is a relative -17, being a +16 on a +33 team is not a flex.

When you don't know how to do and apply math... Please, avoid from using math. That's not how you'd calculate a "relative +/-" (which would be compared to _teammates_, not team, think RelTM G± available on EH).

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Demidov would not have been in the NHL this year. Be serious.

He would 100%. Habs have showed it with Slaf and he was more raw than Demidov.

 

[Kegs]

He might be wrong but the only reason Demidov, unlike Michkov, is not in the NHL, is his contract with SKA.



Again, really poor reasoning.

Ok…. I guess he isn’t a Calder candidate? What part of what I said is “really poor reasoning?”

 

[Baksfamous112]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850951533887623307

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Yeah he's a dog out there on the takeaways and defensive efforts , it's why some see him capable of playing C down the line , he has quite the attention to detail

 

[WarriorofTime]

He is ready for NHL next year, imo.

 

[Garbageyuk]

This poster trolls about Demidov all day because he’s very upset that his team didn’t draft him

He also lies a LOT and I genuinely don’t think he’s ever even seen Demidov play before

He just posted a list where he has Demidov as the 5th best prospect in the KHL lmao. He’s got guys like Artamonov and Zavragin ahead of him, Silayev too

 

[danisonfire]

Yeah he's a dog out there on the takeaways and defensive efforts , it's why some see him capable of playing C down the line , he has quite the attention to detail

This is why Bobrov loved him so much and why he was eager to draft him for several years, before the actual draft. It was beyond his skill and production.

High skill level, high compete level, great offensive production and attention to details at both ends of the ice. You rarely get all four in a single player. Let's hope he keeps it up.

 

[hohosaregood]

He's gonna be at least as good as Makarov

 

[Kennedys]

Last season McDavid was a relative -22, being +35 on a +57 team.

Sad!

Patrice Bergeron was a relative -93 when he won the selke in 2022-23

 

[Koivu11]

Patrice Bergeron was a relative -93 when he won the selke in 2022-23

 

[red devil]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851666162393698517

 

[KevSkillz4]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851666162393698517

Against best KHL team.

He is unreal!!

Superstar talent 100%

 

[Frank Drebin]

this is our prospect?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Against best KHL team.

He is unreal!!

Superstar talent 100%

Can’t wait to see what posters who I won’t name will say to try and discredit this lmao

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Against best KHL team.

He is unreal!!

Superstar talent 100%

Very slick move

 

[The Last Red]

Can’t wait to see what posters who I won’t name will say to try and discredit this lmao

Michkov was better at 12.

 

[Jamaican Patty]

Imagine if he got consistent PP like other top russian prospects. His production would be even better.

 

[Koivu11]

Does that goal improve his relative +/-?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Imagine if he got consistent PP like other top russian prospects. His production would be even better.

He would be leading the KHL in points as an 18yo rookie and having the best season for a D+1 Russian prospect in history

 

[Frank Drebin]

Does that goal improve his relative +/-?

It’s still very bad

 

[ViD]

Personally I start to believe he MIGHT be as good as Michkov in terms of raw talent with different abilities