F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[Baksfamous112]

There's no need for retrospection. Everyone knew Michkov was a better prospect than Reinbacher at the time.

They should have taken Michkov and Demidov. Draft BPA that high in the draft.

Yeah but then Montreal would have a huge freaking hole at RHD and a top pairing RHD is the hardest position to fill with 1C, so yeah, I’m ok with Montreal taking a swing at a potential top pairing RHD over yet another winger

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

That’s such a dumb reason to pass on a player it just makes no sense

Yeah, but didn't Lapointe or someone come out and say that was a factor?

Yeah but then Montreal would have a huge freaking hole at RHD and a top pairing RHD is the hardest position to fill with 1C, so yeah, I’m ok with Montreal taking a swing at a potential top pairing RHD over yet another winger

It's a lot easier to find a Reinbacher caliber player in the 2nd/3rd round than it is to find a Michkov.

 

[Canadienna]

Not the Michkov thread dingbats

 

[Baksfamous112]

Yeah, but didn't Lapointe or someone come out and say that was a factor?


It's a lot easier to find a Reinbacher caliber player in the 2nd/3rd round than it is to find a Michkov.

Lmao sure yeah just like it’s easier to find a Nemec in the 2nd/3rd round than it is to find a Michkov.

Breaking news: It is not

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Lmao sure yeah just like it’s easier to find a Nemec in the 2nd/3rd round than it is to find a Michkov.

Breaking news: It is not

Yes, it is. Heck, we found Casey in the 2nd round in the same draft as Nemec and he looks like he may surpass Simon this year.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah, but didn't Lapointe or someone come out and say that was a factor?

Lapointe was asked if the Russian/contract issue was a factor and while he did say yes I got the impression that there were a few things about Michkov that Montreal didn't like.

Never said that they were right, but the contract thing just never made sense.

Reinbacher played all of last year in Europe and likely won't be a full timer till 25-26. Was that extra year that important to the habs that they were willing to pass over what they felt was the better player because of it?

I don't think Montreal had eyes on Michkov for a long time before the draft.

 

[AvatarAang]

Yeah but then Montreal would have a huge freaking hole at RHD and a top pairing RHD is the hardest position to fill with 1C, so yeah, I’m ok with Montreal taking a swing at a potential top pairing RHD over yet another winger

Wow habs fans are still trying to convince anyone that reinbacher > michkov

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

Again this is crap. It had nothing to do with his contract. A combination of not liking his character and feeling Reinbacher was the more valuable asset were the liklely reasons.

Wow habs fans are still trying to convince anyone that reinbacher > michkov

Reinbacher is likley the more valuable player if he can stay health but that is irrelevant. They presumably felt Michkov was a selfish player. Even if Michkov is putting up big points he may be a loser (like Huberdeau for example).

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Wow habs fans are still trying to convince anyone that reinbacher > michkov

Majority of us knew it was a bad pick at the time. At this point just hoping Reinbacher gets healthy and can be a stabilizing force for Hutson.

Demidov softens the blow though, he's so good.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

There's no need for retrospection. Everyone knew Michkov was a better prospect than Reinbacher at the time.

They should have taken Michkov and Demidov. Draft BPA that high in the draft.

Could not possibly agree more

 

[AvatarAang]

Reinbacher is likley the more valuable player if he can stay health but that is irrelevant. They presumably felt Michkov was a selfish player. Even if Michkov is putting up big points he may be a loser (like Huberdeau for example).

Wow now habs fans are making up imaginary scenarios. You think reinbacher > michkov because there’s a chance that michkov is a loser?

 

[MoneyManny]

Wow habs fans are still trying to convince anyone that reinbacher > michkov

Habs fan*

 

[MoneyManny]

Yeah I mean if you look back 2-3 years after a draft you can definitely find players that were picked later that you would have preferred instead of your pick but looking back two years ago, I still think Reinbacher was the right choice. Even now, he looked pretty decent against NHLer at 19 years old. It’s unfortunate he got injured but Montreal needed (and still need) to hit on a high-end RHD and Reinbacher is the only one in the pool that has the ability to fill that need.

You could argue that Montreal could have taken Michkov and then a D but again, Silayev, Dickinson and Buium are all LHD (we have no need for one) and Yakemchuk is redundant. We don’t necessarily have a need for a pure offensive minded D and to be honest, I prefer Demidov over Michkov


I’m sorry you regret not drafting Michkov but I personally don’t and it has nothing to do with cope. I’m not talking for all habs fan and perhaps you should do the same

Drafting solely by what the big club needs AT THE TIME OF THE DRAFT is a truly horrible doctrine and will often result in Kotkaniemis, Reinbachers, and lengthy rebuilds.

If we drafted Michkov instead and had absolutely no need for him, then right about now we could trade him for 3 Reinbachers.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Wow now habs fans are making up imaginary scenarios. You think reinbacher > michkov because there’s a chance that michkov is a loser?

Consider the source of the comment

Drafting solely by what the big club needs AT THE TIME OF THE DRAFT is a truly horrible doctrine and will often result in Kotkaniemis, Reinbachers, and lengthy rebuilds.

If we drafted Michkov instead and had absolutely no need for him, then right about now we could trade him for 3 Reinbachers.

No need for a player of Michkov’s caliber.
Hilarious

 

[Baksfamous112]

Wow habs fans are still trying to convince anyone that reinbacher > michkov

I genuinely could not care less if Michkov becomes a star just like you probably don’t give a flying duck if Boldy become a 90 points player and the guy you drafted over him is playing for another team.

Just because I still like Reinbacher and still think he has top pairing potential doesn’t mean I think he’s better than Michkov as a player. He is a bigger need though

 

[Baksfamous112]

Yes, it is. Heck, we found Casey in the 2nd round in the same draft as Nemec and he looks like he may surpass Simon this year.

That’s a very bold statement but you do you. I hope you can at least understand why your team went for Nemec instead of the more talented player in Cooley.

I’m not sure why it is so hard to understand for some people that team needs at key positions can make or break a contending team