F Filip Zadina - Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL (2018, 6th, DET)

[The Zetterberg Era]

I don't mind Zadina saying that stuff. But Veleno chirping is just downright comical.

I heard from people I trust that he was going to slid down the board but in a lot of ways Veleno slide was worse though not completely surprising. Also, nobody made a secret out of why, he doesn't have plus offense. To a kid that just finished top 10 in QMJHL scoring and third in the league in assists.... Well that has to be pretty startling to hear.

I guess it depends but there were a lot of talking heads limiting Veleno's potential on draft night. I am sure he has heard it from some people and it has to be pretty motivating to him.

It fits what we were told about the Wings liking these guys. They are pretty driven. Again that is probably important in terms of Larkin, Rasmussen, Zadina, Veleno being very driven hockey junkies. There is some losing in the future and they need to come out the other side of it. That is one of the things the Wings like about them, they think they will and might just get even a little better because of their drive to get away from losing. Now they could be wrong, but I at least see the narrative there in terms of what they are attempting.

 

[Tatar Shots]

I don't mind Zadina saying that stuff. But Veleno chirping is just downright comical.

That is chirping to you? All he said was that he wants to prove that he is a good player. After sliding far on Friday night and all the talk about him not being talented enough, stating you want to prove everyone wrong is not bad at all

 

[Boxscore]

I think it's fantastic that Zadina wants to score against the teams who passed on him. Now he just needs to do it... and I think he will.

 

[le_sean]

I think it's fantastic that Zadina wants to score against the teams who passed on him. Now he just needs to do it... and I think he will.

You make it sound like it’s difficult to score against Montreal and Ottawa.

 

[Bench]

He seems like a rink rat energetic guy. He has confidence, really with where the Wings will be when he first makes them he is going to need that self-belief. They have some bumpy years that he is likely to see a part of here.

One of the most classic draft decisions this century was the 49ers passing on Aaron Rodgers because he was "too arrogant and cocky." Whoops.

We all love the class acts of Yzerman and Lidstrom. How could you not? But let's not forget the swagger of Shanahan and Chelios. Or Mike Babcock being described as "a little on the cocky side" by owner Ilitch. And of course the Wings' most formidable rivals, players like Forsberg and Roy, with chips on their shoulders the size of the Rocky Mountains.

Young Zadina could be another punk that flames out like so many before him. Sure. And some here will laugh at him. Fair enough. But damn, I think we have enough examples in professional sports to know those "obnoxious" and "immature" kids can grow into some tremendous players. And in the case of guys like Ed Belfour, I'm not sure they ever grew up. I love this quote about him:

“Eddie had a chip on his shoulder, and in a positive way,” offers the great Blackhawks broadcaster Pat Foley. “Maybe it was because he was overlooked by everybody in the draft, which is amazing when you think about it. I mean, he won the NCAA championship at the University of North Dakota and played with Canada’s national team. When he settled in with the Blackhawks, he never played two bad games in a row. If he was off one night, he would come back the next game and be terrific. And he was the ultimate competitor.

“One night in Detroit, he covers a puck with his glove. Bob Probert of the Red Wings skates by the crease after the whistle and knees Eddie in the head. Eddie gets up, makes a beeline for the corner, winds up with his blocker and hits Probert with the waffle iron as hard as he can. Punches the toughest guy in the league right in the face. That was Eddie.”

 

[WingsMJN2965]

One of the most classic draft decisions this century was the 49ers passing on Aaron Rodgers because he was "too arrogant and cocky." Whoops.

And then they employed a side show like Kaepernick... Well done.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

People getting upset about his comments apparently forget that Datsyuk was considered one of the most humble payers in the league and still had some zingers.



... F*** I miss that guy.

 

[93LEAFS]

One of the most classic draft decisions this century was the 49ers passing on Aaron Rodgers because he was "too arrogant and cocky." Whoops.

We all love the class acts of Yzerman and Lidstrom. How could you not? But let's not forget the swagger of Shanahan and Chelios. Or Mike Babcock being described as "a little on the cocky side" by owner Ilitch. And of course the Wings' most formidable rivals, players like Forsberg and Roy, with chips on their shoulders the size of the Rocky Mountains.

Young Zadina could be another punk that flames out like so many before him. Sure. And some here will laugh at him. Fair enough. But damn, I think we have enough examples in professional sports to know those "obnoxious" and "immature" kids can grow into some tremendous players. And in the case of guys like Ed Belfour, I'm not sure they ever grew up. I love this quote about him:

Because this story about Eddie is so good, I had to look it up for the Youtube footage. I now bring that Youtube footage to this thread and hope it amuses you, as much as it does me. I also love how Bob McGill is fighting him, who is now a mainstay on Leafs TV, which makes it slightly more comical for me.

 

[Mrb1p]

It’s borderline obnoxious these kids saying teams are going to regret passing on them and he’s gonna fill their net with goals....shows the immaturity. Noah Dobson ain’t saying stuff like that, be humble and proud.

Wasnt Eichel saying he thinks hes better than McD and blabla?

 

[schnapshot]

Wasnt Eichel saying he thinks hes better than McD and blabla?

Yup. And Laine said he was better than Matthews. And Ho-Sang said he was going to be the best player in the draft... Happens a lot.

 

[LarKing]

It’s borderline obnoxious these kids saying teams are going to regret passing on them and he’s gonna fill their net with goals....shows the immaturity. Noah Dobson ain’t saying stuff like that, be humble and proud.

This post is borderline obnoxious.

 

[DRW204]

Love the "prove people wrong" / "me against the world" attitude. Many prospects across different sports have said similar things or have showcased similar attitude to being taken later in drafts. Now he has to prove his words which will be good for the Wings' sake lol

 

[Boxscore]

They. Gave. Him. Number. 11. Right. From. Jump.

Wings are happy af.

 

[Thebesthockey]

Development Camp: his shot is deadly accurate
easily best sniper of the draft
NHL bound 2018/19

 

[Patrik Barkov]

This post is borderline obnoxious.

Not even borderline

 

[Cenzhin]

They. Gave. Him. Number. 11. Right. From. Jump.

Wings are happy af.

When they allow you to wear Cleary's number you know that they think you're the second coming.

 

[Mrb1p]

Development Camp: his shot is deadly accurate
easily best sniper of the draft
NHL bound 2018/19

This was always evident. Hes in a elite class of shooters with Svechnikov Boqvist and Wahlstrom.

 

[Thebesthockey]

This was always evident. Hes in a elite class of shooters with Svechnikov Boqvist and Wahlstrom.

the point is
should have been 3rd overall hands down no discussion

good on detroit

 

[Mrb1p]

the point is
should have been 3rd overall hands down no discussion

good on detroit

Only if you draft for immediate results.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Only if you draft for immediate results.

I can assure you that nobody is this excited about picking Zadina because of immediate results. They are excited by the potential of having a player who could be a 30+, 40+ goal guy, year in year out. There's a better chance that Kotkaniemi never exceeds what Larkin has already become than there is of Zadina never becoming more than a depth scorer.

The Wings needed an injection of something elite, be it playmaking, scoring, or defense, doesn't matter. After Dahlin and Svechnikov, there were 3 players slated in the top 10 with an elite component of their game: Hughes' skating, Wahlstrom's shot, and Zadina's scoring ability (won't limit this to his shot). Zadina was best overall player with the best elite component to his game, so the pick was obvious.

 

[jfhabs]

Good on Detroit. I though the habs would draft Zadina, but they gambled on a younger player who fits the organisational need at center. Still think Zadina will become atleast a second line sniper in the nhl in the next few years.

 

[Mrb1p]

I can assure you that nobody is this excited about picking Zadina because of immediate results. They are excited by the potential of having a player who could be a 30+, 40+ goal guy, year in year out. There's a better chance that Kotkaniemi never exceeds what Larkin has already become than there is of Zadina never becoming more than a depth scorer.

The Wings needed an injection of something elite, be it playmaking, scoring, or defense, doesn't matter. After Dahlin and Svechnikov, there were 3 players slated in the top 10 with an elite component of their game: Hughes' skating, Wahlstrom's shot, and Zadina's scoring ability (won't limit this to his shot). Zadina was best overall player with the best elite component to his game, so the pick was obvious.

Hes still a winger with little offensive impact and a one trick poney. Hes gonna score 30 im pretty sure, like 99.9 sure, but I still wouldve been mad to get another Pacioretty at 3, thats not how you build a team. All it does is take you from bottom feeder to bubble.

Also, youre sleeping on Boqvist if you dont think his shooting ability isnt elite and on par with the others, kid is gonna score 20 year in and out. Dobsons skating is elite too, and his ability to gain the zone is unrivaled in the draft, not even Dahlin touches it, IMO. Kotkaniemis anticipation is also an elite tool.

Zadina is not a better prospect than any of the real top 10 (IE not Tkachuk, Bouchard and Hayton)

 

[raymond23]

Hes still a winger with little offensive impact and a one trick poney. Hes gonna score 30 im pretty sure, like 99.9 sure, but I still wouldve been mad to get another Pacioretty at 3, thats not how you build a team. All it does is take you from bottom feeder to bubble.

Also, youre sleeping on Boqvist if you dont think his shooting ability isnt elite and on par with the others, kid is gonna score 20 year in and out. Dobsons skating is elite too, and his ability to gain the zone is unrivaled in the draft, not even Dahlin touches it, IMO. Kotkaniemis anticipation is also an elite tool.

Zadina is not a better prospect than any of the real top 10 (IE not Tkachuk, Bouchard and Hayton)

Zadina projects to be a much different player than Patches IMO. If he reaches that level I think most of us will be happy.

There are plenty of ways to build a good team and the Wings are just getting started. Adding a dynamic winger is not a negative in any sense.

Interesting take on the top prospects from the draft. Thing is, there are plenty of other people with the opposite opinion. I'm not sure where I stand, but only time will tell.

 

[Mrb1p]

Zadina projects to be a much different player than Patches IMO. If he reaches that level I think most of us will be happy.

There are plenty of ways to build a good team and the Wings are just getting started. Adding a dynamic winger is not a negative in any sense.

Id say he might have even less impact than Pacioretty but anyhow, similar level.

And not its not bad, just like Tkachuk is not bad either, but when you have the chance to land a 1D, its not a move id make.

 

[raymond23]

Id say he might have even less impact than Pacioretty but anyhow, similar level.

And not its not bad, just like Tkachuk is not bad either, but when you have the chance to land a 1D, its not a move id make.

I see your point. The Wings should have plenty of other chances to draft a 1D, so jumping on an elite winger who fell in your lap is okay in my books.