F Adam Fantilli - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2023 Draft)

[Zaddy]

So unless my calculations are off if Fantilli finishes the season at 2 PPG he'd be tied for 10th all-time among U19 players in NCAA when it comes to PPG. If we take that to the 21st century it'd look like this:

1. Adam Fantilli, 2.0 PPG
2. Jack Eichel, 1.78 PPG
3. Jaden Schwartz, 1.57 PPG
4. Zach Parise, 1.56 PPG
5. Michael Cammalleri, 1.45 PPG
6. Clayton Keller, 1.45 PPG
7. Brock Boeser, 1.43 PPG

Cammalleri didn't do it in his freshman season though like the others so I guess he could be crossed off the list.

Will be interesting to see how he keeps pace, if he finishes around Eichel's number that'd be pretty impressive but also not really out of line with my expectations for him.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

So unless my calculations are off if Fantilli finishes the season at 2 PPG he'd be tied for 10th all-time among U19 players in NCAA when it comes to PPG. If we take that to the 21st century it'd look like this:

1. Adam Fantilli, 2.0 PPG
2. Jack Eichel, 1.78 PPG
3. Jaden Schwartz, 1.57 PPG
4. Zach Parise, 1.56 PPG
5. Michael Cammalleri, 1.45 PPG
6. Clayton Keller, 1.45 PPG
7. Brock Boeser, 1.43 PPG

Cammalleri didn't do it in his freshman season though like the others so I guess he could be crossed off the list.

Will be interesting to see how he keeps pace, if he finishes around Eichel's number that'd be pretty impressive but also not really out of line with my expectations for him.

Jesus Christ that's impressive company.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

I said many times ahead of the 2022 draft that I’d take Fantilli 1st.

You also said many times that Vilardi was waiver fodder. Everything remains to be seen.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

So unless my calculations are off if Fantilli finishes the season at 2 PPG he'd be tied for 10th all-time among U19 players in NCAA when it comes to PPG. If we take that to the 21st century it'd look like this:

1. Adam Fantilli, 2.0 PPG
2. Jack Eichel, 1.78 PPG
3. Jaden Schwartz, 1.57 PPG
4. Zach Parise, 1.56 PPG
5. Michael Cammalleri, 1.45 PPG
6. Clayton Keller, 1.45 PPG
7. Brock Boeser, 1.43 PPG

Cammalleri didn't do it in his freshman season though like the others so I guess he could be crossed off the list.

Will be interesting to see how he keeps pace, if he finishes around Eichel's number that'd be pretty impressive but also not really out of line with my expectations for him.

I think he ends up well below the 2.0PPG mark - and we have been beginning to start seeing it in the past 4 games against better competition.

Last 4 games against Western Michigan and Penn State:

4+1 = 5 points

Previous 6 games against BU, Lindenwood and Lake Superior St. :

5+10= 15 points

I say he ends up between 1.3 and 1.45PPG.

Still one hell of a freshman season.

 

[Zaddy]

I think he ends up well below the 2.0PPG mark - and we have been beginning to start seeing it in the past 4 games against better competition.

Last 4 games against Western Michigan and Penn State:

4+1 = 5 points

Previous 6 games against BU, Lindenwood and Lake Superior St. :

5+10= 15 points

I say he ends up between 1.3 and 1.45PPG.

Still one hell of a freshman season.

Yeah obviously he's going to lose pace as the season goes on but the question is how much the drop-off will be. I'm more optimistic than you and think he can be somewhere between 1.5-1.6 PPG quite comfortably. Eichel is probably out of reach but I still wouldn't put it past him with his talent and skillset to be up there with him and I think he has a very good shot at finishing around ~1.6 PPG and beating both Schwartz and Parise, but maybe I'm too optimistic, we'll see.

Say he plays 40 games this season, to finish at 1.6 PPG he'd need to score 44 points in his next 30 games for a 1,46 PPG pace. For him to finish at 1.5 PPG he'd need to score 40 points in his next 30 games for a 1.33 PPG pace, which really doesn't seem unreasonable at all and probably on the low-end IMO. But I'm also a huge Fantilli fan so...

 

[ponder]

I think he ends up well below the 2.0PPG mark - and we have been beginning to start seeing it in the past 4 games against better competition.

Last 4 games against Western Michigan and Penn State:

4+1 = 5 points

Previous 6 games against BU, Lindenwood and Lake Superior St. :

5+10= 15 points

I say he ends up between 1.3 and 1.45PPG.

Still one hell of a freshman season.

Worth noting, if he plays 40 games (he could EASILY play less), and puts up 5 points every 4 games from here on out, he’d still finish at 1.44 PPG. I think 1.3 is unlikely, I’m expecting him to finish more in the 1.4-1.7 PPG range.

Also, BU are decent competition too. So far he’s played 6 games against legit competition, putting up 9 points, and 4 games against terrible competition, putting up 11 points. It’ll be basically legit competition from here on out, but wouldn’t surprise me if he can maintain ~1.5 PPG for the rest of the season, which would put him at 1.63 PPG if he plays 40 games.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Worth noting, if he plays 40 games (he could EASILY play less), and puts up 5 points every 4 games from here on out, he’d still finish at 1.44 PPG. I think 1.3 is unlikely, I’m expecting him to finish more in the 1.4-1.7 PPG range.

Also, BU are decent competition too. So far he’s played 6 games against legit competition, putting up 9 points, and 4 games against terrible competition, putting up 11 points. It’ll be basically legit competition from here on out, but wouldn’t surprise me if he can maintain ~1.5 PPG for the rest of the season, which would put him at 1.63 PPG if he plays 40 games.

That BU game I watched was not solid competition. Michigan had a 5 v 3 power play on two consecutive 5 minute majors. Fantilli got like two or three points on that power play alone and he didn’t facilitate the scoring.

I like Fantilli, but his points are absolutely inflated. At this point, I don’t think he’s looked anywhere close to how good Eichel looked his freshman year (which was one of the greatest NCAA seasons of all time)

 

[bigdog16]

That BU game I watched was not solid competition. Michigan had a 5 v 3 power play on two consecutive 5 minute majors. Fantilli got like two or three points on that power play alone and he didn’t facilitate the scoring.

I like Fantilli, but his points are absolutely inflated. At this point, I don’t think he’s looked anywhere close to how good Eichel looked his freshman year (which was one of the greatest NCAA seasons of all time)

Eichel during his freshmen year was multiple tiers above what Fantilli has shown thus far. People forget Eichel's team around him was garbage and he still carried them to the national championship game. Fantilli is surrounded by some of the top players in the nation. The two are not comparable

 

[flyerslducks]

Eichel during his freshmen year was multiple tiers above what Fantilli has shown thus far. People forget Eichel's team around him was garbage and he still carried them to the national championship game. Fantilli is surrounded by some of the top players in the nation. The two are not comparable

Still nothing to take away from what he is doing (not saying you are). where would you have him in the ‘15 draft?

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Eichel during his freshmen year was multiple tiers above what Fantilli has shown thus far. People forget Eichel's team around him was garbage and he still carried them to the national championship game. Fantilli is surrounded by some of the top players in the nation. The two are not comparable

Believe me, I’m not saying they are. But, I see a lot of people compare and even say that Fantilli is better than Bedard or Michkov. Just trying to regulate expectations for this guy lol

 

[bigdog16]

Still nothing to take away from what he is doing (not saying you are). where would you have him in the ‘15 draft?

It’s tough to say, especially in hindsight. People forget how good of prospects those top 10 in ‘15 were. Probably anywhere from 3-8 though. Werenski put up 25 in 35 from the back end in his draft year at Michigan and went 8th.

 

[QJL]

Here are the prospects I would’ve ranked above Fantilli pre-draft (as it stands today) over the last decade:

2023: Bedard, Michkov
2022:
2021: Power
2020: Lafreniere
2019: Hughes, Kakko
2018: Dahlin
2017:
2016: Matthews
2015: McDavid, Eichel
2014:

 

[flyerslducks]

Here are the prospects I would’ve ranked above Fantilli pre-draft (as it stands today) over the last decade:

2023: Bedard, Michkov
2022:
2021: Power
2020: Lafreniere
2019: Hughes, Kakko
2018: Dahlin
2017:
2016: Matthews
2015: McDavid, Eichel
2014:

I think he could’ve been ranked higher than kakko and laf due to position

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Here are the prospects I would’ve ranked above Fantilli pre-draft (as it stands today) over the last decade:

2023: Bedard, Michkov
2022:
2021: Power
2020: Lafreniere
2019: Hughes, Kakko
2018: Dahlin
2017:
2016: Matthews
2015: McDavid, Eichel
2014:

In 2020 likely take Byfield and Stützle over him

IN 2021 I wouldn’t take anyone over him he’d go first.

In 2016 I wouldn’t take him over Laine.

2015 it would have been a battle for a top-5 pick alongside Hanifin, Marner and Strome.

 

[QJL]

In 2020 likely take Byfield and Stützle over him

IN 2021 I wouldn’t take anyone over him he’d go first.

In 2016 I wouldn’t take him over Laine.

2015 it would have been a battle for a top-5 pick alongside Hanifin, Marner and Strome.

All these are valid opinions, even if not mine. Except Strome who should never have been ranked near the top 5 with his skating. I believe I had him #17 on draft day.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

All these are valid opinions, even if not mine. Except Strome who should never have been ranked near the top 5 with his skating. I believe I had him #17 on draft day.

I think if I followed the draft as much as I do today - I would have shared the same opinion on Strome at the time too.

 

[Breakers]

It was a weird game.
ND challenged him for a check to the head, and replay agreed, gets 5 minute major but no GM.
They challenged him again, and refs disagreed, Michigan turns around challenges for head shot 3 minutes later. After they got it right earlier.
They were about to challenge a third time as well.

Naruto caught on hit mic saying “this a franking joke”

Went off in the post game saying about how weak it is for a team who is afraid of a freshman

I mean like 70% of the game was PP’s.

 

[avsfan09]

It’s a good league, teams are coached well and I’d say play is quite structured as compared to other leagues comprised of the same age group. It has a damn good track record for providing good to great NHLers and contributing to the ranks of the WHL, and given the numbers it draws from, I think it has an excellent record in and always provides very competitive teams to national tournaments.

Yager himself is powerful and smart in all aspects of the game. Exudes skill but also strong leadership and effort in all areas and situations. It’s tough to give player comparisons at this age. I’d probably give Bedard the edge right now because, as I mentioned earlier, his package of speed + puck skills + incredible shooting ability + aggression on the puck pretty much guarantees he will be a star in the NHL someday, barring unforeseen developments. But Yager is excellent in his own right and from what I have heard, is a very real challenger for first pick in this upcoming WHL draft. Exceptional Status is a possibility for either or both IMO.

Sounds a bit like a center version of Landeskog from what you are describing. Which is an awesome player for anyone to have.

 

[Torts]

It was a weird game.
ND challenged him for a check to the head, and replay agreed, gets 5 minute major but no GM.
They challenged him again, and refs disagreed, Michigan turns around challenges for head shot 3 minutes later. After they got it right earlier.
They were about to challenge a third time as well.

Naruto caught on hit mic saying “this a franking joke”

Went off in the post game saying about how weak it is for a team who is afraid of a freshman

I mean like 70% of the game was PP’s.

I'm almost certainly using "franking joke" from here on out. LOL!

 

[Bonin21]

It'll be a good test for him this week against Faber/Johnson/Lacombe/Chesley.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

It'll be a good test for him this week against Faber/Johnson/Lacombe/Chesley.

How is Chesley playing?

Not many points, but if I have it right he’s playing as a third pair guy without advantageous situations. Tough as a freshman to walk onto the best team in the country and play big minutes over established players.

 

[Bonin21]

How is Chesley playing?

Not many points, but if I have it right he’s playing as a third pair guy without advantageous situations. Tough as a freshman to walk onto the best team in the country and play big minutes over established players.

As well as you could ask for from an 18 year old. He's a bit like Lindgren at the same age. I'd say Lindgren was just slightly better.

Next year it will be the Chesley and Rinzel show on D.

 

[Bonin21]

It'll be a good test for him this week against Faber/Johnson/Lacombe/Chesley.

Out sick tonight. Bummer. Michigan is decimated by illness and the Gophers are without their starting goalie and a top 3C.

 

[MardyBum]

Out sick tonight. Bummer. Michigan is decimated by illness and the Gophers are without their starting goalie and a top 3C.

Michigan's third string goalie is also playing forward tonight apparently lol.

 

[Breakers]

they have a player in the ICU from the virus

Truscott was in the hospital for the same virus.