Lmao I get power has struggled at times defenvisley but wtf are you smoking thinking he’s ’barely A top 4 dman’. Whatever it is, send a bag my way
Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread
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Lmao I get power has struggled at times defenvisley but wtf are you smoking thinking he’s ’barely A top 4 dman’. Whatever it is, send a bag my way
Habs Halifax
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I tend to agree with this.
Power is a tough one to judge but he has a lot of maturing to go.
Byram is putting up solid points this year so fans will be gullible to it. Some will go overboard with it. Byram's offensive ability was never in question. His ability to provide stable D was. I do think he has improved in that area but lets not be fools thinking that he does not have to improve more in that area.
Habs Halifax
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Questions for Sabres fans...
Are any of you worried that if you trade Cozens/Byram (lets say) for EP40.... Pettersson does not want to stay and asks for a trade a year later but has a NMC by then? I'm guessing but I think you rather not have another Eichel situation?
I guess management can find out if Pettersson wants to be in Buffalo before you do the trade. Us fans can't find that out
Are any of you worried that if you trade Cozens/Byram (lets say) for EP40.... Pettersson does not want to stay and asks for a trade a year later but has a NMC by then? I'm guessing but I think you rather not have another Eichel situation?
I guess management can find out if Pettersson wants to be in Buffalo before you do the trade. Us fans can't find that out
I do think byram wants to be more of the guy somewhere although being a #1PP guy is going to be tough as most teams have that guy already or drafted, but he could be a really good #2 somewhere. He definitley has improved his play in his own end a ton and is actually one of buffalo’s better defenders at that. But yeah I do think there’s still a lot to grow with him. I do think someone will get a really good deal with him because I cant see him signing for much more than 6-7M? Just because he doesn’t play first PP here, his stats won’t look as inflated as it might if he did. With the cap going up I think getting a player like that a long term 6.5Mish deal would be an absolute steal for whoever it is
I mean at this point where I’m at is, they’re going to continue to suck if they do nothing and guys will still want to leave to play elsewhere. May as well try to shake things up. It cant get any worse I don’t think lol
Habs Halifax
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Thanks for the context and how it looks from the Sabres fans.
Another question... I seen someone post a financial issue for the Sabres owner. Said he was cash strapped. Any truth to that? Because Pettersson has a $10M signing bonus due in July and that is after the NMC kicks in.
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He is a billionaire and has a lot of money. But it is a weird situation, sometimes it seems like he is greedy and petty, but also he pays his players, they sign UFA and try (according to the GM) to add other players. I think he does not want to pay guys who leave, when ROR left he seemed not to want to pay him a bonus, but he can pay a guy who comes to the team. Damn, he insisted they give Skinner a 9 million a year extension.
I don’t think he’s cash strapped at all to be honest. He’s a really weird owner. He’d rather pocket the remaining cap not being used (IE Skinner buyout) than to all in on the sabres right now when they’ve been in limbo and he has the Bills success to carry him. I don’t think the Sabres will ever be competitive with Pegula In charge here. He’s content with one of the teams being good and the other taking a back seat. I think he’d have no problem bringing a guy like that in, as they’re paying skinner to not be here. But he’s just a terrible owner. Only hires first time GM’s that won’t go against his word. He basically forced botterill to sign the skinner contract when he didn’t want to. Lafontaine signing and resigning randomly because he didn’t see eye to eye with the owner and it wasn’t the job he was promised. Just so many things. But yeah I don’t think he’s cash strapped per say, he’s more of just not going all in on both franchises because the man has money.
He REALLY lucked out when it came to the bills because he still went first time hires in beane and McDermott but they told him he wasn’t involved in anything football related where as he wants to tinker in the hockey team. He wants to duplicate the success of picking these first time guys and them working out and him looking like a genious but it’s not happening
Djp
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His wealth is in oil and gas and land owning. If price of oil crashes it would affect his wealth. Land ownership can be harder to liquidate
As I said elsewhere. Hes moreof a hockey fan being like dan snyder who was nfl Washington owner who got more involved in gm stuff
With nfl hes not as involved with being s gm si GM has mire freedom on trades and player moves
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Again, if I was betting, I’d suggest that the scale of the rift has been massively overblown as well. Lots of reporters blow smoke with little to show for it re: Vancouver, the teams poor record is easily attributable to injuries to key players and a thin blue line, Miller’s absence is more likely to be due to a personal matter than anything else, etc. Not saying that there isn’t a conflict between the guys, but when you dig into it there really doesn’t seem to be a lot of there there.
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6' 6" 22 year old dman averaging 22 minutes a game is "barely a top 4 dman"
i can see you are a glass half empty kind of guy.
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Yes, you got Byram for aCozens byram and another piece
not sure why your laughing, Cozens is struggling and Byram is an exotic long contract with a history of concussions who was just acquired for a mediocre second line center on an expiring contract.Cozens byram and another piece
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Pettersson has played 7 seasons including this season. He had one 100 point season. In the other 6 seasons, over 82 games he averages 32 goals and 77 points. That's what Nick Suzuki put up last year. I think he's a a top 10 center in the league but closer to 10 than to 8. I haven't read this thread at all, but just some food for thought in terms of value.
IF he ever gets traded (he shouldn't), the package will look like the Eichel, Carter, Richards package. I don't think he'll get the Tkachuk package. Tkachuk was 3 years younger when he got traded and his most recent season was the 100 point season while for Pettersson he's 2 years removed from his 100pt season.
IF he ever gets traded (he shouldn't), the package will look like the Eichel, Carter, Richards package. I don't think he'll get the Tkachuk package. Tkachuk was 3 years younger when he got traded and his most recent season was the 100 point season while for Pettersson he's 2 years removed from his 100pt season.
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Because every time Miller tries to assist, Pettersson steals the spotlight and scores!
Canucks fan here to chime in. I think EP will enjoy not being in the limelight of Vancouver. He'd improve the team a lot and likely be a major part of a playoff team by next season.
Something like Power + Cozen as a base for EP40 makes sense for both teams. We get a little weaker on our 2c, but scoring usually isn't our problem. Defense is, and Power stabilizes our back end with Hronek and Hughes.
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Potential 100 Point Centre for a 60 point winger, where do I sign?
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Im not sure how you can, with a straight face, use “potential” in a description of your player but not for the player who is 5 years younger lol
Friedman says that Vancouver wants Schneider in deal but NYR said no . I don’t get it. NYR should take it and run!
www.hockeytraderumours.com
Elliotte Friedman Drops Bombshell Regarding J.T. Miller and Rangers Trade Rumors
The Vancouver Canucks appear ready to pull the trigger on a J.T. Miller trade, and now it appears talks with the New York Rangers are still ongoing.
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The newest reports that Boston is making a package for Pettersson is the one that makes the least sense.
The Boston Bruins are not trading past, and the Boston Bruins are not trading, McAvoy.
So what in the blue moon with Boston have to get a guy like Pettersson?
Because Carlo, Freddy, and the first rounder is not gonna get it done.
They don’t have anything else that I’m interested in
The Boston Bruins are not trading past, and the Boston Bruins are not trading, McAvoy.
So what in the blue moon with Boston have to get a guy like Pettersson?
Because Carlo, Freddy, and the first rounder is not gonna get it done.
They don’t have anything else that I’m interested in
Well Pettersson's already done it. I guess he has the "potential" do it again.
Slaf can be a PPG guy but needs to prove it first and him being younger doesn't outweigh the additional value Pettersson brings for being a center (and one that's good defensively, at that).
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