Management Eugene Melnyk - Lawsuits, rants and more... Part 5 (YOUS)

[BatherSeason]

Yes - Phillips said he chose to quit. There is also some smoke around his disinterest for the promotion which is more much evidence than you suggesting Phillips is protecting Melynk after he allegedly fired him or whatever.

you are trying wayyyyy to hard to lynch Melynk. Give him time - he may do it again, but in the meantime don’t make crap up.

Please direct us to this fictitious smoke.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Yes - Phillips said he chose to quit. There is also some smoke around his disinterest for the promotion which is more much evidence than you suggesting Phillips is protecting Melynk after he allegedly fired him or whatever.

He chose not to be "re-assigned", not quite the same, nor has it been referred to as a "promotion", so that's you adding that in there as hyperbole for effect.

If you were say a Lawyer and told you were being re-assigned to be the receptionist, you wouldn't accept either.

Absurd example? Surely, but goes to show it the wording is not evidence of much.

 

[Sweatred]

Please direct us to this fictitious smoke.

read the story yourself - take off your blinders.

 

[Sweatred]

He chose not to be "re-assigned", not quite the same, nor has it been referred to as a "promotion", so that's you adding that in there as hyperbole for effect.

If you were say a Lawyer and told you were being re-assigned to be the receptionist, you wouldn't accept either.

Absurd example? Surely, but goes to show it the wording is not evidence of much.

Do you think Phillips wants a desk job to ride out this pandemic summer with no charity to run ? Come on … it’s not that complicated.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Do you think Phillips wants a desk job to ride out this pandemic summer with no charity to run ? Come on … it’s not that complicated.

So you would like me to make an assumption, but specifically the one you would like made?

Glad we're finally on the same page here.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Yes - Phillips said on the record he chose to quit. There is also some smoke around his disinterest for the promotion which is more much evidence than you suggesting Phillips is protecting Melynk after he allegedly fired him or whatever.

you are trying wayyyyy to hard to lynch Melynk. Give him time - he may do it again, but in the meantime don’t make crap up.

Well, hold on. The tweet from Ian said nothing at all about CHOOSING to quit — merely that he'd handed in his resignation.



We only have a few tweets to go on, so you're making a massive assumption that hasn't been publicly confirmed here. Where did he ever say it was his choice?

 

[Sweatred]

Well, hold on. The tweet from Ian said nothing at all about CHOOSING to quit — merely that he'd handed in his resignation.



We only have a few tweets to go on, so you're making a massive assumption that hasn't been publicly confirmed here. Where did he ever say it was his choice?

ahhhh … it’s his choice to tender his resignation.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

ahhhh … it’s his choice to tender his resignation.

Where's the evidence that he wasn't compelled to do it, though? I'm not saying he didn't, I'm just asking the question. No need to get so defensive.

 

[Sweatred]

Where's the evidence that he wasn't compelled to do it, though? I'm not saying he didn't, I'm just asking the question. No need to get so defensive.

All we know is Phillips choice to step away vs accepting whatever reassignment Melynk graciously offered. No idea what that looks like but Phillips doesn’t need a 9-5 desk job selling tickets or cold calling potential sponsors or whatever. I’m sure you can speculate why he may not be interested in that type of thing hence the resignation.

 

[Micklebot]

All we know is Phillips choice to step away vs accepting whatever reassignment Melynk graciously offered. No idea what that looks like but Phillips doesn’t need a 9-5 desk job selling tickets or cold calling potential sponsors or whatever. I’m sure you can speculate why he may not be interested in that type of thing hence the resignation.

That's possible but probably doesn't get Mendes writing a story that suggests the franchise managed to alienate him...

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

All we know is Phillips choice to step away vs accepting whatever reassignment Melynk graciously offered. No idea what that looks like but Phillips doesn’t need a 9-5 desk job selling tickets or cold calling potential sponsors or whatever. I’m sure you can speculate why he may not be interested in that type of thing hence the resignation.

Pro sports organizations don't offer former stalwarts 9-5 desk jobs selling tickets. Nor would that be a "gracious" offer. That's an insult if it were true.

Your scenario is even more Mickey Mouse bs than if they had just let him go.

 

[supsens]

That's possible but probably doesn't get Mendes writing a story that suggests the franchise managed to alienate him...

He is making suggestions about nothing with nothing to go off.
“Hey Chris why did you quit?”
“Hey Mendes my life choices are not for your profit mind your own business”

Hey I better type something to get clicks...

 

[Sweatred]

That's possible but probably doesn't get Mendes writing a story that suggests the franchise managed to alienate him...

I haven’t read the entire Mendes article - I don’t Subscribe - what was the quote about alienation

 

[BatherSeason]

He is making suggestions about nothing with nothing to go off.
“Hey Chris why did you quit?”
“Hey Mendes my life choices are not for your profit mind your own business”

Hey I better type something to get clicks...

We knew this was coming. First Phillips yesterday and now Mendes today. All too predictable. If everyone is so wrong about this, why wouldn't Melnyk want to get out there and explain what happened? Why is Boo Boo so quiet?

 

[Sweatred]

Pro sports organizations don't offer former stalwarts 9-5 desk jobs selling tickets. Nor would that be a "gracious" offer. That's an insult if it were true.

Your scenario is even more Mickey Mouse bs than if they had just let him go.

My point was me at to be taken as hyperbole - but even at best you assume the best they could offer would be some developmental assignment or a corporate sponsor roll. Either way you should be able to see why he passed.

the real problem here is a lack of revenue to do anything productive anyway.

Basically ottawa bankrupted this thing to the point it had to shut it’s doors.

 

[supsens]

We knew this was coming. First Phillips yesterday and now Mendes today. Nice work.

Lol I am going to use the word slander with no clue as to what it means

Please post 1 quote or 1 piece of actual information or facts posted by Mendes.
Than please explain what slander has taken place in regards to Mendes

 

[Sweatred]

Here’s is a comparison to the oilers - the 50/50 pot on may 24 alone was $1.6 million … that’s about 16x more revenue than the Sens entire seasons. That makes it a lot easier to run a charity and pay Weir than the pennies the People of Ottawa graciously donated.
Edmonton Oilers

Here is the game by game … it’s wild the revenue they acquired.
Winning Numbers

I’m trying to make sense of it … it’s crazy at first glance.

 

[Yak]

The foundation has been run like a S%$t show obviously, so I am not surprised by this at all.

If I was Phillips I would not want my name associated with it anymore.

In regards to taking another position, why? He does need a job, he may have other things he wants to do with his life.

Let EM do whatever the hell he wants with it.

 

[Sweatred]

The foundation has been run like a S%$t show obviously, so I am not surprised by this at all.

If I was Phillips I would not want my name associated with it anymore.

In regards to taking another position, why? He does need a job, he may have other things he wants to do with his life.

Let EM do whatever the hell he wants with it.

Was it weir or Phillips that ran it like a SS?

 

[Yak]

Was it weir or Phillips that ran it like a SS?

So Weir and Phillips ran the whole Foundation, sounds like a lack of resources. No blame to either of them cause they got no support it seems.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

My point was me at to be taken as hyperbole - but even at best you assume the best they could offer would be some developmental assignment or a corporate sponsor roll. Either way you should be able to see why he passed.

the real problem here is a lack of revenue to do anything productive anyway.

Basically ottawa fans bankrupted this thing to the point it had to shut it’s doors.

I was only using the words you provided to try to piece together the assumptions you were making on your end. We can't assume a stupid "ticket sales" job was offered any more than a respectable position for a former player of his ilk was offered.

The rest of what you've said is just your repeated mantra's as if it is fact that just serves to bring down the quality of this thread. No point discussing that misrepresentation of the circumstances colored by your bias.

I mean, reading this thread, its quite obvious the positions being taken. Some would like to give the org and Melnyk the benefit of the doubt and wait until infallible evidence to the contrary is presented. Some of us give journalists, insiders, players, employees, etc. the benefit of the doubt, or at least some of them. I feel comfortable with the latter given the track record of this being like dispute #50 for Melnyk, but I do at least acknowledge that in this particular situation, there might not have been foul play.

 

[Micklebot]

I haven’t read the entire Mendes article - I don’t Subscribe - what was the quote about alienation

Most of it is in the tweet, there's a bit more in the full article

 

[Micklebot]

He is making suggestions about nothing with nothing to go off.
“Hey Chris why did you quit?”
“Hey Mendes my life choices are not for your profit mind your own business”

Hey I better type something to get clicks...

Seems you did a lot more assumptions with nothing to go off than Mendes did, he isn't the type to make shit up for clicks,

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Seems you did a lot more assumptions with nothing to go off than Mendes did, he isn't the type to make shit up for clicks,

Even after being called out as Bush League by Melnyk, he still kept his composure and seemed to keep it professional.

He seems like a pretty stand up guy in general.

 

[supsens]

Seems you did a lot more assumptions with nothing to go off than Mendes did, he isn't the type to make shit up for clicks,

Lol —Rumblings in the charitable sector...full of crap “insider” like attention grab
he has zero information zero quotes zero facts that he basically acusses the Sens of doing something bad to Phillips
yes it’s made up click bait nonsense