Management Eugene Melnyk - Lawsuits, rants and more... Part 5 (YOUS)

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Trying soooooo hard to paint a negative picture. Let’s wait for some
Evidence.

I'm not the media members out there putting this out, so perhaps they would be the ones to talk to.

I would also point out that I've said I acknowledge there might not have been foul play here and that the report should be taken with a grain of salt for now.

That said, i do consider Mendes a pretty solid, non click bait type likely with some solid contacts and I don't agree with just writing it off as nonsense from a "hack", especially with such a long track record of soured relationships for the accused.

 

[ianmendes]

Well unless he can provide 1 piece of evidence he is a hack.
If he can good for him but it should be in his story to begin with.

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

 

[DrSense]

So your saying he has more pressure and is committed to write something no matter what...
If he does not produce “news” or have anything to write he is in trouble..
They track the numbers of eyes on his stuff and if he does not perform he is done like dinner

Every member of the sports media has a cadence they need to produce content. In general, I feel Mendes is listening to the fan base and watching what is happening with the team, and reporting on this. I don't believe he has is own axe to grind or narrative he is trying to create at all. I don't always agree with his takes as part of his articles, but I definitely respect his approach and fairness, by and large. I find he actually skews a bit more positive than many members of the media when it comes to the Sens, although that has changed a bit maybe of late. Above all else, I find him fair. But really, I think that is more about the news and fan sentiment, than it is about Mendes creating something that is not there. The Phillips resignation, like it or not, is very real news given the manner in which he did so (lack of details). The story was created the the moment he silently stepped away without details.

 

[supsens]

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

The Sens budget sucks if you are going to write stories that damage their reputation and help suppress money you need to actually produce facts and reasons, expecting people to join in around the camp fire and listen after the damage is done might grab attention but it's far from honest and open.

All these people have the pitchforks out while hanging thier heads in shame with the injustice done to Mr Phillips, this is not a 'tune in later for more' type situation
This is also a real charity that may suffer long term so careless opinions and guess work without a full factual story are not cool they can hurt a lot of people that have nothing to do with hockey

You reach a lot of people and your words carry weight

 

[ianmendes]

The Sens budget sucks if you are going to write stories that damage their reputation and help suppress money you need to actually produce facts and reasons, expecting people to join in around the camp fire and listen after the damage is done might grab attention but it's far from honest and open.

All these people have the pitchforks out while hanging thier heads in shame with the injustice done to Mr Phillips, this is not a 'tune in later for more' type situation
This is also a real charity that may suffer long term so careless opinions and guess work without a full factual story are not cool they can hurt a lot of people that have nothing to do with hockey

You reach a lot of people and your words carry weight

I expect to see you in my Zoom session. Since you’ve got issues with my coverage. See you there.

 

[Alfie11]

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

Ian - you should know your work is very much respected by the greater portion of the fanbase. I may not always agree with some of your takes but I would never doubt your professionalism.

 

[supsens]

I expect to see you in my Zoom session. Since you’ve got issues with my coverage. See you there.

Not a chance

 

[Yak]

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

Thank you Ian! I understand that you want to be transparent as possible but you are just opening yourself to the internet trolls. Real fans of Senators respect your work, those fair weather fans that have jumped on board after a year of good hockey are the ones driving criticism. Keep up the good work and don't let the internet question your quality work ethic.

 

[Boud]

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

The reason some people are mad is very simple. Most of the fanbase here has been saying what you're saying for YEARS, and fans from other fanbases that follow what's going on have too. I'm sure you have your own opinion on things that goes much further than what you can even discuss in the media. I think for many years the team was given the benefit of the doubt by the local media and while many people here criticized what management/ownership was doing, the media remained mostly ''conservative'' in their criticism (Hi Brucey). So while the majority of the fanbase was criticizing, you had the other 10% who just seem to be ''fans of management'' and these guys could always fall back on ''there's no proof, nothing has been confirmed in the media''.

What you're seeing right now is the very vocal 10% of the fanbase that doesn't like that you're talking against the team because for years they argued nothing was wrong. Now someone reputable is going against their opinion, someone they cannot ignore. Don't worry about this, your focus is on telling the truth and certainly nobody can fault you for not being honest and truthful over the years. There will always be people like that no matter how honest and truthful you are.

for the rest of the fanbase, and the rest of NHL fans for that matter, you certainly are one of the most reliable sources of information regarding this Franchise.

 

[Tuna99]

Mendes out to fix everything, as he likes to do in his mind. Mendes Will “explain it”. Fellow media reporters jumping on board saluting his “courage” and showing their vailed d animosity to the “put your name on it” crowd.

boring Ottawa sports summer where the journalist become the subject because there is nothing more to talk about. It’s their favourite 2 weeks of the summer, they get to vent about how they “put their name on it” and show us all how much more they know about the rumours of the team. It’s them getting to talk about themselves instead of the team, they love it, and they put their name on it which makes them so proud

see you next summer for the exact same thing. Ottawa feels small town when things like this go down.

 

[Yak]

The amount of anger/hostility to my stuff lately is fascinating.

Check my Twitter from today with an offer to walk Sens fans thru media coverage of the team. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavour and hope some of my detractors take me up on the offer to have a open, honest and transparent conversation on the job of the media.

In reply to Ian's response.

I also work in the news media industry (not sports).

I have followed the Sens hardcore for 32 years, good and bad.

Working in the media industry, I feel like I have a educated response to Ian's comment and the situation.

1. As fan I have seen many writers trash the Sens for the good and bad. I have seen them trash them when called for. I have seen many kiss A$$ as well and avoided topics of conflict. I have seen many report many fake rumours (BG) and also some be a PR machine and say no bad in hopes of not angering the Sens. I also have seen some writers treat the Sens unfairly when it was not called for. I think most of Sens fans could probably pick out who these writers and reportors are actually.

2. In the news industry your creditably is everything! If you play to negative or positive people see right through it.

3. If you want to last long in the business your integrity is everything. Once upon a time a go click bait headlines kept you in the headlines. Now facts and correct reporting builds your following and resume.

4. No one has anything to gain reporting negativity about the Sens. However, sweeping news under the rug is like covering up the facts and in this day and age is never accepted.

5. The Sens management and owners are big boys and every decision they make is one they own, good or bad.

6. Personally, Ian is someone I have never met. I thought at first he was a bit of a spinster for the positive Sens talk. However I can see we can't always be throwing hardballs at the team and sometimes need to look for the positives.

7. Ian threw some hardballs and unjustified name calling at him was thrown his way. They were very soft compared to the average fan would have directed at the team.

8. I honestly believe that Ian has been the best and most truthful reporter/media person in the history of the Sens. No bull trade rumors, fake stories, untruthful reporting or a rumor monger looking for attention.

9. If their is one reporter/media for the Sens that does his job better then anyone else I would say it is , Ian. Specially now he is not affiliated with any company that would hold back his reporting/writing.

10. I have no skin in this at all ,other then being a long-term Sens fan and appreciation for quality journalistic values. From Bruce Firestone to EM , I have read it all. Ian has made his career on this team and the better they do and more positive stories the better but as a journalist you report the good and the bad. Losses or wins, good seasons or bad seasons, management miscues or wins, bad press or good.

Ian is the best Ottawa Senators writer/reporter in the history of the Sens! If you want a spinster their is always tons of them out there! I believe the truth is what I need to know whether I want to hear it or not!

I will continue to support and follow Ian no matter where his career takes him because he has integrity and morals which sometimes are not always followed in the media industry.

 

[Micklebot]

Not a chance

Well that's a shocker, who'd have thought the guy making unsubstantiated accusations of unethical journalism wouldn't be interested in having an open discussion over zoom with the guy when he can hide in the anonymity of msg boards on the internet.

 

[Sweatred]

Every member of the sports media has a cadence they need to produce content. In general, I feel Mendes is listening to the fan base and watching what is happening with the team, and reporting on this. I don't believe he has is own axe to grind or narrative he is trying to create at all. I don't always agree with his takes as part of his articles, but I definitely respect his approach and fairness, by and large. I find he actually skews a bit more positive than many members of the media when it comes to the Sens, although that has changed a bit maybe of late. Above all else, I find him fair. But really, I think that is more about the news and fan sentiment, than it is about Mendes creating something that is not there. The Phillips resignation, like it or not, is very real news given the manner in which he did so (lack of details). The story was created the the moment he silently stepped away without details.

I agree with your view including the recent change. I respect his work but he definitely left some unanswered questions in his Phillips story. It feels like the unanswered or vague elements of the story cater to the anti Melynk core …

It would have been easy to close up some of the holes or at present more of the story about why the foundation is potentially on the verge of bankruptcy.

Anti Sens/Melynk narratives are the low hanging fruit for Ontario media. It’s the car crash everyone wants to rubber neck.

Its a reality that Melynk skipping out on Casino bills gets more eyes than Melynk buying nurses ice cream.

 

[Sweatred]

Well that's a shocker, who'd have thought the guy making unsubstantiated accusations of unethical journalism wouldn't be interested in having an open discussion over zoom with the guy when he can hide in the anonymity of msg boards on the internet.

That’s a bit harsh … where’s the claim Mendes has acted “unethical” ?

I see claim that the piece portrays a bias or an opinion which Mendes is more than permitted to portray. I see a plea for more info which I wouldn’t say is an accusation in any way…. Although I may have missed something.

 

[Micklebot]

That’s a bit harsh … where’s the claim Mendes has acted “unethical” ?

I see claim that the piece portrays a bias or an opinion which Mendes is more than permitted to portray. I see a plea for more info which I wouldn’t say is an accusation in any way…. Although I may have missed something.

Here it is for ya,

Lol ya right, google journalism ethics or standards, reporting like he did is a joke and absolutely against everything reporting news is suppose to represent.
Every human on the planet knows claims and opinions without facts are a black eye on the profession

 

[Sweatred]

Here it is for ya,

Missed that one … I don’t know how any journalism standards apply … but I agree it’s def an accusation that they he hasn’t met them. I’ll leave that part for others to figure out.

What I would like to have is more answers or info on the story including Phillips “alienation” , the health of the foundation, and next steps.

 

[BondraTime]

Well that's a shocker, who'd have thought the guy making unsubstantiated accusations of unethical journalism wouldn't be interested in having an open discussion over zoom with the guy when he can hide in the anonymity of msg boards on the internet.

Colour me surprised,

I expect to see you in my Zoom session. Since you’ve got issues with my coverage. See you there.

You won’t unfortunately.

 

[Sweatred]

Well that's a shocker, who'd have thought the guy making unsubstantiated accusations of unethical journalism wouldn't be interested in having an open discussion over zoom with the guy when he can hide in the anonymity of msg boards on the internet.

Is attending Mendes zoom session an open offer to debate the story? I interpreted it more as an opportunity to hear more from Mendes about his view of the Sens management/timelines.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Anyone remember when the Sens hired Chris Kelly as a trainer and then he had to leave for personal reasons, only to get a job with the Bruins shortly after?

lol

 

[supsens]

Colour me surprised,

You won’t unfortunately, he’s a coward

Lol he is not getting my time if he is going to cause damage to a charity playing his little hide and seek click bait he can sell to someone else.
Did he back up his claims? Not a chance.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Lol he is not getting my time if he is going to cause damage to a charity playing his little hide and seek click bait he can sell to someone else.

Damage to what? The charity barely exists.

 

[supsens]

Damage to what? The charity barely exists.

Negative press and unsubstantiated claims.

 

[BondraTime]

Lol he is not getting my time if he is going to cause damage to a charity playing his little hide and seek click bait he can sell to someone else.
Did he back up his claims? Not a chance.

1. Call someone unprofessional and say he’s destroying journalism ethics

2. Invited by said person to discuss things and have a discussion on the issue

3. Nah, why would I want to do that. I’ll continue my schtick of being the a contrarian

4. Now apparently Mendes is harming the charity Can’t make this stuff up.

For someone that is acting like he understands journalism, you’re showing quite the lack of understanding.

 

[Sweatred]

Damage to what? The charity barely exists.

He’s suggested the ownership is at fault for another “alienated” player relationship. That’s a popular beat to drum around here.

Imagine if he came out and shamed the Ottawa fan base for their measly donations to the foundation. Or perhaps questioned the effectiveness of Weir/Phillips in their roll. He’d be Publicly Persecuted and as such he has conveniently ignored that side of the story.

 

[BatherSeason]

He’s suggested the ownership is at fault for another “alienated” player relationship. That’s a popular beat to drum around here.

Imagine if he came out and shamed the Ottawa fan base for their measly donations to the foundation. Or perhaps questioned the effectiveness of Weir/Phillips in their roll. He’d be Publicly Persecuted and as such he has conveniently ignored that side of the story.

Why don't you message him and join his zoom call? Maybe it will provide you the clarity you need.