Management Eugene Melnyk - Lawsuits, rants and more... Part 5.5 (YOUS)
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My deep and sincere condolences, bro. You a part of this family here and I feel for you.
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An arena would be to distract people from his ineptness with the trains.
Assen na yo!
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Scott Stinson: As Saudi wealth gets into English soccer, will it look to North American sports next? | National Post
“Which also raises the question: How long until the Saudis, or one of the more agreeable but still ridiculously wealthy petro-states, decides to scoop up a big North American franchise? At any given time there are MLB, NHL or NBA owners looking for an injection of cash, often from local taxpayers. But the scale of wealth in the oil states is staggering. One of those royals could buy the baseball team in Tampa or the hockey team in Ottawa, build the new stadium themselves, fund redevelopment of the whole surrounding area, never ask for a dollar of public money, and the entire enterprise would be a blip on their accounts.”
let the wishful EM haters begin to dream…..
“Which also raises the question: How long until the Saudis, or one of the more agreeable but still ridiculously wealthy petro-states, decides to scoop up a big North American franchise? At any given time there are MLB, NHL or NBA owners looking for an injection of cash, often from local taxpayers. But the scale of wealth in the oil states is staggering. One of those royals could buy the baseball team in Tampa or the hockey team in Ottawa, build the new stadium themselves, fund redevelopment of the whole surrounding area, never ask for a dollar of public money, and the entire enterprise would be a blip on their accounts.”
let the wishful EM haters begin to dream…..
I can't see north American sports ever letting middle East money into the continent's sports scene
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It’s kinda happened already, with the Seattle Mariners, and the Tampa Bay Lightning….
American Sports May Soon Face a Foreign Invasion
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You just jinxed it. Incoming bad news or lawsuit.
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This thread is the only reason a small minority of Sens fans come to this site. They’re under the misguided impression that their rants about the owner will motivate him to sell the franchise, and that somehow will usher in a Stanley Cup Championship team playing in front of sold out games.
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Maybe you’d be happier in the “I hate the city and it’s fans “ attendance thread.
Looks like there is something for everyone on this board.
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I guess we can say now EM is not the worst owner in the league.
With Pittsburgh getting thier decision over turned by a judge, one of thier former coaches wives were sexually assaulted by a penguins staff and Pittsburgh somehow made a non employee (the man's wife) go through thier spouses contract arbitration and not be able to press charges. f*** the penguins in the ass.
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Pittsburgh Penguins told AHL coach to ‘stay quiet’ about wife's sexual assault, lawsuit says - TSN.ca
And f*** Chicago too.
With Pittsburgh getting thier decision over turned by a judge, one of thier former coaches wives were sexually assaulted by a penguins staff and Pittsburgh somehow made a non employee (the man's wife) go through thier spouses contract arbitration and not be able to press charges. f*** the penguins in the ass.
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Pittsburgh Penguins told AHL coach to ‘stay quiet’ about wife's sexual assault, lawsuit says - TSN.ca
And f*** Chicago too.
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That’s brutal - tough days for the nhl here including MTL … really makes our Geener complaints (casinos, boats, tickets) really insignificant.
Do you remember Randy Lee. Those in glass houses ……
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To my knowledge, Melnyk and the team never tried to cover anything up.
The team may not have handled the situation perfectly by an stretch, but until evidence arises that suggests they handled it as poorly as the Hawks, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
All that said, whataboutism doesn't make our team's past transgressions any better. We may no longer be the worst, but that doesn't make everything A' Ok
Sorry GCK, my posts isn’t towards you specifically, or anyone in here directly
Not the same situation at all. When talking about these types of things we really shouldn’t be using a broad brush, we should instead be looking in the mirror.
The sad thing about the Randy Lee situation is that he was fined publicly shamed, and lost his job for being overly forward in hitting on a young man. Where as that particular behaviour, and more, happens to women every night out at the club or the bar, with zero fanfare, and with buddy likely moving on to the next girl to hit on when rejected.
The outrage in here was pretty rich, given how forward and pushy guys are all the time towards woman. Classic double standard, with a sprinkle of homophobia. I’m not saying his behaviour was acceptable, it’s not, I’m saying guys should can the faux outrage and try making a difference amongst ourselves and our friends and coworkers, and try and safeguard the women, and men, around us when we’re out, before lining up to cast stones.
He reaped what he sowed, but I think we, as the men in here, should take a hard look at the comparisons to our own behaviour when socializing with women, instead of trying to compare this Randy Lee incident to much more serious incidences.
I feel pretty strongly about this kind of thing, sorry to come off ranty, and I’ll probably get accused of high horses and such, but my point remains. I live in a house filled with girls and girlfriends, and I have seen just a smidgen of the endless stories of what happens on nights out.
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Naw, dog. Being overly forward doesn't involve touching yourself. That was criminal — a fact Randy Lee agreed to when he pled guilty to the violation. Even the Associated Press called it a sex crime. All facts that can be confirmed here.
We fail women and marginalized members of society all the time on these kinds of things, that's true. But I resent you taking the opportunity to downplay Lee's transgressions here. We're not being good allies or making the world safer for anyone by saying "This isn't as bad as..." I agree with you in substance as far as needing to do more to keep women safe in public spaces, but the whataboutism doesn't change the fact that the outrage RE: Randy Lee was well-deserved.
That’s exactly my point, yes it does happen, often.
Grinding up on people, touching them, etc, all happens very frequently, and often assumed to be part of ‘the game’.
I’m not trying to crusade here, I’m finding a disconnect between people trying to liken Lee to Aldrich, or at the time pedophile, while at the same time we’re around this behaviour all the time at the club and say and do nothing because it doesn’t seem out of place.
And Lee’s ‘transgressions’ amounted to a fine, and an attempt at a lawsuit against the NHL, pardon me if I’m not outraged at that particular incident as it has been described.
I’m more curious as to why people are more outraged when it is a man behaving this way towards another man. There is real work to be done to reduce this type of behaviour across the board, as it is prevalent, but why is this the spark, versus the ongoing and far worse at times behaviour.
call it whataboutism, seems like a bullshit cop out to me.
This is 100% right. What Lee did doesn't need to be used a comparative point to say "oh, but that's way worse". What he did was bad and we don't need to pat ourselves on the back because our incident wasn't the worst one.
You guys missed my point, and that’s likely my fault. I was never saying that it’s ok because other this guy are worse.
My point was that in a male dominated forum I find it curious that the Lee situation was exceptionalized and compared to Aldrich now, and peodophilia then. I find the exceptionalizing to be more harmful because it lets a forum full of men off the hook in terms of considering the behaviour as actually pretty wide spread if not “normalized” in social setting involving women. We can put it at arms length as something that only the worst of us do; and that is simply not true.
It allows a forum filled with men to waggle their fingers at Lee, call him a criminal, and never have to look in the mirror or consider how their buds act on a night out. Or how many times such things unfold around us and we say and do nothing.
Anyways, I’m not expecting headway in a forum almost exclusively men, but it’s a whole different issue when you go through the Lee incident in a room filled with women.
My point was that in a male dominated forum I find it curious that the Lee situation was exceptionalized and compared to Aldrich now, and peodophilia then. I find the exceptionalizing to be more harmful because it lets a forum full of men off the hook in terms of considering the behaviour as actually pretty wide spread if not “normalized” in social setting involving women. We can put it at arms length as something that only the worst of us do; and that is simply not true.
It allows a forum filled with men to waggle their fingers at Lee, call him a criminal, and never have to look in the mirror or consider how their buds act on a night out. Or how many times such things unfold around us and we say and do nothing.
Anyways, I’m not expecting headway in a forum almost exclusively men, but it’s a whole different issue when you go through the Lee incident in a room filled with women.
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