Traded Erik Brännström - D - Part III

[HSF]

that had nothing to do with Brann and everything to do with Dorion and DJ bungling roster decisions resulting in us being eliminated early.

ever since Brann has been up the team has looked better. ever since Brann and Zub have been paired the team has looked better. same as last year.

What exactly is the problem of rotating Sanderson and Brann based on who is playing better? what exactly is the problem of having a skilled 3rd pair that can push the pace of the game?

Wild to me that Ottawa Senators fans think defensive depth is a bad thing. It's like we've been without it for so long that some no longer value it.

bingo. The whole argument that we can't have Brannstrom here because we have Sanderson and Holden blows my mind. On a playoff team Holden is a bottom pair guy and Sanderson....we don't know yet. Makes zero sense to move brannstrom

 

[Boud]

uh? Brannstrom wasn't on the NHL team cause he didnt have to go through waivers to move down and they had their new shiny toy in MDZ to play. This was confirmed by Mann saying its a numbers game sometimes.

Brannstrom played excellent to end last year and again this year he is playing really well.

Branny won't always be a polarizing player as he is now settling in and cementing his spot on the roster. at least in my opinion its clear the best left side D going into next season are Chabot, Branny , Sanderson and Holden

I would be very surprised if MDZ is on the NHL roster

I don't see MDZ on the roster at all. Maybe he stays as 7th D. We did however re-sign Holden and to me it seems like Thomson is also pushing for a spot, hell maybe JBD as well. You still have Zaitsev, let's hope he's gone but still.... I think Brannstrom and Holden will rotate in and out.

And I don't really care about the numbers game stuff because what I'm talking about is Brannstrom's play. He's a fine player but he has his warts for sure. I don't care if he stays and plays here, I just don't think he has a future here. The way you guys talk about him it's like he's not a replaceable piece. From next year on I anticipate he will be in and out of the lineup. Not because I hate him, just because that seems to be the reality of it. We'll see.

 

[HSF]

I don't see MDZ on the roster at all. Maybe he stays as 7th D. We did however re-sign Holden and to me it seems like Thomson is also pushing for a spot, hell maybe JBD as well. You still have Zaitsev, let's hope he's gone but still.... I think Brannstrom and Holden will rotate in and out.

And I don't really care about the numbers game stuff because what I'm talking about is Brannstrom's play. He's a fine player but he has his warts for sure. I don't care if he stays and plays here, I just don't think he has a future here. The way you guys talk about him it's like he's not a replaceable piece. From next year on I anticipate he will be in and out of the lineup. Not because I hate him, just because that seems to be the reality of it. We'll see.

Brannstrom played well in camp though. MDZ and Mete were not good. Its a numbers game. I dont think Branny is replaceable with what we currently have. JBD and Thomson don't play the same game he does nor the same side.

 

[Boud]

bingo. The whole argument that we can't have Brannstrom here because we have Sanderson and Holden blows my mind. On a playoff team Holden is a bottom pair guy and Sanderson....we don't know yet. Makes zero sense to move brannstrom

Literally no one said that. That's what you seem to want people to say though.

 

[DrEasy]

I like having D depth (TWSS), and so it looks like we will have some starting next year:

Chabot - Hamonic
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Holden
MDZ - Zaitsev
Mete

With JBD and Thomson in Belleville.

MDZ and Zaitsev will clear waivers, so they can play for Belleville and be called up in case of injury. If of course they can be part of a trade that clears some payroll even better.

Not a top-heavy D but one that will be fairly resilient to injuries.

 

[HSF]

Literally no one said that. That's what you seem to want people to say though.

nah its been said many times now with Sanderson here that Branny should be traded.

Doesn't make sense since we arent flush with good defensemen

 

[Boud]

nah its been said many times now with Sanderson here that Branny should be traded.

Doesn't make sense since we arent flush with good defensemen

I think people said that thinking Branny would have decent value. Now if he has good value and you can get a good asset for him ... It's a valid suggestion. At this point though I agree it makes no sense to trade him.

 

[HSF]

I think people said that thinking Branny would have decent value. Now if he has good value and you can get a good asset for him ... It's a valid suggestion. At this point though I agree it makes no sense to trade him.

it really isn't when we don't have depth on defense

thankfully the crowd has been quiet with how well he is playing. Branny for Zadina was popular around here not too long ago

 

[Boud]

it really isn't when we don't have depth on defense

I don't expect Branny to be dealt at all

I don't expect him to be traded at this point but he was shopped for sure. When Garrioch speaks it's more often than not words coming from the top and in the last year (and in the summer after a good end of season) there were rumours he would be dangled for a forward.

So my understanding is the team might not have the same thinking that you have. All that said, I still think they should keep him bc of his low value on the market.

 

[BankStreetParade]

No idea what you are talking about. I think your in the wrong thread.

I like Brannstrom and I think I'd prefer him at ELC money now vs 5 years of Stone at $9.5.

Stone still has game but its slowing and his $9.5 would be hard to fit in our cap structure starting in 2023. I think we've seen the first crack in the trade evaluation. It's been used again Dorion for 3 years but we are already seeing negative value in Stone's $9.5

I think being confused is more your thing. Beyond the hilarity of comparing a guy on an ELC to a guy who secured an extension for his UFA years, you're also comparing a defenseman to a winger and, even worse, comparing an undersized depth defenseman to a 5x Selke-nominated winger who's been PPG for 6 years straight. But you do you with your ridiculous neither-here-nor-there apples-to-oranges takes. It's clearly your specialty.

 

[HSF]

I don't expect him to be traded at this point but he was shopped for sure. When Garrioch speaks it's more often than not words coming from the top and in the last year (and in the summer after a good end of season) there were rumours he would be dangled for a forward.

So my understanding is the team might not have the same thinking that you have. All that said, I still think they should keep him bc of his low value on the market.

disagree

I think the team would want to keep him with how he has developed esp without Chabot here. They had a chance to move him at the deadline instead added a defensive defensemen for the right side which makes me think they will keep Branny

 

[Sweatred]

I think being confused is more your thing. Beyond the hilarity of comparing a guy on an ELC to a guy who secured an extension for his UFA years, you're also comparing a defenseman to a winger and, even worse, comparing an undersized depth defenseman to a 5x Selke-nominated winger who's been PPG for 6 years straight. But you do you with your ridiculous neither-here-nor-there apples-to-oranges takes. It's clearly your specialty.

I'm not confused at all .. We traded Stone for Brann and eventually Sokolov and I'm saying if I was offered to reverse it I wouldn't. Like the EK deal, people all around the league have poked fun at the org for this trade.

This trade is going to go the way of the EK trade. That one took 2 years for everyone to figure out .... this one will take 4 or so.

Ottawa Senators: Pierre Dorion’s worst trades as General Manager

Pierre Dorion and the Ottawa Senators have had some blunders when making trades. Take a look at the General Manager's five worst trades.

senshot.com

The impact of a 30+ year old aging Stone in the lineup starting in 2023 would really limit our ability to sign our young players. We probably don't have Sanderson if we have Stone. This is far from the disaster many make it out to be.

 

[GCK]

nah its been said many times now with Sanderson here that Branny should be traded.

Doesn't make sense since we arent flush with good defensemen

He shouldn’t be traded at this point as he would not return anything. Keep him as the 7th D next year.

Chabot Zub
Sanderson Hamonic
Holden Thomson
Brannstrom
Del Zotto

 

[SensFan1010]

i dont understand how people have seen 3 seasons of brann and 10 games of thompson and ready to play thopmson over branny

 

[HSF]

i dont understand how people have seen 3 seasons of brann and 10 games of thompson and ready to play thopmson over branny

sens fans gonna sens

 

[Boud]

i dont understand how people have seen 3 seasons of brann and 10 games of thompson and ready to play thopmson over branny

They play different sides and DJ Smith has been adament he won't play Brannstrom on RD, maybe if there's injuries to replace someone but nothing more than that.... So I think you need to re-calculate...

People want to see anyone else other than Zaitsev... don't you? Holden on the right, Thomson, JBD, whoever.

Kinda weird to compare both Brannstrom and Thomson too. Thomson is a good prospect, don't see why it would be weird to want him in the lineup. Sanderson hasn't played a game and I want to see him in the lineup. Pinto same for him he's not even played 20 ... lol would you rather have White in the lineup or Pinto? Because one has played 17 games and the other 224 including a 40 pts season, that should tell you all you need to know right?

Y'all are so defensive about Brannstrom it's hilarious honestly... people can't have different opinions.

 

[Sweatred]

i dont understand how people have seen 3 seasons of brann and 10 games of thompson and ready to play thopmson over branny

Ya - Branny > Lassi

 

[BankStreetParade]

I'm not confused at all .. We traded Stone for Brann and eventually Sokolov and I'm saying if I was offered to reverse it I wouldn't. Like the EK deal, people all around the league have poked fun at the org for this trade.

This trade is going to go the way of the EK trade. That one took 2 years for everyone to figure out .... this one will take 4 or so.

Ottawa Senators: Pierre Dorion’s worst trades as General Manager

Pierre Dorion and the Ottawa Senators have had some blunders when making trades. Take a look at the General Manager's five worst trades.

senshot.com

The impact of a 30+ year old aging Stone in the lineup starting in 2023 would really limit our ability to sign our young players. We probably don't have Sanderson if we have Stone. This is far from the disaster many make it out to be.

You find a way to fit guys like Stone in and he's nowhere close to the age where he's done, especially if the alternative is an undersized depth defenseman and a guy who might be a depth forward some day. Your takes are somehow getting progressively worse every day, defying all odds.

 

[Sweatred]

You find a way to fit guys like Stone in and he's nowhere close to the age where he's done, especially if the alternative is an undersized depth defenseman and a guy who might be a depth forward some day. Your takes are somehow getting progressively worse every day, defying all odds.

No thanks - I don’t want it for 5 years. He can play on your team.

 

[BankStreetParade]

No thanks - I don’t want it for 5 years. He can play on your team.

I don't believe anyone cares what you want...

 

[Sweatred]

I don't believe anyone cares what you want...

Oh BankStreet… no need to be nasty all the time. Thanks for sharing.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I like having D depth (TWSS), and so it looks like we will have some starting next year:

Chabot - Hamonic
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Holden
MDZ - Zaitsev
Mete

With JBD and Thomson in Belleville.

MDZ and Zaitsev will clear waivers, so they can play for Belleville and be called up in case of injury. If of course they can be part of a trade that clears some payroll even better.

Not a top-heavy D but one that will be fairly resilient to injuries.

There's no depth that'll be good enough if Hamonic is on our first pair. This 100% needs to be addressed in the off-season.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Brannstrom continues to improve and be our best or second best D on many nights yet the same crowd continues to cry and whine about wanting to trade him. It's beyond hilarity.

 

[aragorn]

still blows my mind that many on here do not see the value Brann brings to our team specifically.

Like did they not see how bad the movement and creativity is without him? how we have no stable 2nd pair if we split Brann-Zub? How Brann seamlessly steps in for one of the best d in the league and the team doesn't skip a beat? How he is only 22 and clearly still figuring out the league but still productive and a net positive?

People pointing to his point totals as proof he is struggling is ignorant and stat watching. He's clearly outplaying his point totals.

I've placed Brann & White into numerous trade proposals & time after time people always say that it's not a good deal for the other side, that the other team would not take it. And it's not for star players but middle of the road guys like Crouse & Boeser, why is that? If Brannstrom is so damn good & playing like a top 4 D as some on here are constantly saying why does he have no value when it comes to trades? He's not playing ahead of Chabot, Sanderson or Zub & I doubt he plays ahead of Hamonic, Holden or dare I say it Zaitsev. He is slightly ahead of Mete & while it seems he is ahead of MDZ, I prefer MDZ. If they acquire a top 4 RD that will push him further down the depth chart & it's even quite possible that Thomson/JBD could push him down further during training camp. It still blows my mind that some people on here just don't see it that he is barely keeping his head above water.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Oh BankStreet… no need to be nasty all the time. Thanks for sharing.

I can't even begin to imagine how you would think that's "nasty". Another moment of confusion for you it seems.