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The Da Silva experiment didn’t last long. Has resigned with the Toronto Patriots
I was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.I don't understand why they took him in the first place. However, if coaching staff and leadership figured it out this quickly, perhaps just an oversight that really didn't cost the team much.
Agree - drafting could be so much better …I was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.
Sawyer is a 3rd round NHL pick. He just chose to go NCAAI was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.
Which is why I said those players “are either not good enough or won’t even sign here.” Still speaks to poor drafting and a wasted pick either way… whether they can play or not or whether they sign or not - bottom line: they are missing wayyyy too much on their early round picks.Sawyer is a 3rd round NHL pick. He just chose to go NCAA
and yet somehow DB is still in charge. It makes zero sense. And I don’t want to diminish development either because the players that have left in recent years have mostly found success elsewhere. Even Edwards, who they sent back down at the beginning of the year, and then he comes back for the second half of the season and is a PPG player. Like how does the coaching/development team not recognize or find a way to better work with a kid that clearly has some talent to AT LEAST be on the roster over guys like Messier, etcAgree - drafting could be so much better …
I just don’t understand like half of what they do .. I mean if Mess wasn’t 6-4/6-5- hadn’t played for Pens Elite rather locally w that connection there trying to build , or had the family pedigree he wouldn’t have been chosen
All of those things even combined still don’t translate to anything even near average as far as production goes ..
I mean if Mess wasn’t 6-4/6-5
Is this confirmed? He is deleted from the Otters roster.Looks like Molnar is going to Sudbury
Not confirmed yet but expect it to be at some point today. Knowing DB, he probably just got released and sent to SBY for freeIs this confirmed? He is deleted from the Otters roster.
WJ
Not confirmed yet but expect it to be at some point today. Knowing DB, he probably just got released and sent to SBY for free
22 man roster isn't out of the ordinary. I'd rather the 23rd and 24th guys were getting regular ice time elsewhere.
Do you mean he's going to Sudbury?100 percent he’s going to Erie to confirm others postings o n here
Yeah I think the roster total is fine for now, assuming Edwards is really close to be back if not already. My prior post showed him in a light blue at jersey (with Fimis’ line) and not a non contact jersey. I would imagine Edwards plays this weekend or if not then he is back by next weekend. I also expect Schaefer back in the next few weeksI'm curious to the return, if any. Lots of moves with Da Silva departing, Molnar now gone, Toroptsev off the roster. We know Schaefer and Edwards aren't at full strength yet.
Current roster
13F
7D
2G
I would think as customary with years past we'd want at least 2 more skaters rostered to account for injury, suspension, other.
admittedly though in Edwards case though- I believe it was all about PT.. he didn’t play much for the otters year one , then was reassigned to the other “O” ojhl or whatever ..and yet somehow DB is still in charge. It makes zero sense. And I don’t want to diminish development either because the players that have left in recent years have mostly found success elsewhere. Even Edwards, who they sent back down at the beginning of the year, and then he comes back for the second half of the season and is a PPG player. Like how does the coaching/development team not recognize or find a way to better work with a kid that clearly has some talent to AT LEAST be on the roster over guys like Messier, etc
The same was true of Kyrou. Some kids do need that development from the OJHL or whatever its called, but at the same time, the development of Henry/Holomego (not as much Holomego) last season I think provided more growth for them than the OJHL would have.admittedly though in Edwards case though- I believe it was all about PT.. he didn’t play much for the otters year one , then was reassigned to the other “O” ojhl or whatever ..
Then worked his ass off over the summer and lit it up and got a ton of playing time once reassigned ..came back to the otters and had been on fire last year before the injury
Can’t deny the amt of top line minutes he got up there - helped him develop is my guess
What's the hold up on the Molnar deal? Taking a lot longer than expected.Sorry yes