Erie Otters 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[SoupNazi]

Continued from Erie Otters 2023-24 Offseason Thread (Part 2)

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[Guy In Burlington]

First to get in.

 

[Krangers08]

The Da Silva experiment didn’t last long. Has resigned with the Toronto Patriots

 

[Mata]

The Da Silva experiment didn’t last long. Has resigned with the Toronto Patriots

I don't understand why they took him in the first place. However, if coaching staff and leadership figured it out this quickly, perhaps just an oversight that really didn't cost the team much.

 

[NOA]

I don't understand why they took him in the first place. However, if coaching staff and leadership figured it out this quickly, perhaps just an oversight that really didn't cost the team much.

I was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.

 

[7D442]

I was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.

Agree - drafting could be so much better …

I just don’t understand like half of what they do .. I mean if Mess wasn’t 6-4/6-5- hadn’t played for Pens Elite rather locally w that connection there trying to build , or had the family pedigree he wouldn’t have been chosen

All of those things even combined still don’t translate to anything even near average as far as production goes ..

 

[WorkHardEveryShift]

I was just about to say.. nothing about him suggested he was worthy of an OHL roster spot. Says more about just the state of their drafting / developing. The depth of the roster is not good enough. Even Messier shouldn’t be here given his age / production. Bottom line is guys like Artichuk, Logan Sawyer, Vital Dinis (ha, what a pick that was!) are either not good enough or won’t even sign here and yet in recent years, they used REAL assets in the draft to pick them (2nd, 2nd, 4th respectively). If even one of them could play on the 3rd line like a Kyle Pettit or Nick Betz type, this team would be in a much better spot - let alone if 2 of them were on the roster. The last “successful” 2nd round pick they had is 2012, Pettit and I would argue for where they took him, it was more like a C+ grade on that pick. You really have to go back to 2010, Pelech, to find a hit. Since that time, they haven’t drafted anything worth a damn in the 2nd round and had some MAJOR misses. Granted, they haven’t had a lot of 2nd rounders but all the more concerning and impacting it has been.

Sawyer is a 3rd round NHL pick. He just chose to go NCAA