GWT: EPL - Matchweek 3

[hatterson]

I think I know why I am confused. If it was a foul in the box that would not have been a red, right?

Correct. Since the mid-late 2010s (I can't recall the year exactly), DOGSO fouls that result in a penalty are yellows if they are not handballs and are attempts at the ball (which this obviously was)

 

[KJS14]

And yet Greenwood didn't play football for 18 months and was released by his team and somehow United are a bad look while Harit carried on like nothing happenned under the Moroccan jersey.

Ignoring the 2nd part of this, because I'm not familiar with the Harit case.

But I don't think you want to defend United here. They did their absolute best to try to bring Greenwood back and only decided that they couldn't do that after immense public backlash. And have they actually released him yet? I think they're still trying to get a fee for him, because it was never about morals for them.

Jussi seems to love it though...

 

[Spring in Fialta]

And yet Greenwood didn't play football for 18 months and was released by his team and somehow United are a bad look while Harit carried on like nothing happenned under the Moroccan jersey.

I guarantee you that Greenwood would not have been released by Manchester United over the Harit situation.

Again, intent matters.

If your point is that multiple organizations look past bad events, sure. I think Manchester United and Greenwood went past that, personally.

 

[Power Man]

Matip-Gomez in the next couple of games

rofl

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Correct. That challenge in the box is a yellow and a penalty.

That make sense, because to me I would have expected way more red cards called for all the penalty foul that deny a clear chance

 

[hatterson]

Not sure I've seen a player head the ball from his own 6 yard box out to midfield before. Burn really got a hold of that one.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Ignoring the 2nd part of this, because I'm not familiar with the Harit case.

But I don't think you want to defend United here. They did their absolute best to try to bring Greenwood back and only decided that they couldn't do that after immense public backlash. And have they actually released him yet? I think they're still trying to get a fee for him, because it was never about morals for them.

Jussi seems to love it though...

Harit hit a pedestrian (who died) while vacationing in Morocco (no DUI). Tried to flee the scene on foot and was caught by passerbys. Settled out-of-court with the family and resumed play.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Another question. Could the team deny a red card being called and give away a yellow and a penalty instead?
Because in this context it would have been better for LFC to let them have the penalty.

 

[hatterson]

Another question. Could the team deny a red card being call and give away a yellow and a penalty instead?

No, the card color and result is purely up to the ref.

Theoretically a ref could call a DOGSO foul outside the box a then give a yellow + pen cause he felt bad, but VAR would send him to the monitor and then if he didn't change his mind he'd find himself unemployed after the game.

 

[Live in the Now]

Endo was terrible too. At most clubs this would be a realization that the cheap transfer policy didn't work and they need to spend on two players.

 

[KJS14]

No, the card color and result is purely up to the ref.

Theoretically a ref could call a DOGSO foul outside the box a then give a yellow + pen cause he felt bad, but VAR would send him to the monitor and then if he didn't change his mind he'd find himself unemployed after the game.

You give PGMOL too much credit. He'd be given a week off and then we'd see him back reffing after that.

 

[hatterson]

You give PGMOL too much credit. He'd be given a week off and then we'd see him back reffing after that.

You might be right.

 

[Savant]

Why are we persisting with Matip if he can’t go 90 minutes

 

[Live in the Now]

Why are we persisting with Matip if he can’t go 90 minutes

Cheap

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I sense that in the the context of already being down 1 and with 60+ minutes left to play anybody would prefer to give away the penalty and keep the player on the field.

 

[gary69]

Nice goal by Nunez.

 

[Live in the Now]

DARWIN POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Blender]

Newcastle punished for their lack of finishing while up.

 

[hatterson]

TAA level defending by Newcastle.

 

[Jussi]

What a flukey bounce.

 

[Peen]

God I love watching Nunez.

He’ll be great in blue.

 

[KJS14]

Wow, Liverpool might escape with a point after getting bullied all game.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Red card for Nunez for excessive celebration

 

[Blender]

Botman is usually pretty solid but that was dreadful.

 

[Chimaera]

On the foul, the only debate is if Isak would have had control of the ball. I think there is an argument that he was ahead of the ball and might not have controlled. But we won’t know.

It’s a red for me, but it is a bit frustrating as they can’t really play it out since he goes down.