Blue Jays Discussion: End of the Hand

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Jays Runs per game in September before tonight: 8.9 runs

Jays Runs For tonight: 8

Jays Runs per game in September after tonight: 8.8 runs

Slackers!!
 
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18 games left, need to go 10-8 to make the playoffs (91-71).

Manoah is a revelation. We have had HOF pitchers come through this organization (Clemens, Stieb, Henke, Halladay, Ward, Cone, Hentgen, Morris, there are too many to name). We have aces rising out of nowhere on this team. Manoah, Berrios, Ryu, Ray...this team IS scary.
 
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18 games left, need to go 10-8 to make the playoffs (91-71).

Manoah is a revelation. We have had HOF pitchers come through this organization (Clemens, Stieb, Henke, Halladay, Ward, Cone, Hentgen, Morris, there are too many to name). We have aces rising out of nowhere on this team. Manoah, Berrios, Ryu, Ray...this team IS scary.
The key for Manoah will be figuring out how to control how much movement he gets on his pitches. There are times you need that frisbie slider but it moves enough that if you're able to dial it back and paint the corners for strikes when you need too you become almost impossible to hit.
 
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18 games left, need to go 10-8 to make the playoffs (91-71).

Manoah is a revelation. We have had HOF pitchers come through this organization (Clemens, Stieb, Henke, Halladay, Ward, Cone, Hentgen, Morris, there are too many to name). We have aces rising out of nowhere on this team. Manoah, Berrios, Ryu, Ray...this team IS scary.

It's time to be greedy. Beat the Rays, wear out their pen and see if we can catch them. The best way to make the playoffs is to keep winning and keep aggressive goals.
 
Vladdy is doing what he's done all year and now leads the AL in Avg, OBP, SLG, HR, R, and everything derived from them. Ohtani is now 10th in pitching bWAR and 12th in hitting bWAR (with a couple of starts due against better teams then some starts against weaker teams after).

I still think we would need to see a Vladdy tear for Vladdy to win, but Vladdy's stat line looks like it belongs in a video game.
 


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Is this good news? This reads like someone didn't check the FCL box scores recently until yesterday and saw Moreno played a couple games not realizing he came out of one of them injured again recently. That 3 for 4 game was his first game back and he got injured again this last Saturday
 
Just looking at the probables, it looks like the Angels are going to give Ohtani extra rest the next two times so that he would face Oakland and Seattle instead of Chicago, Houston, then possibly Seattle.
 
Just looking at the probables, it looks like the Angels are going to give Ohtani extra rest the next two times so that he would face Oakland and Seattle instead of Chicago, Houston, then possibly Seattle.

Ohtani literally never pitches on regular rest. Do you really believe they're doing it to pick and choose weaker opponents for him, or do you think there's a chance they're trying to take it easy with him because he had Tommy John surgery and hasn't pitched in two years?
 
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I, for one, am shocked that the garbage baseball team wants their only cool guy to pitch in as many home games as possible for the remainder of the season.

I am secondarily shocked that the guy who has made one of eight starts on five days or less rest since the ASB will not be making starts on five days or less rest going forward.
 
Imagine the Jays wasting the prime years of Vlad Jr. and Bichette the same way the Angels have with Trout and Ohtani. :eek:

Turns out paying over $80M combined for Rendon/Pujols/JUpton is not optimal roster construction.

Can't wait to see who they overpay this offseason with Pujols off the books.
 
Ohtani literally never pitches on regular rest. Do you really believe they're doing it to pick and choose weaker opponents for him, or do you think there's a chance they're trying to take it easy with him because he had Tommy John surgery and hasn't pitched in two years?

This wasn't a commentary; only a clarification since my other posts were based on the assumption that he would.
 
This wasn't a commentary; only a clarification since my other posts were based on the assumption that he would.

Sorry... your previous comments on the subject plus your wording on this one ("so that he would face...") made it seem like you were suggesting quality of competition was the motivation behind it.
 
Sorry... your previous comments on the subject plus your wording on this one ("so that he would face...") made it seem like you were suggesting quality of competition was the motivation behind it.

No, just trying to figure out what he has left. He likely starts at home to those two then at Texas on 5 days rest or at Seattle on 6 (or shutdown)
 
Sorry... your previous comments on the subject plus your wording on this one ("so that he would face...") made it seem like you were suggesting quality of competition was the motivation behind it.

I still believe that Ohtani is the frontrunner and that it would take something special from Vladdy to win. I just think he's capable of it. He'd have to close the fWAR gap siginificantly (not a huge fan of bWAR in this case because the stats that fWAR is based on for pitching match the old-school stats almost perfectly in Ohtani's case).

One thing that drives me nuts about this situation is that Ohtani's WAR is actually boosted by being a pitcher (albeit, I believe the factor is at most 0.1). He gets a positive defensive adjustment when he's on the mound, when he's essentially acting as a DH as opposed to his team being forced to have a pitcher hit.
 
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