Blue Jays Discussion: End of the Hand

[MS]

Here's the current bullpen:

Mayza
Cimber
Merryweather
Pearson
Richards
Romano
Saucedo
Soria

Stripling is getting much closer to a return and will be in the bullpen for the rest of the season. I'd say he takes one of Saucedo, Soria, Valera, Smith, or Lamb's spot.

Having all of Valera/Smith/Lamb on the roster seems like a bit of overkill so that would by my first guess.

 

[Vector]

Having all of Valera/Smith/Lamb on the roster seems like a bit of overkill so that would by my first guess.

I was trying to look this up but is Lamb eligible for the post season roster? If not it's probably either him or Smith.

Curious as to when Biggio and Espinal return. Espinal's IL stint technically could have ended yesterday but I haven't heard anything about him. Biggio restarted his rehab assignment yesterday.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Talks to Goalposts]

He was averaging a little under 0.1 WAR per inning, which is absolutely ridiculous and on an extremely small sample size. If he can even be at 60% of what he was, he'd be a great part of a fearsome trio with Romero and Mayza.

Obviously no human can sustain that level of dominance permanently. More that if he can show up with the ability to command his 100 MPH fastball, 88 MPH slider, 80 MPH changeup combo and be essentially Romano + 20 MPH slower changeup to play with the heat.

 

[Vector]

Robbie Ray - 500 LEVEL

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME OF THIS?!?

 

[The Nemesis]

The excitement I had when I received my Lawrie jersey on Christmas...

I honestly thought he was going to be one of the next great Blue Jays. All the better being a Canadian, to boot.

I have exactly two authentic (ie expensive) sports jerseys: a Brett Lawrie Blue Jays one I got for my birthday the year after Lawrie's debut and a home (teal) Sharks with Evander Kane on it. Yeah....

My closet is full of disappointment.

 

[lebdafor norris]

He was averaging a little under 0.1 WAR per inning, which is absolutely ridiculous and on an extremely small sample size. If he can even be at 60% of what he was, he'd be a great part of a fearsome trio with Romero and Mayza.

If we go by BWAR, we could say that he has actually average well above. 1 WAR per inning and just under .2, he has given the Jays a higher WAR rating in just 4.1 innings compare to what Berrios gave in 7 whole starts.

 

[dredeye]

I have exactly two authentic (ie expensive) sports jerseys: a Brett Lawrie Blue Jays one I got for my birthday the year after Lawrie's debut and a home (teal) Sharks with Evander Kane on it. Yeah....

My closet is full if disappointment.

Was Kane your decision? I’ve only got one authentic jersey and it’s a white Olerud.

my kids have Vlad and Bo though

 

[The Nemesis]

Was Kane your decision? I’ve only got one authentic jersey and it’s a white Olerud.

my kids have Vlad and Bo though

Yes.

Aside from being a Sharks fan I'm also a season ticked holder for the WHL Vancouver Giants, of which Kane is an alumnus. So a player from my favorite Jr team on my favorite pro team seemed line a natural through-line (and I had always liked Kane going back to his early days in Atlanta.)

 

[dredeye]

Yes.

Aside from being a Sharks fan I'm also a season ticked holder for the WHL Vancouver Giants, of which Kane is an alumnus. So a player from my favorite Jr team on my favorite pro team seemed line a natural through-line (and I had always liked Kane going back to his early days in Atlanta.)

Unfortunately very fair reasoning. He’s the classic can’t get out of his own way kind of guy it seems. All the talent in the world

 

[zeke]

"Ball"

 

[barilko05]

"Ball"

This ump has been a train wreck all night long. For both sides so I guess it's a saw off. BTW. anybody get the David Cone's doppelganger thing from Chad Green? I thought for a sec he'd come down.outta the booth to help out.

 

[AllDay28]

Robbie Ray - 500 LEVEL

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME OF THIS?!?

I bought the shirt Castellano's kid made for charity... i wanna buy this but nearly $60 with shipping is kinda wild.

 

[Stolie the Goalie]

 

[The Nemesis]

"Ball"

This ump has been a train wreck all night long. For both sides so I guess it's a saw off. BTW. anybody get the David Cone's doppelganger thing from Chad Green? I thought for a sec he'd come down.outta the booth to help out.

Every passing day is just another, stronger argument for robo-umps.

It's the single most constant, overriding, and collectively impactful part of the HP ump's job and most of the time the best you can hope for is "well, at least he was terrible to both teams in equal measure."

I still have yet to hear a compelling argument against the computerized strike zone that doesn't boil down to flimsy appeals to tradition, the "human element" (ie "I like people being bad at their job for some reason"), or needless slippery slope arguments about how this will end with the game being entirely played by robots run by spreadsheets and ruin baseball forever.

 

[Le Cobra]

24 games left. Need to go 15-9 to make the postseason

 

[phillipmike]

Would be perfect to have him play Tampa twice, the Yankees once and ready for a potential wild card game.

 

[nilan30]

"Ball"

Haha Buck "What was wrong with that pitch?"

I think the batter's weird reaction really through the ump off for some reason. I think even the ump himself was surprised at his own call

 

[TheTotalPackage]

"Ball"

I've always been on the side of the human element side and living with some of the missed calls that are borderline.

But this year the misses -- both balls called strikes and vice versa -- have been beyond egregious. I think the one from earlier this year called on Odor was enough for me to switch my stance. And it keeps getting worse and worse with each passing day as we get deeper into the season. You would think the umps would tighten things up now that the stretch drive and importance is heightened. Quite the opposite.

 

[hoglund]

Was Kane your decision? I’ve only got one authentic jersey and it’s a white Olerud.

my kids have Vlad and Bo though

I have 2 jerseys Dave Steib and Jose Bautista.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[phillipmike]

On one level you want to play the Yankees now as they are cold.

On another level if it is rained out their are 2 options;

Option 1: Play the Yankees in a double header later this month but they are the home team at the Rogers Centre. Last Jays vs Yankees series is in Toronto.

Option 2: Or the game is rescheduled to September 27th where both teams have off days. If not it could take place as game 162 on October 4th which may have playoff implications and could you imagine if Ray and Cole face off for that?

 

[theaub]

I absolutely want to play tonight. I'd play them four times tonight if we could.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

If we dump Grichuk, tender Berrios, Stripling, Teo, and Cimber in Arb, and spend about as much as we did this year we should have about 60 million to spend this offseason.

That's theoretically enough to re-sign both Ray and Semien and still add around the edges but Bo and Vlad are due sizeable arb raises the following year. If you had to only pick one to keep between the two who would it be?

Ray seems like the most logical choice as we need pitching and have a lot of middle infield depth. Then again, Semien plays every day and leads our team in WAR, plus he's never injured, and we could always trade infield prospects for pitching (albeit no one as good as Ray).

I think it probably has to be Ray, and we either promote from within or go out into the market looking for another Semien situation, where a guy is not qualified and coming off a down year looking to bounce back. It's tough though cause every time I see Semien lately he's getting us crucial hits in important situations.

 

[Cloned]

If we dump Grichuk, tender Berrios, Stripling, Teo, and Cimber in Arb, and spend about as much as we did this year we should have about 60 million to spend this offseason.

That's theoretically enough to re-sign both Ray and Semien and still add around the edges but Bo and Vlad are due sizeable arb raises the following year. If you had to only pick one to keep between the two who would it be?

Ray seems like the most logical choice as we need pitching and have a lot of middle infield depth. Then again, Semien plays every day and leads our team in WAR, plus he's never injured, and we could always trade infield prospects for pitching (albeit no one as good as Ray).

I think it probably has to be Ray, and we either promote from within or go out into the market looking for another Semien situation, where a guy is not qualified and coming off a down year looking to bounce back. It's tough though cause every time I see Semien lately he's getting us crucial hits in important situations.

Open the wallet and sign both