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Blue Jays Discussion: End of the Hand

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zeke said:
Age 21-22, min 100pa, Blue Jays history:

1. Guerrero .312babip, 153wrc+, 4.7war650
2. Kirk .303babip, 142wrc+, 4.7war650
3. Bichette .361babip, 134wrc+, 5.0war650
4. Olerud .283babip, 118wrc+, 2.7war650
5. Lawrie .312babip, 112wrc+, 4.1war650
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What ever happened to Brett Lawrie?
 
Maestro84 said:
What ever happened to Brett Lawrie?
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zeke said:
Age 21-22, min 100pa, Blue Jays history:

1. Guerrero .312babip, 153wrc+, 4.7war650
2. Kirk .303babip, 142wrc+, 4.7war650
3. Bichette .361babip, 134wrc+, 5.0war650
4. Olerud .283babip, 118wrc+, 2.7war650
5. Lawrie .312babip, 112wrc+, 4.1war650
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It’s crazy how Lawrie imploded and it’s crazy the top three are currently on entry level contracts with us.
 
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MS said:
It's never been fully reported but it sounds like there are pretty significant mental health issues there. Sad story.

Guy is younger than George Springer but has been out of baseball for 5 years.
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All that from a strained hamstring?
 
MS said:
Huh?
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The original injury with the White Sox. In that article Lawrie goes in depth about how weird and inexplicable his injury is, and yet all of it stems from a strained hamstring injury.

He doesn't really say anything about mental health, unless you count staying out of baseball over a hammy as weird.
 
TGB said:
The original injury with the White Sox. In that article Lawrie goes in depth about how weird and inexplicable his injury is, and yet all of it stems from a strained hamstring injury. It just seems weird.
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Like I said above, there appears to be some mental health issues there. Quality MLB careers don't just end at age 26 because of a pulled hamstring.

I remember hearing the interview that article is referencing and it was ... strange. Something isn't quite right there.
 
MS said:
Like I said above, there appears to be some mental health issues there.
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That's unfairly speculative, don't you think? He is clearly stating his body doesn't feel right. There is no definitive suggestion of a mental health issue.

And to be fair, plenty of doctors told me I was crazy after years of chronic pain. Turns out I had an allergy not found with typical allergy testing. I had to pay a company in the US to conduct a proper, full spectrum test.
 
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TGB said:
That's unfairly speculative, don't you think? He is clearly stating his body doesn't feel right. There is no definitive suggestion of a mental health issue.

And to be fair, plenty of doctors told me I was crazy after years of chronic pain. Turns out I had an allergy not found with typical allergy testing. I had to pay a company in the US to conduct a proper, full spectrum test.
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I mean, it's obviously speculation. And I'm not claiming to be an expert. But that interview was one of the stranger ones I've ever heard from a young athlete and - like the author of the article I listed above - my feeling was that the player was struggling with his mental health in some fashion.
 
MS said:
I mean, it's obviously speculation. And I'm not claiming to be an expert.
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Doesn't make it right. We're talking about a person's mental state here. This sort of thing impacts a person's reputation. If you don't know, you don't know.
 
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TGB said:
Doesn't make it right. We're talking about a person's mental state here. This sort of thing impacts a person's reputation. If you don't know, you don't know.
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It's a discussion board where people post thoughts and opinions and I'm referencing an article which pretty clearly came to a similar conclusion if not outright saying it. And a very weird interview he gave.

I'm not saying he's batshit and is institutionalized or some 1970s take on things. Like, the best female tennis player in the world is dealing with mental health issues right now that might end her career. It happens. You can be functional and live a normal life but have issues/conditions that make it very difficult to play professional sports at the very highest level.

A guy who put up 4.3 WAR/162 GP was out of baseball at age 26 with no injury that a pile of the best doctors in the world could diagnose and can't even explain what's wrong with himself. There is going to be speculation.
 
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looking at the remaining schedule i think boston is the team that we can legitimately catch. they still have to play the white sox, the mariners, and the yankees after their last tb game tonight. regardless, its good that they have to play the other 2 teams in the wildcard race. things looking up all of a sudden! that last week is gonna be fun baseball :)

6x. vs tb scares the bejeezuz out of me though.
 
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Talks to Goalposts said:
It might be too much to hope for for him to be healthy and to pitch like he did at the beginning of the season for the rest of the year.

But gosh darn, I want it to happen.
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He was averaging a little under 0.1 WAR per inning, which is absolutely ridiculous and on an extremely small sample size. If he can even be at 60% of what he was, he'd be a great part of a fearsome trio with Romero and Mayza.
 
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Here's the current bullpen:

Mayza
Cimber
Merryweather
Pearson
Richards
Romano
Saucedo
Soria

Stripling is getting much closer to a return and will be in the bullpen for the rest of the season. I'd say he takes one of Saucedo, Soria, Valera, Smith, or Lamb's spot.
 
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