Prospect Info: Emil Heineman

[26Mats]

I want kids pushing players out that is the purpose of rebuilding.
They don't sound like there are no spots available they sound like they want the kids to push them to make hard decisions.

ok but who is he pushing out.

Remember when Dadonov, Hoffman and Drouin were taking up all the kids ice time? They were much worse than Anderson, Gallgher, Armia, and Dvo. I don't see it happnening. IMO Hughes will move Dvo, Armia, and Savard by the deadline (unless there are playoff implications) and there will be 3 spots open by TDL - and any injuries that happen between now and then will also open spots for young players. At least we don't have a surplus of vets to clog up those surplus spots.

 

[montreal]

We have to protect him though. Good chance he be claimed.

Next year. So this year is not a make or break, he has all year to work on things, then this time next year we'll see how it goes. If he still is struggling then who cares if we lose a possible 4th liner to waivers or not? So next could be make or break for him depending on how this year goes.

 

[Rapala]

GM's always say to make the player force their hand!

Yeah but I've come to believe our management simply because they have been proven to mean what they say.

 

[Scintillating10]

Next year. So this year is not a make or break, he has all year to work on things, then this time next year we'll see how it goes. If he still is struggling then who cares if we lose a possible 4th liner to waivers or not? So next could be make or break for him depending on how this year goes.

How is that, he was drafted same year as Barron or Guhle?

 

[morhilane]

How is that, he was drafted same year as Barron or Guhle?

It's not based on draft year, but when you signed your ELC and NHL game played. Guhle is still waiver exempted for 46 games irc.

 

[Tyson]

Man this kid needs to seize this opportunity.

 

[montreal]

How is that, he was drafted same year

because that's not what it's based off.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Man this kid needs to seize this opportunity.

I hope this kid is made strong between the ears. He will have Dvorak or Evans as center. Last 3 years proved these 2 centers didn't helped any kid to improve. How size an opportunity when Evans is making the plays?

... on a side note : Monahan isn't wearing Hab's jersey.

 

[Paddyjack]

If I had an advice to give to Heineman, it would be "kid, when you are about to shoot, aim as usual.... but shoot the other side". I swear, this guy is very good at targetting the goalie ;p

 

[Scintillating10]

He has a good shot. In rookie games looked future bottom 6 to me. Around 15 goals. Beck was only forward who looked solid NHL material. Kidney might have slim chance. He was our third best forward. Mesar I can't see it. Small, looked weak, does nothing that stood out. Sven Andrighettoish.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

He has a good shot. In rookie games looked future bottom 6 to me. Around 15 goals. Beck was only forward who looked solid NHL material. Kidney might have slim chance. He was our third best forward. Mesar I can't see it. Small, looked weak, does nothing that stood out. Sven Andrighettoish.

You didn't look at the game that well then.

Mesar was on a weaker line than Back, Heineman and Farrell. They were less dominant because they were awesker unit, but Mesar is the guy who created the most on his line. Kidney did okay, but Mesar showed more ability. Also Mesar didn't play AHL last year, so it would make sense that some areas of his game are less developed than his linemate Kidney who is older.

The things Kidney did better than Mesar were few and far between.

 

[schwang26]

You didn't look at the game that well then.

Mesar was on a weaker line than Back, Heineman and Farrell. They were less dominant because they were awesker unit, but Mesar is the guy who created the most on his line. Kidney did okay, but Mesar showed more ability. Also Mesar didn't play AHL last year, so it would make sense that some areas of his game are less developed than his linemate Kidney who is older.

The things Kidney did better than Mesar were few and far between.

I thought Mesar was better a more noticeable than Kidney but still not impactful. Both will need some serious time in Laval before getting a whiff of nhl time. Farrell too. At present time, I don’t see any in the nhl but that could change.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Man I loved this guys game in passed camps, hope he steps up

 

[Tyson]

Man I loved this guys game in passed camps, hope he steps up

If he doesn't show something significant it will be time to consider him not NHL material. He has to show something

 

[Scintillating10]

You didn't look at the game that well then.

Mesar was on a weaker line than Back, Heineman and Farrell. They were less dominant because they were awesker unit, but Mesar is the guy who created the most on his line. Kidney did okay, but Mesar showed more ability. Also Mesar didn't play AHL last year, so it would make sense that some areas of his game are less developed than his linemate Kidney who is older.

The things Kidney did better than Mesar were few and far between.

We see it different. Small guy like Mesar to make NHL has to have something in his game to stand out. Like Goal Caufield shot, Gallagher grit or Hutson shiftness, ability to control the play. There's nothing stood out, decent at everything yes, but his lack of size and strength going to hurt his chances. He's fringe NHLer tops.

 

[Tyson]

We see it different. Small guy like Mesar to make NHL has to have something in his game to stand out. Like Goal Caufield shot, Gallagher grit or Hutson shiftness, ability to control the play. There's nothing stood out, decent at everything yes, but his lack of size and strength going to hurt his chances. He's fringe NHLer tops.

Hard to argue against this. I keep waiting for him to truly show something. He was pretty good at the WJC but other than that....not so much. He is only 20 so we can give him some time.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

We see it different. Small guy like Mesar to make NHL has to have something in his game to stand out. Like Goal Caufield shot, Gallagher grit or Hutson shiftness, ability to control the play. There's nothing stood out, decent at everything yes, but his lack of size and strength going to hurt his chances. He's fringe NHLer tops.

Ok well that is a different point altogether. I don't disagree that he has a long road ahead and is no sure thing to make it, but in this weekend's games, specifically the 2nd one, he was more noticable (in a good way) than his linemates or any forward who wasn't on the first line. It's not about crowning him or anything, but just giving credit where credit is due.

 

[Scintillating10]

Hard to argue against this. I keep waiting for him to truly show something. He was pretty good at the WJC but other than that....not so much. He is only 20 so we can give him some time.

Yup, you notice those small players they need to be very good at something, at least should be exceptional, to make impact in NHL. I noticed it years ago. They may make it as a tweener. But not good piece of team. Even then, you can only carry so much small in lineup. In playoffs they going to run them, knock they off game.

because that's not what it's based off.

How long does Jersey control rights to Gritsyuk? He was drafted 5 years ago. Looks like decent player watching bits of Demidov games.

 

[Tuggy]

That's what a healthy Heineman looks like last night. Not sure what the plan will be with him, but if he can stay on the ice he'll be pushing for a spot.

 

[WeThreeKings]

That's what a healthy Heineman looks like last night. Not sure what the plan will be with him, but if he can stay on the ice he'll be pushing for a spot.

Hughes and Gorton must be staying up late at night trying to figure out how to manage the transition of our bottom 6.

 

[Saundies]

Hughes and Gorton must be staying up late at night trying to figure out how to manage the transition of our bottom 6.

It's kind of great, really. Survival of the fittest: who really wants to be here? Who's going to work as hard as possible to stay?

With the amount of injuries we've had in the last couple of years, you were probably getting 10 games whether you earned it or not just out of attrition. I don't want guys getting too comfortable coasting just because they have 1 way contracts or were on the team last year.

 

[Tuggy]

Hughes and Gorton must be staying up late at night trying to figure out how to manage the transition of our bottom 6.

Definitely.

I know every preseason it gets talked about what young players can make the team during camp, but feels a little different this year. There are a bunch banging on the door to make the team with real, legit arguments.

I said during the GDT last night that the vets will get the benefit of the doubt, but the leash won't be long. HuGo are looking to compete now and if you can't keep up, your spot is not guaranteed.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Definitely.

I know every preseason it gets talked about what young players can make the team during camp, but feels a little different this year. There are a bunch banging on the door to make the team with real, legit arguments.

I said during the GDT last night that the vets will get the benefit of the doubt, but the leash won't be long. HuGo are looking to compete now and if you can't keep up, your spot is not guaranteed.

Absolutely, it just becomes tricky with Gallagher and Anderson as they are pretty much immovable right now.

I guess the fat to be trimmed would be Dvorak and Armia to start. Pezz likely stays to eat hot dogs in the press box.

I'm wondering how the appetite grows to use some of our pick surplus to dump Gallagher and Anderson when it becomes necessary to do so.

 

[BLNY]

Absolutely, it just becomes tricky with Gallagher and Anderson as they are pretty much immovable right now.

I guess the fat to be trimmed would be Dvorak and Armia to start. Pezz likely stays to eat hot dogs in the press box.

I'm wondering how the appetite grows to use some of our pick surplus to dump Gallagher and Anderson when it becomes necessary to do so.

I think the cost will be contingent on what the cap floor is going beyond this year and how many teams are trying to stay above it. Right now, I think the cost is far too prohibitive. We'll wait another year on Anderson and Gallagher. Armia and Dvorak are deadline sales if all goes well.

 

[417]

Hughes and Gorton must be staying up late at night trying to figure out how to manage the transition of our bottom 6.

Excited for what guys like Heineman, Tuch and perhaps F. Xhekaj are going to bring to the bottom 6 future.