Prospect Info: Emil Heineman

[Natey]

Would you blame Florida for the Bennett trade? It had nothing to do with Heineman. Florida saw a great short term opportunity and they made the trade. That does not prevent Heineman to become a good player down the line.

Where did I say it prevents him from becoming a good player? I'm saying he's got some GMs to prove wrong which will give him fire. To be traded for Bennett makes you think Florida didn't think very highly of him (even if Bennett is scoring like crazy this year... he's also on a great offensive team, which helps).

 

[Natey]

Any of our local prospect gurus have an opinion on where he ranks in our prospect pool?

Behind guys like Roy, Mysak, Farrell?

Far ahead of anyone that's in our system and had to talk to Bergevin and co. in anyway.

 

[RationalExpectations]

First of all, yes, Heineman doesn't have Pettersson-like stats in the SHL. But given the fact that he plays less than 12 minutes a night with very little to no powerplay time, on what is essentially Leksand's fourth line, his 16 points in 36 games are actually really impressive considering he's playing in a league that many (including myself) would consider as the fourth-best in the world.

If you are not convinced, by all means check his stats out for yourself if you want to know more, directly from the SHL's own website.

Statistik spelare 2021/2022 - SHL.se


As for the second part of your post, my answer is simple, you can't just take one of the multiple pieces we got in exchange for Toffoli and evaluate it on its own without taking into consideration the added value that the other elements add to this trade.

Is Heineman straight-up for Toffoli a good trade? Of course not, we trade the better player AND take on much more risk given that one is still unproven.

But is Heineman, a conditional first-round pick in 2022 (most probably 18-24, but could be 2023 first+4th) and another 5th-round pick good value to get for Toffoli in a package? Seeing as we're getting a strong "B" type of prospect in Heineman, a chance at getting another "A/B+" type of prospect with the 2022 first AND more picks still? Heck yeah it's good trade value. Even if we lost arguably our best forward offensively this season.


Now to the last matter at hand, namely Heineman himself as a prospect and his place in our pipeline. In that regard, I would actually rate him a bit higher than Luke Tuch (not as physical/tough, but better skills overall and smarter on the ice) and Riley Kidney (Kidney has better vision and puck skills but Heineman is better two-way, more physical, faster and plays a more "pro-type" game).

Also, I would put Heineman on a similar-ish level as a guy like Mysak, as he is probably safer than him but maybe doesn't have the same top-end potential.

Farrell and Roy I would rate a bit higher though. The offensive potential is sky-high in their case. But so is their bust potential unfortunately.

But yeah, that's it for me. Good day and cheers.

thanks for the detailed answer. Again I have not seen him per se, so I just look at the stats and they seem low for a D+2…. It seems to me that when you play 4th line it means your team is stacked or your coach does not see you as a top 6 option yet. Maybe next year since his coach seems high on him he gets top line minutes and scores at a PPG ! That said I believe there is a high possibility that CGY pick ends up being 28-32…

 

[Vachon23]

Un recruteur tempère les attentes envers Heineman

 

[TheBuriedHab]

To me he looks like Lehkonen's future replacement. Expect Lehkonen to be dealt soon now.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Since December, Heineman has put up 7 pts (3G, 4A) in 13 GP.

He has 16 pts (11G, 5A) in 36 GP in the SHL, while averaging under 12 mins of TOI.

In the Champions League, he had 5 pts (4G, 1A) in 5 GP where his team were eliminated in the Quarter-Finals by Frolunda.

 

[Deebs]

 

[lamp9post]

To me he looks like Lehkonen's future replacement. Expect Lehkonen to be dealt soon now.

Possibly in the long term, but will Heineman be ready for an NHL role next season? If we deal Lehkonen we might have to sign a band-aid replacement for the near term.

Does anyone have an idea of projected timelines for this kid? Next season is he more likely to remain in the SHL or will he be signed and brought over?

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Habs Halifax]

Since December, Heineman has put up 7 pts (3G, 4A) in 13 GP.

He has 16 pts (11G, 5A) in 36 GP in the SHL, while averaging under 12 mins of TOI.

In the Champions League, he had 5 pts (4G, 1A) in 5 GP where his team were eliminated in the Quarter-Finals by Frolunda.

His development over the last 2 seasons is on a high curve in the positive direction. B+ type prospect who don't have glaring flaws and could turn into a A- type. A lot of people making the Lehkonen comparison but I think he has a different style of game. Only areas I would compare to Lehkonen is energy/hard work and value (pre NHL).

Could be a very good middle 6 asset once he matures in the NHL. I think his skating is similar to Lehkonen but his shot is much better. He can finish when he gets into scoring areas.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Possibly in the long term, but will Heineman be ready for an NHL role next season? If we deal Lehkonen we might have to sign a band-aid replacement for the near term.

Does anyone have an idea of projected timelines for this kid? Next season is he more likely to remain in the SHL or will he be signed and brought over?

His projection is hard to nail down cause he's been on a steep curve in the positive direction. Like most prospects, we will only have a good idea once he plays AHL. Could be next year or the year after and then we see how he translates his game to AHL/NHL.

 

[Goalfield13]

Possibly in the long term, but will Heineman be ready for an NHL role next season? If we deal Lehkonen we might have to sign a band-aid replacement for the near term.

Does anyone have an idea of projected timelines for this kid? Next season is he more likely to remain in the SHL or will he be signed and brought over?

We have RHP and Ylonen to plug holes next year. There's no rush on Heiny.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I think I'd rather have him come over to Laval as soon as next season, if only because it's easier to give him a top 9 spot and some powerplay minutes here , while we don't have much control over what Leksands coach does if he stays there. If we want to push his offensive game further he needs to be put with the right players and in the right context.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Quote from Heineman's coach from the Bexell interview:

“He had a good shot last year, but damn it’s even better this year,” Hellkvist said. “I have worked a bit with Victor Olofsson and there are some similarities with their shots, even if I think that Viktor has more of a technical shot whereas Emil uses power; Emil can shoot through a defender. Victor doesn’t do that.”

 

[Bacchus1]

6’1 vs 5’11

Yeah, but height without weight is not good. He seems to be a slightly larger version of Lehks, but really slightly. At 6’1” and 187 he is pretty skinny. Would like to see him get over 190lbs.

 

[Bacchus1]

Hum.. yes... one is 5'11 and 26 years old at his current physical peak. He was probably around 170ish when he was 20 years old.

The other is 6'1 as 20 years old and 187lbs. He will get even bigger & stronger as his body is still maturing.

I hope so. Apparently he just went through a major growth spurt, so hopefully he gains a bit more mass.

 

[Wats]

Weird he lumped Ylonen and Lehkonen, feel like they are pretty different players.

Lehkonen was a good scorer in SHL at 20 but he was always high volume shooting North/South type.

 

[sampollock]

690 has a guy on here, talking Emil.
he is 3 years away from even playing with the habs.

 

[SwiftyHab]

So if we listen to the comparisons of this guy from his coaches and other scouts we get: Mysak, Oloffson, Lehkonen, Coleman, Caufield, and Draisatl.

that’s a pretty huge range. 3rd line plugger to all star.

 

[Hins77]

So if we listen to the comparisons of this guy from his coaches and other scouts we get: Mysak, Oloffson, Lehkonen, Coleman, Caufield, and Draisatl.

that’s a pretty huge range. 3rd line plugger to all star.

Those europeans coaches had always comparing nygren, olofsson, vejdemo, ikonen and cie like the next superstar. I never put a lot of interests about their comments, they are maybe good for they caliber on their league, but in America. This is a totally different story

 

[sampollock]

the ratings for this dude is all over the board.
the guy know on 690 says he is very average, and the last 2 teams never signed him, CGY and FLA

 

[417]

He goes from Panthers & Flames system where he could just develop without unfair expectations and comparison.

To the Habs system, where in less than 24hrs he's been compared to everyone from Lehkonen all the way to Draisaitl, I think 690's already gotten 3 prospect experts to come talk about his potential.

Jeez lol

No pressure kid

 

[jfm133]

I watched him on many videos. I get a Pacioretty vibe when I watch him. Good frame, very powerful skater in straight line, great shot, able to score goals, but not a passer. Calm down. I am not saying he will be the next Pacioretty, all I say is that I see similarities. At 20, Pacioretty got 6 goals in 37 games in the AHL against men. How can you compare that with Heineman's 11 goals in 36 games inthe SHL this year? Both were born in November, so very comparable on that front. That being said, Pacioretty always got more assists. It is hard to read because offensive output depends on the role and linemates. I don't remember if Pacioretty plsyed with Desharnais in his first season in the AHL.

 

[jfm133]

It's his coach in the SHL who compred him to Draisatl. This has nothing to do with Montréal. Myself I just made a comparison with Pacioretty, that does not mean I think he will be as good as Pacioretty.

He goes from Panthers & Flames system where he could just develop without unfair expectations and comparison.

To the Habs system, where in less than 24hrs he's been compared to everyone from Lehkonen all the way to Draisaitl, I think 690's already gotten 3 prospect experts to come talk about his potential.

Jeez lol

No pressure kid

 

[morhilane]

the ratings for this dude is all over the board.
the guy know on 690 says he is very average, and the last 2 teams never signed him, CGY and FLA

They didn't sign him because he has a SHL contract, which means he can't play in the AHL. It's SHL or NHL and he's not ready for the NHL yet. No point losing a contract slot for a prospect who won't play on NA ice.