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Not ever going back down I bet. So much to root for here if he peaks near full potential wow.Heineman is coming to camp to make this team. I think he will open many eyes.
Not ever going back down I bet. So much to root for here if he peaks near full potential wow.Heineman is coming to camp to make this team. I think he will open many eyes.
Hamilton years for sureI can’t remember the last time our farm team had this amount of rookie prospect talent going into their first pro year?
Yeah but I feel we go through this every 3-4 years and then 90% of them bust..In think this group is much better.
Gally is close to Roy as a prospect. Beaulieu and Tinordi are probably similar to Mailloux and Struble.
But then you add Farrell, Kidney, Mesar, Heineman.
And you know we’ll have a second wave next year with Beck, Hutson, Reinbacher, etc.
No comparison IMO
And most definitely should. We have seen many errors committed by past Habs regimes ( one offs usually not a thing but patterns / approach hurt ) and one that happened under Houle and Gainey was moving guys and not knowing what we had. So I'm all for giving as many guys as possible real shots. So Heinman maybe a bit better than Ylonen ? Well Ylonen we lose on waivers and Heineman we don't, so Ylonen stays and he gets a fair shot. No damage will happen to Heinman having to wait a bit. Some, many, might argue the 14 best forwards make the team and that's that, and I get it , I just disagree.
2012-13. Gallagher, Beaulieu, Tinordi, Bournival, Holland, Ellis, Pateryn, Kristo, Quailer. All were 'legit' prospects at the time. A few more guys came at the end of the season as well. Of course that meant Joey Tenute and Mike Blunden needed to be on the first line.
Except for the Drouin trade, MB was very good at assessing our players and not losing or trading good ones for less than their value.The last time the Habs lost a good player to waivers was approximately twenty years ago: Beauchemin and Hainsey.
I agree we get a quantity of players every so often but what we don’t see is that quantity of players paired with a quality of talent. Whats killed us in the past is player development within our farm system…..many of the successful teams take those quality players and turn them into (at least) serviceable NHL players. We, unfortunately, don‘t have a farm team staff that have a proven track record of developing (at least) serviceable NHL players. We have fired many of the sycophantic hires that killed cohesiveness but we have a long way to go.Yeah but I feel we go through this every 3-4 years and then 90% of them bust..
He beat him out last camp until he got injured.Good chance he beats out Ylonen in camp
He should make team out of camp. But may have to play few games in Laval because others are out of options. Usually injury or two in camp thoughNot ever going back down I bet. So much to root for here if he peaks near full potential wow.
Absolutely agree.............not to mention how well he played in a short stint last year with the Rocket.I think Heineman is going to be pushing hard for a roster spot. It'll be interesting to see how things take shape on the wings. I won't be surprised if he outplays multiple other players in camp that are more "expected" to make the team. I think it will be more of a question of how to handle the roster with consideration of waivers.
That lineup shows how we sorely lack a top-6 forward right now, even in a development year.i have him making our line up this year
Caufield - Suzuki - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
Heinemen - Monahan - Gallagher
RHP - Evans - Armia
Ylonen/Pezz
Dvorak ( injured )
I'm thinking the following forwards are locks:
Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, Caufield, Monahan, Anderson, Dvorak, Gallagher (8)
I doubt Evans or Armia are getting waived so basically locked as well (2)
That leaves 3-4 spots that will be determined in training camp between:
Pezzetta, Slafkovsky, Ylonen, Harvey-Pinard, L.Andersson, Farrell, Heineman, Legare, Roy, Beck, Mesar, Condotta.
Yes i have Anderson with Suzuki/Caufield now because we dont really have better options today but i do really like Heinemen so maybe he becomes a good top 6 player for us soon theres also maybe Joshua Roy he was great for Team CanadaThat lineup shows how we sorely lack a top-6 forward right now, even in a development year.
Add a genuine top-6 Rain Anderson's spot and zlidehim down to the third line and you have an interesting lineup.
Caufield - Suzuki - XXX
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
Heinemen - Monahan - Anderson
RHP/Armia - Evans - Armia/Gallagher
Ylonen/Pezz
Dvorak ( injured )
In a perfect world, Heineman could develop chemistry with Suzuki and Caufield, bringing size and another shooting option that Anderson brings, but better hockey IQ than the veteran RW to complement the Caufield-Suzuki dynamic duo.
RHP 14 goals in 34 NHL games and you think Ylonen makes it over him?I'm thinking the following forwards are locks:
Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, Caufield, Monahan, Anderson, Dvorak, Gallagher (8)
I doubt Evans or Armia are getting waived so basically locked as well (2)
That leaves 3-4 spots that will be determined in training camp between:
Pezzetta, Slafkovsky, Ylonen, Harvey-Pinard, L.Andersson, Farrell, Heineman, Legare, Roy, Beck, Mesar, Condotta.
I'm betting on the 3 in bold so it's going to be real tough for Heineman to win a spot if everyone is healthy. Also betting they go with 8 dmen instead of 14 forwards or 3 goalies.
RHP was shooting 30% and he was playing top line around 19 minutes, he won’t reproduce that this season. Ylonen was producing at a normal rythme with 13 minutes of ice time and he got pretty much the same production as RHP.RHP 14 goals in 34 NHL games and you think Ylonen makes it over him?
Not a chance lol
Heineman is obviously starting in Laval, but will obviously be called up at some point through injuries
You have to reward the one who earns it. Period. Heineman has the tools!RHP was shooting 30% and he was playing top line around 19 minutes, he won’t reproduce that this season. Ylonen was producing at a normal rythme with 13 minutes of ice time and he got pretty much the same production as RHP.
Both are not locks in the lineup, if a guy like Heineman has a better camp than either he should get the spot in my opinion.
Luckily, that isn't how management/coaching staff look at itRHP was shooting 30% and he was playing top line around 19 minutes, he won’t reproduce that this season. Ylonen was producing at a normal rythme with 13 minutes of ice time and he got pretty much the same production as RHP.
Both are not locks in the lineup, if a guy like Heineman has a better camp than either he should get the spot in my opinion.
He does! Pretty excited to see where he’s atYou have to reward the one who earns it. Period. Heineman has the tools!
At the same time you don't lose Ylonen on waivers after having a 0.5ppg end to his season. 16 points in half a year in a fourth line role is fairly impressive and shows there's something there worth exploring. RHP and Heinemen are waiver exempt, they're competing with each other and Farrell. I would say a very small chance Slaf also starts in Laval if two of those three guys outplay him.You have to reward the one who earns it. Period. Heineman has the tools!
Good chance he beats out Ylonen in camp