Player Discussion Emil Heineman
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ChesterNimitz
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I’d rather him with the big club than Drouin who is a lost cause.
If the Habs really see something in Emil they should waive and send Drouin to Laval and make room for these players. Same with Armia or whoever seems like a dead end.
If we are interested in buiding a contender, Ylonen and RHP are low priority.
If Heineman is potentially in the picture when we hit contention window, all that matters is where to play him so he gets better, faster. I don't think Sweden is best for his development and I have zero interest in promoting Sweden's pro league.
If Emil can hold his own in the bottom six, we can keep him here until at least December 1st, then only send him to Laval if ne needs more minutes or to polish his D game.
Or, if his Swedish club realizes that we are ready to do that, they may be willing to negotiate something else, such as letting him play in Laval for half a season and if he does not graduate after that, going home for the rest of the year.
Personally, I find Heineman could become a bigger, more sniperish version of Lehkonen, and is worth being invested in.
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The habs will never waive Drouin. Just forget about this thought.
They might if he has a bad camp. Or Monahan, or Armia or Hoffman if he stinks.
Many teams might do this, by the way. The waiver wire will be interesting.
The habs will not waive Drouin for the simple fact of the media storm it will create. Yes, yes...the GM shouldn't care. But they do.
Realistically, you are probably right. Drouin usually has a good camp, and it is highly likely there will be others they could waive before Drouin.
But if he was really dreadful, Hughes would do it, I think.
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Hence the invisible anchor around Montreal's general managers for the past half century.
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Would it really be that bad though ? I don't get any indication that Drouin is anywhere near popular enough in the fan base to be a hill that local media would die on. Not for very long at least.
Did any reporter ask why Heineman was not playing yesterday even though he didn't play in the Red vs. White scrimmage?
yes. It will be bad. Stop dreaming dreams that will never happen.
Vachon23
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I actually think it can be good thing for Heineman to go back in the SHL and dominate the league while staying healthy all year
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Hughes should do it to send a message. It's a no-loss move -- early in the season, no expectations, Drouin's had many chances, and he's having a mediocre camp. Hughes can have MSL say it was his decision. It would be drawing a line in the sand... unfortunately as stated above, we have an invisible anchor tied around our necks and need to accommodate a few thousand non-fans.
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dominate the league? I'd be happy just to see him get a bigger role, last year he was a 3rd and 4th liner if I'm not mistaken. I know the game I watched where he got the season ending concussion he was on the 3rd line. I know his SHL team this year returned 5 of their top 6 scorers from last season (Max Veronneau is AHL bound) but so far they have struggled to score in the 1st 3 games of the season, only team in the SHL with less then 6 goals for.
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I would rather have him play in a top 6 role in Laval, I think it would be best for his confidence/development, kid could really produce a good amount of pts and help Laval to go far in playoffs.
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Personally, I think he needs to play the NA game so I rather him play AHL and be one of the first call ups if we make trades or get some injuries.
After the Toffoli trade and getting to know him more, I liked him more and more. Great piece to have and those big boys that skate well and work hard are valuable.
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He’ll play in the NHL starting this year or next. I say let’s watch and see how he performs in the pre-season games before making a decision. If he does well and is a contributing player I see little advantage in him playing against lesser competition in the AHL. If he struggles, then by all means let him hone his game on the smaller ice surface in Laval. I think his performance will demonstrate that he is NHL ready and earn him a roster spot almost from the start.
Adam Michaels
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Don't expect him to go to the SHL and dominate there. He'll mostly play in the Bottom-6 there. He gets time in the Top-6, but Leksands usually has him in the Bottom-6.
I hope that if he doesn't make the Habs, that Leksands agrees to let him stay. Because they have priority over Laval this year only.
Hughes should neither target Drouin more than others on purpose "to send a message", nor should he refrain from doing so if Drouin's camp is very disappointing and worse than other forwards with big contracts.
Alternatives matter. If David Savard gets waived at age 32 with three years left at $3.5M, because all four of Guhle, Harris, Barron and Xhekaj play lights out, while Wideman, Matheson and Schueneman outperform him too, people will understand.
But if Drouin is waived at age 27 while Hoffman, Monahan, or Armia stink but are kept, there will be criticism if it looks like the move was purposely done for political reasons.
One more thing: I would prioritize waiving a guy with multiple years left over someone with just this year left, if it is close between them. Hoffman will be 34 at the end of his contract, and Armia 32. They are more likely to decline than Jo and still have term, so they are much more likely to clear waivers, whereas if Drouin or Monahan are lost on waivers, we MAY be losing out on a TDL return of some sort.
Vachon23
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Yes I should't have said dominate the league
I wanted to say that I wish that he ca have the same type of season that Lehkonen had before coming in the NHL
We only need to do that until December 1st. After that, Heineman could be sent down if needed.
I would personally LOVE IT if Heineman performs so well he makes the team up front on merit. Same with Slaf and even Beck, though he is a very long shot right now.
If Slaf, Heineman, Beck and Guhle all play well this year, then they might be making IMPACTS by their third year and we could contend in 2025 with seven guys (those four, plus the two guys we draft 1st round next year plus Roy) on Entry Level Contracts. Primeau will also still be under the contract just signed for $1.0M
