Player Discussion Emil Heineman
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Adam Michaels
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Checked with Patrik Bexell to see if it's true that he won't need to be sent back to Sweden next year even if he's under contract with Leksands.
BigDaddyLurch
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...Hoffman getting a free pass is bullshyte...if he gets outplayed by one or more of the rooks, he should either sit his arse out or go to Laval...that has nothing to do with the Tank; he isn't worth anything, he's not going to be worth anything anytime in the future, so why stunt the growth of a good young player so we can watch Hoff not give two f**ks and float uselessly??...
...I don't buy that...even Hoffman can see that he's a useless plug now and that Bargain Bin made an egregious error in signing him...if he is outplayed by enough kids that he doesn't deserve a spot on the NHL roster, then he shouldn't be any different than any other player and take the demotion with Class...if he doesn't, then it's a reflection of Hoffman's character, not the team's or HuGo's...
Sorinth
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I don't see anything regarding that. And the ECHL website FAQ even talks about players on NHL contracts have different rules to determine if they count as a "veteran" player or not, and since age 24 is mentioned we aren't talking guys on their ELC. Do you have a source for the whole ELC only?
Steve Shutt
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Heineman is only 20 - give him a tonne of ice time in the AHL or SHL. No need to rush him.
Hoffman seems to have great energy with the young guys from a few videos that HabsTv have published. He also still has a pretty decent career goals/per game pace over 82 games with last season being the only exception - let's see if he can bounce back
Hoffman seems to have great energy with the young guys from a few videos that HabsTv have published. He also still has a pretty decent career goals/per game pace over 82 games with last season being the only exception - let's see if he can bounce back
| GP | G | G Pace | |||||||||||
| 2014-15 | Ottawa Senators | NHL | 79 | 27 | 28 | ||||||||
| 2015-16 | Ottawa Senators | NHL | 78 | 29 | 30 | ||||||||
| 2016-17 | Ottawa Senators | NHL | 74 | 26 | 29 | ||||||||
| 2017-18 | Ottawa Senators | NHL | 82 | 22 | 34 | ||||||||
| 2018-19 | Florida Panthers | NHL | 82 | 36 | 34 | ||||||||
| 2019-20 | Florida Panthers | NHL | 69 | 29 | 34 | ||||||||
| 2020-21 | St. Louis Blues | NHL | 52 | 17 | 27 | ||||||||
| 2021-22 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 67 | 15 | 18 |
Captain97
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Its in the NHL CBA search ECHL it will show up, but technically I misspoke. Non elc players can be sent but need to agree to go.
xX SEYF Xx
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Per Renaud Lavoie, it's either NHL or Sweden.
And that doesn't apply to Slafkovsky and Mesar coz they first rounders.
Link:
www.tvasports.ca
And that doesn't apply to Slafkovsky and Mesar coz they first rounders.
Link:
Justin Barron touché par les propos de Crosby - TVA Sports
L'espoir du CH a la chance de s'entraîner l'été avec Crosby et Nathan MacKinnon.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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SHL then. Hopefully he gets a lot of ice time and continues to progress.Per Renaud Lavoie, it's either NHL or Sweden.
And that doesn't apply to Slafkovsky and Mesar coz they first rounders.
Link:
Justin Barron touché par les propos de Crosby - TVA Sports
L'espoir du CH a la chance de s'entraîner l'été avec Crosby et Nathan MacKinnon.
26Mats
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Per Renaud Lavoie, it's either NHL or Sweden.
And that doesn't apply to Slafkovsky and Mesar coz they first rounders.
Link:
Justin Barron touché par les propos de Crosby - TVA Sports
L'espoir du CH a la chance de s'entraîner l'été avec Crosby et Nathan MacKinnon.
Without quoting heineman, rds.ca had a report where they said Heineman would like to play in the AHL, if not montreal, if something can be worked out with the swedish club. But probably can't work anything out...
Adam Michaels
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Heineman was asked after the game against Buffalo on Thursday if he'll go back to Europe or go to Laval if he doesn't make the Habs.
His answer was that they're still discussing it. I don't know if that is true or if he just didn't want to flat out say it'll be Habs or Europe.
SlafySZN
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calder candidate
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Pretty sure we don't have a choice and he has to go back because of is contract, the fact that he didn't say it out right, I'm hoping it means that the he and the habs are trying to work something out to bring him over to play in the AHL.
FerrisRox
"Wanna go, Prettyboy?"
You're not being realistic or you're simply blinded by a bias against him.
He paced for nearly 20-goals last season despite the team being in chaos mode for most of the campaign and the roster being in an endless state of flux. You may not like him, but pretending he's a "useless plug" who belongs in the AHL just simply isn't a realistic take on Mike Hoffman.
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BigDaddyLurch
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...and he cost the team damn near every game with braindead turnovers and absolutely no defensive ability (or even the WILL to actually try to defend)...and what I'm saying is that IF HE is outplayed by a few of the kids and should be knocked off the Roster, whether it be the Press Box or Laval, then that's what should happen...he doesn't just GET a Roster spot because he was once a pretty good offensive player, cuz that guy's been gone for years...
FerrisRox
"Wanna go, Prettyboy?"
I mean, except that he isn't gone, he was a 40-point 20-goal guy last year on a car wreck of a roster.
Hoffman's job is to be a place holder and let younger guys get experience and confidence in the minors. The notion that Hoffman's going to get pushed off the roster by multiple rookies who are gonna be anywhere in the area of 20-goals and 40-points is pure fantasy.
What's the best line to highlight Hoffman's skills?
Monahan - Dach - Hoffman
Drouin - Dvorak - Hoffman
Drouin - Monahan - Hoffman
Slafkovsky - Monahan - Hoffman
Caufield - Suzuki - Hoffman
Monahan - Dvorak - Hoffman
Drouin - evans - Hoffman
Slafkovsky - Dach - Hoffman
Team_Spirit
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Why is this thread about the Hoff. Please stop.
Canadienna
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BigDaddyLurch
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...and again, how well did that 40-point waste of space actually do last year??...or are you just going to stat-watch and not comment on his own personal train wreck of a season in which he well cost us WINS with his pathetic play everywhere else but when he's shooting the puck??...and I said IF HE GETS OUTPLAYED by a few young players he doesn't just deserve a spot cuz he was once a half-decent player...so your continued replies at small bits and pieces of the posts of mine you are quoting instead of the at what I'm actually saying with my posts is just being purposefully disingenuous for the sake of arguing a point that he ISN'T going to get outplayed and it's all moot discussion, a scenario that, while most likely to take place, I am not even discussing...
Adam Michaels
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Marco is saying simply that Leksands can agree to let Heineman play in Laval. However, he mentions that likelihood is really small because there is no advantage for them.
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montreal
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Bad example, Klimovich played in Belarus, there is no PTA in place between the NHL-IIHF and Belarus so this doesn't apply.
This is the exact thing that we went through last year with Norlinder. As a non 1st round pick it was NHL or back to his SHL club unless you keep him on the NHL roster till December, after that he can be sent down but you risk burning a bridge with the SHL as they stated they clearly want him back if he's not on the Habs.
Habs Halifax
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Once the Toffoli trade was made and I started to see what kind of game this kid has, I liked him more and more. Love the parts of his game and how he works hard
Great Skater
Strong on the puck and has the muscle to go along with it.
Finds ways to score
Great middle 6F type you can plug in anywhere to spark a line. I think he's the type to have equal as much goals as he does assists. I'm thinking a Hyman type more than a Lehkonen type.
Great Skater
Strong on the puck and has the muscle to go along with it.
Finds ways to score
Great middle 6F type you can plug in anywhere to spark a line. I think he's the type to have equal as much goals as he does assists. I'm thinking a Hyman type more than a Lehkonen type.
DAChampion
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Vachon23
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