Value of: Elias Pettersson

[AHLdepth]

This is one time where the Devils just sit back and say "we good" and watch the craziness continue.

Please call when Q. Hughes is available though.

Make no doubt, if Petey is actually moved, offers for Hughes will be listened to

 

[TageGod]

Well I definitely understand the hesitation. Dahlin will probably be around 10M. Does EP deserve that? Certainly. But that number comes from a skewed narrative that he just wants to get paid and the original story was that he just wants to win. Maybe he's happy with 8M on a good team because there's not a whole lot of 10M space good teams.

Let's say it's an Eichel like return. 1st, 2nd, good roster player and A (not A+) prospect. Maybe they do cave on Savoie or Benson, JJP and some picks. That's far from gutting the farm. You have Kulich, Rosen, remaining of Savoie/Benson not yet in the NHL as well as Quinn, Greenway Mitts, VO, possibly Krebs already in your middle 6. And those are just a few that could step in as early as this season with several other guys a year or two away. You can even toss in a Kisakov or Nadeau type and it still wouldn't hurt.

Does it hurt Cozens to be the "3rd line C?" Nah. We've hashed it out on our boards. 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines had near identical TOI and very close to 1st line. There just isn't much of a difference.

I don't know how seriously Adams would make a bid and I've stated that he probably won't move prospects until he has to move them but maybe he's just waiting for the right trade. That's 3 excellent young centers to go with our talented young D core with still lots more ELCs waiting to make the team.

All the lines were streaky/ineffective for periods so he just rolled 2/3/4 unless one was hot. It's not surprising ice time was similar. Won't be the same if our second line improves and is more consistent though.

If it is 1st/2nd/Krebs/Kulich that is not selling the farm. 4 first round value is not happening.

 

[Matt Ress]

All the lines were streaky/ineffective for periods so he just rolled 2/3/4 unless one was hot. It's not surprising ice time was similar. Won't be the same if our second line improves and is more consistent though.

If it is 1st/2nd/Krebs/Kulich that is not selling the farm. 4 first round value is not happening.

Eh I remember Granato saying for a couple years that they would roll 4 lines and they have. Maybe that changes but a lot of people thought the 1st line could have gotten more ice time as the clear cut best line.

It's on Adams. Eventually he will make a big consolidation trade so it will be interesting to see when it happens.

 

[TS Quint]

A Buffalo tax? Like how expensive Thompson and Cozens were to sign? What a joke. I really don't even care If he signs for 10m. Pettersson will want more than 10m for sure.

No need to get upset. you were just a couple million off Dahlins up coming AAV. Don’t pretend to think you understand the contacts.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Anyone and anything on the Rangers is on offer except for Fox .

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

If he’s willing to extend in Ottawa, I could see a package around Norris, a top prospect, protected 1st and maybe a bit of change n top

EDIT: This would be after the season, and assuming Norris has a 30+ goal, productive season as a shutdown C.

 

[HairyKneel]

If he’s willing to extend in Ottawa, I could see a package around Norris, a top prospect, protected 1st and maybe a bit of change n top

Lol that is terrible. Norris has a paper shoulder. Start with one of Stutzle, Brady or Sanderson.

 

[LemonSauceD]

If he’s willing to extend in Ottawa, I could see a package around Norris, a top prospect, protected 1st and maybe a bit of change n top

Sanderson would be coming back the other way in any trade scenario with the Sens.

 

[Xirik]

Sanderson would be coming back the other way in any trade scenario with the Sens.

so

Sanderson for Pettersson


Good deal!

 

[Sparksrus3]

Bo Horvat and Scott Mayfield

 

[yianik]

EP is RFA after this year. If I'm the Nucks I look at how the team finished 20-12-4 under Tocchet and hope next year that's how it goes and EP extends. I would not trade this guy now.

As a Habs fan I don't like trading big assets for a guy whose closing in on UFA status and I can't extend.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Lol that is terrible. Norris has a paper shoulder. Start with one of Stutzle, Brady or Sanderson.

Lol, if Pettersson refuses to sign with Vancouver theres no chance he returns a player of that caliber. But hey, good luck with that.

Sanderson would be coming back the other way in any trade scenario with the Sens.

No, he really wouldn't.... and if you think you'll get a Sanderson-caliber player in return for a refusing-to-sign EP, you'll be very disappointed.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Bo Horvat and Scott Mayfield

Are we just saying names at this point?

Lol, if Pettersson refuses to sign with Vancouver theres no chance he returns a player of that caliber. But hey, good luck with that.

You think he’d rather sign with Ottawa?Good luck with that.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Lol that is terrible. Norris has a paper shoulder. Start with one of Stutzle, Brady or Sanderson.

If we trade EP it means he wants out, if he wants out, there is absolutely ZERO chance we get a player like Stutzle or Brady for him. Lose that idealistic fantasy right now.

Sanderson, is another story.

 

[HairyKneel]

Lol, if Pettersson refuses to sign with Vancouver theres no chance he returns a player of that caliber. But hey, good luck with that.

No, he really wouldn't.... and if you think you'll get a Sanderson-caliber player in return for a refusing-to-sign EP, you'll be very disappointed.

Well EP is better than all three of those players, so there’s that. They aren’t selling him for a pile of junk. He’s 24 with 2 years of team control left. He’s a top 6 Centre in the game.

If we trade EP it means he wants out, if he wants out, there is absolutely ZERO chance we get a player like Stutzle or Brady for him. Lose that idealistic fantasy right now.

Sanderson, is another story.

Then I guess he isn’t going to Ottawa. He’s substantially better than any of those three guys.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

You think he’d rather sign with Ottawa?Good luck with that.

Do you know what the word "if" means? Because you seem to be struggling with it.

Well EP is better than all three of those players, so there’s that. They aren’t selling him for a pile of junk. He’s 24 with 2 years of team control left. He’s a top 6 Centre in the game.


Then I guess he isn’t going to Ottawa. He’s substantially better than any of those three guys.

Yeah, you're right, when guys refuse to sign with their team they always return an equivalent player with better term. That's definitely the pattern in trades. The package I offered wouldn't be one of the biggest value packages moved in a decade - no, you're definitely right.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Do you know what the word "if" means? Because you seem to be struggling with it.

I’m struggling with your thought process that Pettersson would be unwilling to re-sign with Vancouver but somehow gung-ho for Ottawa. Keep the hopes alive I guess!

 

[LemonSauceD]

Do you know what the word "if" means? Because you seem to be struggling with it.

Yeah, you're right, when guys refuse to sign with their team they always return an equivalent player with better term. That's definitely the pattern in trades. The package I offered wouldn't be one of the biggest value packages moved in a decade - no, you're definitely right.

Why do fans act like this when you get called out on a crappy proposal. “He won’t even get that much!”

It’s not a Dubois situation where he’s asked our two times and has glaringly on ice issues. We’re talking about a 100 point RFA center.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I’m struggling with your thought process that Pettersson would be unwilling to re-sign with Vancouver but somehow gung-ho for Ottawa. Keep the hopes alive I guess!

If Vancouver sucks... and Ottawa doesn't... he might be willing to re-sign. We can't predict the future, hence the word "if". If Pettersson is not willing to sign in Vancouver, but is willing to sign in Ottawa, they would likely make an offer. Is that so hard to grasp as a hypothetical possibility? If so, I would agree that you're struggling.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If Vancouver sucks... and Ottawa doesn't... he might be willing to re-sign. We can't predict the future, hence the word "if". If Pettersson is not willing to sign in Vancouver, but is willing to sign in Ottawa, they would likely make an offer. Is that so hard to grasp as a hypothetical possibility? If so, I would agree that you're struggling.

Ah yes, fantasyland. Don’t get so bent out of shape because someone questioned why Ottawa would be a chosen destination for a premier player.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

It has nothing to do with what ranking Jiricek is in our prospect pool and more to do with team building. NJ fans are happy to tell everyone Severson cant be your best righty and its not wrong. Jiricek slots everyone behind him long term.

Id love Petterson obviously and Columbus has a ton of assets outside of Jiricek to offer depending on what Vancouver would want to do should they actually need to move Petterson. I dont think Jarmo could stomach moving 2 pieces that important to the future in the same deal

I don't know if I've ever agreed with a post more than this one.

I see Jiricek as a cornerstone piece for CBJ for years to come, I don't think there are many players they'd move him for in the league and the one's they'd trade him for aren't going anywhere.

Severson is a good stop-gap top pairing D until Jiricek takes that spot from him and everyone moves down to the where they belong.

I'm sure they'd consider almost every other prospect in the organization for EP but not Jiricek

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Ah yes, fantasyland. Don’t get so bent out of shape because someone questioned why Ottawa would be a chosen destination for a premier player.

Peterson has only ever indicated that he wants to be on a team that’s competing and won’t sign with a team that’s not competing.

It’s a fantasy that Ottawa could do well while Vancouver wouldn’t? You have a pretty shoddy imagination. It's literally one of four possible outcomes...

Anyways, you can keep on being pedantic and policing simple, hypothetical speculation… and I’ll let you be yourself

 

[EverTheCynic]

Peterson has only ever indicated that he wants to be on a team that’s competing and won’t sign with a team that’s not competing.

It’s a fantasy that Ottawa could do well while Vancouver wouldn’t? You have a pretty shoddy imagination.

Anyways, you can keep on being pedantic and policing simple, hypothetical speculation… and I’ll let you be yourself

I mean, I'm a Canucks fan and Ottawa is in a great spot. We're kinda screwed.

Ottawa is gonna be a good team. I don't see there being many issues there.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I mean, I'm a Canucks fan and Ottawa is in a great spot. We're kinda screwed.

Ottawa is gonna be a good team. I don't see there being many issues there.

Funny thing is, I would put money on EP re-signing in Vancouver. But hey, I'm living in fantasy land so you probably shouldn't put much stock into my opinion

 

[Peter Griffin]

Peterson has only ever indicated that he wants to be on a team that’s competing and won’t sign with a team that’s not competing.

It’s a fantasy that Ottawa could do well while Vancouver wouldn’t? You have a pretty shoddy imagination. It's literally one of four possible outcomes...

Anyways, you can keep on being pedantic and policing simple, hypothetical speculation… and I’ll let you be yourself

The likelihood that EP would choose Ottawa as the destination he would want to re-sign with longterm is so slim it’s really not even worth discussing. But you do you.

Your offer sucked anyway. Norris at $8M longterm isn’t an attractive main asset for EP at all.