Proposal: Eichel to Rangers
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Not for sale.
The performances of Cozens are the biggest reason why an Eichel trade is even a discussion.
Lindberg Cheese
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I didn’t see a top 5 C in this thread. Eichel is top 10 at best which is now predicated on how he comes back from surgery.You want a top 5 center in the league and your offer is a floundering top prospect, a mid 1st in a bad draft, a goalie you need to get rid of before Seattle takes him, and a 28 year old that's UFA in a year.
How the f*** is this still open?
sabremike
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Know who thinks that take is a load of shite and would laugh right in your face if you said it to them?
Other NHL players.
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He's not a top 5 center, yet. But he eventually will be as Crosby gets older. (Unless he ages like Jagr).
McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisaitl in any other you want to put them.
Matthews & Crosby to round out 4th and 5th. That makes him not a top 5 current center in the NHL. Eichel is most definitely in the next set of tiers. Mark Scheifele doesn't get enough credit for what he does and Barkov is a beast, but I think Eichel is more dominate and gifted. Aho isn't for sale, but call me crazy, I'd take Aho over Eichel on a team that already has an elite play driver like Panarin.
Djp
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You want a top 5 center in the league and your offer is a floundering top prospect, a mid 1st in a bad draft, a goalie you need to get rid of before Seattle takes him, and a 28 year old that's UFA in a year.
How the f*** is this still open?
it’s Groundhog Day....
Hockeyholic
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No - because McDavid cap hit needs to be balanced by adding in players that aren't just on ELC deals. If you want to ignore contracts, yes, we would ship them overnight. The gap difference between McDavid and Eichel is a lot higher than some might want to admit. McDavid is so enjoyable to watch that it doesn't even matter what holes we create.
Hockeyholic
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I'd love to hear any poster's rationale for there not being an ocean sized gap difference between these two.
Replace Strome with Lafreniere. LOL. Sabres are dying for a guy with an expiring contract. Sure.
There is. It would cost the Rangers way more for McDavid. Who thinks otherwise?
Eichel is signed long-term. He has limited flexibility other than NMC in 16 months. Even then, Sabres don't have to trade him. It's not Hall, where he's gone for nothing if we don't accept his time. We actually want to keep Eichel.
Haha comparing a team's success to a 29 year old player. Completely the same thing haha. Ahh you are desperate. Laughable
Barnaby
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Sure, that’s fair. Although, Idk if I’d say bigger. I just feel like NYR has the pieces and will eventually make a big move. Eichel, if healthy, could be a great pick up. However that cap hit, plus the major pieces to acquire him would just be too much for me given his health. Maybe during next season he proves he’s fine and the cost might go up at that point but I’d rather do that then trade major assets and have my fingers crossed. God forbid he’s not 100% and never is then you just traded blue chip ELC’s for a cap hit that limits all other moves for the foreseeable future.
WYFR
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NYR are going to have to give two of Fox/Laf/Kakko/Chytil/Sherterkin to start the conversation. There'd be more to work out but without two of those listed it's not going anywhere
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the deal is really bad for Buffalo, unless Eichel was demanding a trade and saying he'd only to to the Rangers
Eichel is a franchise C with top 5 in the league potential (season by season everyone below McDavid flip flops positions)
Kakko hasnt proven himself as a top 6 player yet ...if he doesnt reach that potential within the next 2 seasons, he'll be labeled a bust
Laf is in a similar boat, as they had huge draft hype, but, havent adjusted to the NHL 'yet' ...but, you cant really judge a youngster until he's in his 4th season, other than making projections. Both can just flip a switch and hit stardom
MacKinnon had a great rookie season than wasnt much until season 5, and look at him now. but seasons 2-4 his stats are like a 2nd liner at best, and now he's always in the top 5 in the NHL argument (or higher)
Eichel is a franchise C with top 5 in the league potential (season by season everyone below McDavid flip flops positions)
Kakko hasnt proven himself as a top 6 player yet ...if he doesnt reach that potential within the next 2 seasons, he'll be labeled a bust
Laf is in a similar boat, as they had huge draft hype, but, havent adjusted to the NHL 'yet' ...but, you cant really judge a youngster until he's in his 4th season, other than making projections. Both can just flip a switch and hit stardom
MacKinnon had a great rookie season than wasnt much until season 5, and look at him now. but seasons 2-4 his stats are like a 2nd liner at best, and now he's always in the top 5 in the NHL argument (or higher)
Hockeyholic
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Nobody thinks otherwise that I know of.
But the Rangers may not trade said three players for McDavid (Or anyone) where they are on their ELC. And McDavid makes 12 million per season.
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I get it for sure there is a risk.Of course the way our young players are playing now with Eichel and Ullmark out and still winning or staying close could bode well for us. Ad Eichel and Ullmark the turnaround can be real quick.Who knows? Will be interesting summer and beginning of next season for sure!
I think you can add a lottery pick & possibly K'Andre Miller to that list - which is why i don't think the OP is as bad as some of the other recent NYR Eichel proposals which included exactly zero of these valuable assets.
I'm assuming Strome was included for cap purposes - so i give it a pass. Georgiev is worthless, relatively speaking.
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and i think Eichel be the next player on that list ...someone always has a career/off year and slides in/out, but there are your likely consensus top 5 C in the league
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Columbus with 3 first round picks was a suitor I had not considered before opening this thread at least. Rangers remain the front runner I say cause they can offer Kakko+ without thinking twice really.
NyQuil
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It's too bad Eichel got injured, because if he were healthy, and hypothetically in last year's draft, he absolutely would have been selected 1st overall over Laf.
Thanks to the draft lottery, the Rangers don't even really need Kappo and Laf to hit the way the other teams around them in the draft order do with their own high picks.
You'd be nuts not to try and pry him out of Buffalo. Not many teams have recent 1st AND 2nd overall picks as spare parts.
I remember reading the Rangers board immediately after the draft, and the comments were like, "Does Laf play centre?" Well Eichel does, very well in fact.
But as much as Buffalo would like two elite roster players, they'll only get one IMO. The going rate for potentially disgruntled superstars doesn't seem to extend that far.
Thanks to the draft lottery, the Rangers don't even really need Kappo and Laf to hit the way the other teams around them in the draft order do with their own high picks.
You'd be nuts not to try and pry him out of Buffalo. Not many teams have recent 1st AND 2nd overall picks as spare parts.
I remember reading the Rangers board immediately after the draft, and the comments were like, "Does Laf play centre?" Well Eichel does, very well in fact.
But as much as Buffalo would like two elite roster players, they'll only get one IMO. The going rate for potentially disgruntled superstars doesn't seem to extend that far.
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