Player Discussion: Ehlers

I'd love to keep Ehlers and I think the team would too.

I don't think Ehlers is interested - regardless of usage or salary. Just my personal opinion.
If this was the case he would have been traded in the off season just like Trouba and PLD were when Chevy knew they would play out the season on the way to UFA status.
 
He's not blowing smoke-- he is a classy guy who, I am sure, feels special ties to Winnipeg and his Jets family. But sometimes you have to leave your family to fully develop to your potential.

A few months ago, I predicted the likelihood of Ehlers staying as <50%. Putting myself in his head and the heads of his closest advisors, including his father, I would have made the decision to leave, based on utilization alone. That has changed this year and he is now playing much closer (but not fully) to his potential, so it's closer to a 50:50 proposition.

Keep in mind there are teams in the Eastern Conference that would pay him top dollar, put him on their top line, give him star billing with attendant endorsement revenues, and keep him a short plane ride from Europe, where his real family lives.

It will be a hard decision, but he is firmly in the driver's seat, as he should be at this point in his career.
So what East coast teams do you think will pay him top dollar and put him on their top line?
 
You think Ehlers is just blowing smoke when he says how special it is to get to 500 points in Winnipeg with a team that he views as family?
Not at all. I just think he's ready for a new chapter. You can be proud of what you've accomplished in one place and love the people you've done it with, while still wanting a new challenge and new opportunity.
If this was the case he would have been traded in the off season just like Trouba and PLD were when Chevy knew they would play out the season on the way to UFA status.
Unless he couldn't find a deal. It takes two to tango.

So what East coast teams do you think will pay him top dollar and put him on their top line?
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So what East coast teams do you think will pay him top dollar and put him on their top line?
I said eastern conference, not east coast, so that constitutes 16 teams. Of those, there are only a few with LWs who produce more (points/game) than Nik. Those that do, are given considerably more ice time. In fact, somewhat surprisingly, Ehlers still ranks only 44th in TOI/G for left wingers.
I don't have a crystal ball, but am sure he will have plenty enough (and all you need is >1 for a bidding war) EC offers to choose from if he pursues free agency.
 
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Chevy could be in a tough spot when it comes to Ehlers. Let’s say Nik is offer sheeted $ 10 mil, or its deemed by other players, he’s worth that.

It be very hard for Chevy to pay him $ 9.5 mil or higher, when Helle and Scheifele are only making $ 8.5 mil. It could turn out to be a very difficult deal to make, and not upset other star players.
 
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Ehlers is an 80 to 90 point player all day long, if he’s given a spot on power play # 1 , and proper ice time, and used properly like Arneil is now. He is averaging over a point per game this year, which shows his real value

Ehlers is worth $ 8.5 to 9 mil per year as a UFA, and the Jets should resign Nik.
Point per game always seemed like a faulty stat as it doesn’t take into account the ability to stay healthy is huge.
Either way love what I see from him look forward to the real test which is playoffs.
 
Chevy could be in a tough spot when it comes to Ehlers. Let’s say Nik is offer sheeted $ 10 mil, or its deemed by other players, he’s worth that.

It be very hard for Chevy to pay him $ 9.5 mil or higher, when Helle and Scheifele are only making $ 8.5 mil. It could turn out to be a very difficult deal to make, and not upset other star players.
Ehlers is not going to get offer sheeted because he is not an RFA and it's unlikely Chevy waits until free agency period before offering Ehlers a new contract if he hasn't already (they may just be waiting to see what the new salary cap will be before finalizing)

If I had to guess, I think he is offered something like an 8x8m or possibly even matching Scheifs and Helly, then KFC will come in later at around 9-10m or maybe with luck also signs for the same because he loves us so much.
 
One of the Joys of being a Jets fan is finding peace in knowing I have zero idea what Chevy is going to do most of the time. The Schiefele Hellybuyck suprise deals were the finish line for me as a phatom GM and where I felt fully emancipated from my imaginary role.
Hey...

You can still chill on the dock at the lake with a cocktail on July 1st like Chevy does while all the other GMs are chasing aging UFAs around with Brinks trucks lol
 
I said eastern conference, not east coast, so that constitutes 16 teams. Of those, there are only a few with LWs who produce more (points/game) than Nik. Those that do, are given considerably more ice time. In fact, somewhat surprisingly, Ehlers still ranks only 44th in TOI/G for left wingers.
I don't have a crystal ball, but am sure he will have plenty enough (and all you need is >1 for a bidding war) EC offers to choose from if he pursues free agency.
I thought maybe you had some ideas on possible trade partners. I still think the most likely scenario is the Jets sign Nik, 2nd most likely is a trade. Either way Chevy will have a plan.
 
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Hmm east teams where ehlers would automatically slot into line 1 and pp1

Boston, carolina, buffalo, nyi, wings, columbus, philly, canadiens, pittsburgh, caps, tampa, sens...

Next question.
So which one s do you think will give value back for him? And which ones do you think he would be willing to sign long term with?
 
Ehlers doesn't seem like a wise self rental, due to his history of disappearing in the playoffs. I think it is much more likely that something happens before the TDL. A signing or a trade.
Jets will definitely push hard to get him re-signed before the deadline. May even have to use the threat of a deal to help expedite a decision... still optimistic we can get him signed around then like Buff was back in the day.

The Jets have always shown loyalty to a fault to their players. I can't see Chevy not giving him something he is willing to sign. Ehlers has always been a team first guy I can't see him leaving if he has a good offer and some assurances in his favour.
 
Agreed. We have no idea what discussions Chevy has had with Ehlers camp. IMO it seems very unlikely there haven’t been some discussions. I still expect Ehlers will sign long term with the Jets and we will hear nothing about it until it is a done deal.
Chevy did say fairly clearly that he's not had any contract discussions.

Apparently Friedman or someone said the Jets were going to review their situation during the 4 Nations break, when they have more clarity about the future cap levels.
 
Jets will definitely push hard to get him re-signed before the deadline. May even have to use the threat of a deal to help expedite a decision... still optimistic we can get him signed around then like Buff was back in the day.

The Jets have always shown loyalty to a fault to their players. I can't see Chevy not giving him something he is willing to sign. Ehlers has always been a team first guy I can't see him leaving if he has a good offer and some assurances in his favour.
I think the Jets are willing to pay him, but, if he is like his fans who think he is capable of 90-100 points if he got top line minutes then why would he stay? So how does he feel about his situation? Is he okay not being on the top line and being the man? Does he care about the stats? Does he feel disrespected, as the players who showed loyalty to the Jets, possibly never felt as underutilized as he does. The Jets want to be loyal, but, they have their pecking order and have shown that they view other players ahead of him. They have shown they will give Stanley and KFC the cream of usage whether they deserve it or not and not him.
 
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if ehlers is traded, id think itd be for a similar fwd of similar contract status aka pending ufa so the same spot we're in now essentially. if that's the case, i think the Jets keep the guy they have and have had familiarity with. i can see a contract signed/announcement after the PO before UFA, however personally don't think they do anything in-season.
 
The Avs situation is weird considering Rantanen just came out saying he was surprised he was traded as he was willing to take a discount to stay, now of course we don't know what that discounted number is but still very strange.

Even still we are in a better situation to sign all our guys, already have two of our stars locked down at 8.5m, we should be easily able to afford both Ehlers and then KFC without much issue.
Friedman indicated that the Avs had offered Rantanen around $12M and it was too low. So he might have been okay with a discount, but it still seemed too rich for the Avs who don't want to tie up so much in 3 players.

This might have implications for the Jets. Teams that miss out on Rantanen or Marner might go hard after Ehlers, who is likely going to be a much more economical option. That could include the Avs, Leafs, Canes, Habs, etc.
 
So what East coast teams do you think will pay him top dollar and put him on their top line?
Is it a stretch to say the smart ones?

The guys resume paints a picture pretty clearly.

He is a guy who will score a point a game or more when he is healthy And plays top line and PP1. Maybe more if he was with the right center?

Has injury history and has disappeared in the playoffs more than any star should. So adds risk for sure.

The fact he would be Tampa's #1 LW was my first cause for alarm... could tune out all the BS, take a discount (comparatively) to make the same take home, and play on a team with a cup winning pedigree. That was the first pretty appealing marriage I saw.

Carolina if they miss out on signing Rantanen may be another nice fit where the weather is milder and the team is good and values him for what he is.

He definitely has some options, just hoping he wants to be a part of winning a cup here.
 
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This is sobering to read lol

Trusting Chevy can get this done
Chevy's leverage is now. He can offer Ehlers an 8th year of term, if he wants. Also, with so many Eastern teams likely interested, I wonder if he could work on a sign and trade to give a team a leg up. Of course, Ehlers would need to want to play in that market. The 8th year would be part of the enticement, if the other team wants to snag Ehlers.

Jets don't need to get a roster player, because they could flip future assets to get the type of player they want to fill the line-up.

I wonder if Dubas and the Pens might have an interest in one more push. Ehlers via trade and then Marner as a UFA in the summer? That's just an example if Chevy doesn't have plans or optimism to re-sign Ehlers.
 

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