Confirmed with Link: Edmundson to Toronto

[TMLBlueandWhite]

This is about as underwhelming as it gets.

My first thought after hearing Treliving traded for Edmundson wasn't "awesome, the Leafs are gonna win the cup". It was "moron, he did it again". I knew Treliving was gonna do something stupid.

I just didn't know how stupid until he did it.

A brain dead pigeon could do a better job. At least the pigeon wouldn't keep wasting picks on bottom of the roster scrubs. Cause Edmondson and Lyubushkin are sooooo much better than Erik Karlsson.

At this point I can only hope Treliving somehow manages to do the right thing despite himself.

His incompetence has been proven already. Other than being a shameless sycophant I can't think of any reason Shanahan should want to keep him around. Sadly I think the possibility of Edmundson being re-signed is greater than that of Treliving being fired.

It really doesn't get anymore disappointing than this.

 

[ponder]

Why though? He’s a past prime LHD who wasn’t even that good in his prime. Is he better than Benoit or Gio? If so, not by much. Don’t get the point of this move.

A 3rd and a 5th isn’t much, but sometimes these later picks hit. Recent-ish 3rd+ picks that have hit for the Leafs include Woll, Verhaeghe, Connor Brown, Holmberg, Engvall and Johnsson - Niemela and Hildeby TBD. This just seems wasteful, feels like we’re throwing away picks for a guy who doesn’t move the needle at all.

 

[Nineteen67]

Length and a little meat on the backend is good. They can’t afford to spend the future on guys without term and there are no D with term available.

 

[Mess]

6 foot 5
221 lbs

Big, mean and nasty

What is not to like?

 

[DarkKnight]

Bourne had a good stat on Brodie, past two years top 30 in puck retrievals, this year bottom 20 in the league. So what else does he do if not that?

 

[myleafs]

Unless there's something else coming that involves Timmy, I don't think I understand this trade.

Not fussed either way about Edmundson, I just don't get the play here.

It feels like a precursor to a bigger move...either that or Im just projecting/hoping

Whats the point of this trade really?

Doesn't address Top4 D-man problem; and realistically we can't fix that until Tavares is off the cap (and then we will have a 2/3 C hole) or Liljegren develops to take that

I mean Leafs aren't going to compete in post season. I am as big a Leafs homer as the next guy but we gotta see more out of Matthews, Marner and Nylander in the post season before we keep throwing away assets at the TDL. I haven't seen three amigos take their game to the next level in playoffs. On the contrary they get shut down quite often.

Its like doing shit for the sake of doing shit

I don't think its over yet.....it will all make sense soon...Im pretty sure...maybe

 

[DarkKnight]

Wayne Train was on TSN and he said he felt the Leafs weakness in the past playoffs was their inability to clear the front of the net.

 

[Sypher04]

Wayne Train was on TSN and he said he felt the Leafs weakness in the playoffs was their inability to clear the front of the net.

That is a sentiment I’ve shared. It’s definitely been a problem. We need to make other teams pay a price to park in front of goal

 

[DarkKnight]

This is about as underwhelming as it gets.

My first thought after hearing Treliving traded for Edmundson wasn't "awesome, the Leafs are gonna win the cup". It was "moron, he did it again". I knew Treliving was gonna do something stupid.

I just didn't know how stupid until he did it.

A brain dead pigeon could do a better job. At least the pigeon wouldn't keep wasting picks on bottom of the roster scrubs. Cause Edmondson and Lyubushkin are sooooo much better than Erik Karlsson.

At this point I can only hope Treliving somehow manages to do the right thing despite himself.

His incompetence has been proven already. Other than being a shameless sycophant I can't think of any reason Shanahan should want to keep him around. Sadly I think the possibility of Edmundson being re-signed is greater than that of Treliving being fired.

It really doesn't get anymore disappointing than this.

Omg relax dude.

That is a sentiment I’ve shared. It’s definitely been a problem

Was interesting to hear a player say that, and sure he isn’t wrong.

 

[PromisedLand]

Wayne Train was on TSN and he said he felt the Leafs weakness in the playoffs was their inability to clear the front of the net.

How about putting the puck in opposition net

We didn't score enough against the Panthers IMO given that we pay PREIUM dollars for forwards to score

 

[crump]

More depth for a bottom pair. He’s only 30, so

Parros is going to pre-suspend Edmundson. He's not getting away with half of what he did as a Hab.

Parros saw the tweet and started sucking his lips like Hannibal Lecter.

 

[PromisedLand]

So would Edmundson get away with this as a Leaf?

 

[myleafs]

No but he will cross-check people and potentially break ribs. Also he's big and can clear the crease. He's a mean, dirty and big bodied defence-man who will protect the front of the net and try and injure the other teams star players if they get near the goalie. If we run into Florida in the playoffs again, I am expecting him to absolutely lay Bennett the f*** out. He's being brought in to play a mean physical game.

I think I got a chubby

 

[Hellcat]

Makes me so happy for Pasta and Marchand... guys we got you an early xmas gift...

 

[stealth1]

He is the biggest dman on the team right now. Crease clearing specialties. PK. Physical. I don't know if his game has 'fallen off' but he was excellent for Montreal in playoffs vs us I remember him well.

How many years ago was that? From what people are saying is he's not that good anymore. My take is most of you don't watch other teams play ever.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Rielly - Boosh
Benoit - McCabe
Edmundson - Liljegren

Brodie W/retention for 2nd
Or
Brodie W/Retention + Robertson to Dal for 1st

Not great, but at least a pain to play against

 

[Hellcat]

So would Edmundson get away with this as a Leaf?

That was a $5000 fine, we both know that when he does that in the playoffs wearing a Leafs uni it will still be a $5000 fine right?

 

[Sypher04]

Why though? He’s a past prime LHD who wasn’t even that good in his prime. Is he better than Benoit or Gio? If so, not by much. Don’t get the point of this move.

A 3rd and a 5th isn’t much, but sometimes these later picks hit. Recent-ish 3rd+ picks that have hit for the Leafs include Woll, Verhaeghe, Connor Brown, Holmberg, Engvall and Johnsson - Niemela and Hildeby TBD. This just seems wasteful, feels like we’re throwing away picks for a guy who doesn’t move the needle at all.

While you’re not wrong, the reality is 3rd+ rounders are long term projects if they make it at all, which the overwhelming majority don’t. Only something like 1/10 3rd picks become NHLers, and the results get worse from there later rounds go.

While these players listed eventually got to the NHL, on average it took 5+ years for them to get there and it’s debatable how effective they even were in some cases when they made it initially. It might be 7-8 years before you have a truly effective player.

Even if we hit on one of these players in just a few months, in June, they won’t be of any help to our current core players while they try to win in their prime.

Engvall: drafted 2014 -> NHL 2019/20
Brown: drafted 2012 -> NHL 2015/16
Holmberg: drafted 2018 -> NHL 2022/23
Johnsson: drafted 2013 -> NHL 2017/18
Woll: drafted 2016 -> NHL 2022/23
Verhaeghe: drafted 2013 -> NHL 2019/20

Eventually all the traded picks will catch up with us, and hard, as they do with all teams that sustain a long period of trying to win, and we’re going to be very bad, but that’s the price you pay. Let’s just hope we have the success we’re looking for before we get there.

People should be prepared to watch the draft capital continue to be dealt for the next 4 years minimum. Not saying keep nothing, but the dealing of picks isn’t going to stop. Best we can hope for is they are used wisely.

 

[DarkKnight]

How about putting the puck in opposition net

We didn't score enough against the Panthers IMO given that we pay PREIUM dollars for forwards to score

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Yes that too lol.

 

[PromisedLand]

Apparently he paired with Rielly in Moose Jaw?

Not sure how well it would translate to NHL. Connor Brown has laid a big ass egg next to McJesus this season

 

[thusk]

Why though? He’s a past prime LHD who wasn’t even that good in his prime. Is he better than Benoit or Gio? If so, not by much. Don’t get the point of this move.

A 3rd and a 5th isn’t much, but sometimes these later picks hit. Recent-ish 3rd+ picks that have hit for the Leafs include Woll, Verhaeghe, Connor Brown, Holmberg, Engvall and Johnsson - Niemela and Hildeby TBD. This just seems wasteful, feels like we’re throwing away picks for a guy who doesn’t move the needle at all.

he made a good job on both time he reached stanley cup final.

Edmundson is like hainsey. put him with average or trash d and they will look average to trash too... put those guy with a quality partner and he will give good some pretty good hockey.

if he stay healthy, can he be leafs new Ron Hainsey? the answer is yes

hes physical, hes strong, hes able to clear everyone to the front of the net even if hes a 6'6 guy and help samsonov and woll to see the puck, making life hard to people who want to crush the net. thats where playoff game are win or lost ... when it was an huge issues in the past on playoff.. so yes Edmundson upgrading leafs in a part of the game leafs needed

 

[rumman]

Bourne had a good stat on Brodie, past two years top 30 in puck retrievals, this year bottom 20 in the league. So what else does he do if not that?

Doesn’t help that he’s become allergic to physical contact, no D man can thrive with that affliction………

 

[TMLAM34]

Rielly - Boosh
Benoit - McCabe
Edmundson - Liljegren

Brodie W/retention for 2nd
Or
Brodie W/Retention + Robertson to Dal for 1st

Not great, but at least a pain to play against

That’s how I’d like to see the pairings. Use Brodie in a deal to get a depth forward.

 

[CincoHolio]

That was a $5000 fine, we both know that when he does that in the playoffs wearing a Leafs uni it will still be a $5000 fine right?

Leafs still paying for the sherriff ending Parros' career a decade later.

 

[barilko05]

Doesn’t help that he’s become allergic to physical contact, no D man can thrive with that affliction………

100 hundred per cent agree with this assessment! Brodie hears footsteps ALOT when he has the puck. Blind passes to the net front...firing it backwards without a look. RInging it up the boards without looking...all because someone's about to get up in his grill. It's hard to watch for a guy who used to be such a solid defender. The best at breaking up 2 on 1's. Now? Time to go, man...