NMC is only for 5 years per LeBrun.
Wouldn't a huge signing bonus mean that the later years of his deal are at a dollar amount less than his cap hit?
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NMC is only for 5 years per LeBrun.
Wouldn't a huge signing bonus mean that the later years of his deal are at a dollar amount less than his cap hit?
Partial NTC (trade list) for the last 2 years which is a bit better. IMO if things aren't working out in Edmonton for Lucic it won't be hard to move him, people aren't usually trying hard to stay in Edmonton when things turn against him.
That's just what I think though, we'll see in the next few years. I'm happy though, I just want my team to improve and Lucic does that
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In a technical sense though then that isn't a NMC for the final two years.
A NMC is a no movement clause, period, that's just a modified NTC.
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Right. That's what I said w the NMC w a list of ? [unknown quantity,unknown conditions] teams that he can be traded to in the last two years.
ETA: It's not a modified NTC. If LeBrun is right, it's a modified NMC bc the only difference between an NMC and an NTC is that you can't be waived w an NMC. Presumably, that part is still in effect the last two years.
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Who did either guy get to play with those years, and what kind of system did they have to adhere to?
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Oiler fans appreciate all of your kind hearted concerns. Most of you guys should be jumping up and down. Lucic is finished in 2 years right. Don't worry about us though. Let our GM handle this albatross of a contract. By far the worst one today.
Thank you once again for your concerns
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Thank you once again for your concerns
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Cost and length are what I expected. Lucic is what Edmonton needs. Right now, Edmonton is a better team now than before Larsson+Lucic. That being said:
1. We'll see if the length is a problem in a few years. I think it will be because I just can't see Lucic being as effective as the cap hit suggests in 4-5 years.
2. In reference to posters claiming he will be a deterrent for players taking shots at McDavid etc, there's the other side of the sword to that. Lucic can be easily goaded into taking stupid penalties and this isn't the 80's anymore. He will help bring the youth movement along if he stays smart and doesn't chase after bad penalties for things like retaliation. Teams are going to test him pretty often, hopefully he keeps his head on straight.
All in all, congrats to Edmonton. This is a signing they needed imo...term is a bit long but you can't have everything. Looking forward to some fun battle of Alberta games.
1. We'll see if the length is a problem in a few years. I think it will be because I just can't see Lucic being as effective as the cap hit suggests in 4-5 years.
2. In reference to posters claiming he will be a deterrent for players taking shots at McDavid etc, there's the other side of the sword to that. Lucic can be easily goaded into taking stupid penalties and this isn't the 80's anymore. He will help bring the youth movement along if he stays smart and doesn't chase after bad penalties for things like retaliation. Teams are going to test him pretty often, hopefully he keeps his head on straight.
All in all, congrats to Edmonton. This is a signing they needed imo...term is a bit long but you can't have everything. Looking forward to some fun battle of Alberta games.
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Worst case scenario - Lucic sucks (~30 points) in 2 seasons.
Likely scenario - his production falls in 4-5 years. Probably still worth it for the good years of production they got out of him.
Likely scenario - his production falls in 4-5 years. Probably still worth it for the good years of production they got out of him.
He will be easy to move after 5 years, so many options with cap retention now. If he plays well for the next 3-4 years this is a huge win, upgraded the defence, got much bigger and tougher to play against, and still have a first line calibre left winger replacing Hall while giving the team a much different look.
I'm happy for Lucic, he's a good man and I'm glad he's been financially rewarded.
I'm happy for Lucic, he's a good man and I'm glad he's been financially rewarded.
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Actually, his agent said 4 other teams were prepared to go that term...Try again..
The Habs offered more. Lets wait and see what the actual salary structure here is too, LeBrun is saying almost half his salary is in the form of signing bonuses, that could mean the last 2-3 years of his deal are well under $6 million in actual $$$, making it like a 5 year contract basically.
Other teams just paid basically the same money to older players like Eriksson and Backes and the same for Okposo who is the same age as Lucic.
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Front loaded means they can just keep him for five years, and when they start running into money troubles with their rookies, they trade him to Arizona, or another team that appreciates low cost, high cap hit players for salary cap reasons.
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He's only 28, that's only three years older than Hall, lol.
They need some mentorship anyway ... you can't have a locker room of McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Klefbom, Yakupov, Nurse, even Nugent Hopkins and not have someone there who has some real experience and can actually play on the ice.
The only players on the Oilers roster over the age of 30 I believe is Matt Hendricks and Andrej Sekera. Pouliot turns 30 just before camp.
This is still a very, very young team, adding a guy who was a key part of a team that made it to 2 Stanley Cup finals is a big deal.
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