Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Milan Lucic (7 years, $6.000M AAV)

[Soundwave]

Can't blame NJ. Everyone knew Chia desperately needed a defenseman. He was going to overpay.

It might be a bit of a blessing in disguise for the Oilers ... I love Hall, but Nugent Hopkins is the more well rounded player and plays a more important position.

There was that chart of the Oilers goals for/against with Nugent Hopkins and without him, and the Oilers were basically even with RNH on the ice .... and the number collapsed without him on the ice into the negative.

 

[rynryn]

term is too long, and he's nowhere near Hall level in skill (don't fool yourselves, please, it'll only lead to tears) but it's another positive step in creating balance. Could have done far worse in finding a replacement. If the Oilers don't make the playoffs this year I think it'll be a legitimate disappointment.

 

[Soundwave]

Almost half of Lucic's contract is a signing bonus according to LeBrun.

 

[Joe Sakic]

People know this only takes him to his mid-30s right?

Can't tell if people are jelous or misinformed

 

[JT Kreider]

People know this only takes him to his mid-30s right?

Can't tell if people are jelous or misinformed

Breh, do you even HF?

Whoever signed Lucic outside of the HF darlings was going to get this kind of reaction.

 

[cbzblaze]

Considering what Ladd and Erickson got, this is a pretty good deal. 2 years too long but that was gonna be a given to get your guy in FA. Lucic, maroon, Kassian, draisaitl, pulju. Oilers are officially no longer a peewee hockey team anymore. Great summer so far!

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It might be a bit of a blessing in disguise for the Oilers ... I love Hall, but Nugent Hopkins is the more well rounded player and plays a more important position.

There was that chart of the Oilers goals for/against with Nugent Hopkins and without him, and the Oilers were basically even with RNH on the ice .... and the number collapsed without him on the ice into the negative.

I'm pretty high on Hall. I think he'll excel in a sound system like NJ. He was put in a tough situation in Edmonton without any leadership surrounding him. I expect a huge year from him and think he will become a much better two way player. This trade is going to hurt Edmonton long term IMO.

 

[OilTastic]

Well to be fair, this is the move you hope puts the Oilers over the top as a playoff team.

The Leafs are still fairly early in their rebuild (only their 1st overall pick compared to your 4 since 2010).

well not to slag the Leafs but they should at least consider going for the 1st overall again in 2017 because i have seen Nolan Patrick live and man this kid is good at only 17! plus he's listed as a right shooting center and is already 6'3 and 195. how big will he be come draft day next year when he's on the verge of being 19 in Sept. 2017?

 

[Topkatz]

I'm pretty high on Hall. I think he'll excel in a sound system like NJ. He was put in a tough situation in Edmonton without any leadership surrounding him. I expect a huge year from him and think he will become a much better two way player. This trade is going to hurt Edmonton long term IMO.

Youve said this many times already.

Hall is a great player but not without his weaknesses. I too think he will have a great year but the Oilers have to change things and Hall was part of the problem with the Oilers. Oilers needed to change how they play by changing some of the significant pieces. The Oilers look to me to be so much more balanced now and more able to achieve success that eluded them during Halls time.

 

[Wheatking]

I'm pretty high on Hall. I think he'll excel in a sound system like NJ. He was put in a tough situation in Edmonton without any leadership surrounding him. I expect a huge year from him and think he will become a much better two way player. This trade is going to hurt Edmonton long term IMO.

Hall was my favorite Oiler so I'm biased, but even I can look at the additions of Lucic and Puljujarvi, and see that the loss of Hall is much less significant than it would have been if we traded him in previous years.

Adding a Dman like Larsson, even if he isn't a #1, is also massive. There was such a drop off between Klefbom and the rest of our Dmen. Larsson makes everyone shift down a spot on the depth chart.

Basically Larsson is more important to our defense than Hall would be to our forwards now that Lucic, Puljujarvi, and most importantly, McDavid have been added to the forward group. I'm going to miss Hall and I won't put him down to make this trade look better, but the Oilers are a better team today than they were 2 weeks ago.

 

[leaflover]

It's not that bad of a deal. He's worth 6 million at this point and speculating at what point he no longer plays at a 6m level is pretty much pointless.
Edmonton needed a big physical top 6 forward and got a really good one. So until such time as his play declines, well done.

 

[McDavyCrockett]

I'm pretty high on Hall. I think he'll excel in a sound system like NJ. He was put in a tough situation in Edmonton without any leadership surrounding him. I expect a huge year from him and think he will become a much better two way player. This trade is going to hurt Edmonton long term IMO.

Taylor Hall put up 80 points over 75 games and we still finished as a lottery team (3rd last).

The moves that we've made and continue to make before training camp will have us in a spot as a much better team than anything we were in the Hall era.

No one can dispute that.

 

[Homesick]

Why can't Lucic keep going like a Scott Hartnell? I've seen no evidence to support the claims that he will be done in 3-4 years.

 

[Helistin]

I like this signing. He can always play the organ if his play on the ice deteriorates.

 

[Soundwave]

I'm pretty high on Hall. I think he'll excel in a sound system like NJ. He was put in a tough situation in Edmonton without any leadership surrounding him. I expect a huge year from him and think he will become a much better two way player. This trade is going to hurt Edmonton long term IMO.

He's a very good player but the problem I had with his upside is he doesn't really posses a very good shot.

Great speed, but not the best finisher in the world, that's why he's never hit 30 goals in his career.

That's kinda where Tyler Seguin has pulled away, he has an elite shot.

 

[Wheatking]

Youve said this many times already.

Hall is a great player but not without his weaknesses. I too think he will have a great year but the Oilers have to change things and Hall was part of the problem with the Oilers. Oilers needed to change how they play by changing some of the significant pieces. The Oilers look to me to be so much more balanced now and more able to achieve success that eluded them during Halls time.

I strongly disagree with that. Unfortunately he was one of the few things right with the Oilers and that's why he was the one that had the value to bring in a much needed defenseman.

 

[Wheatking]

He's a very good player but the problem I had with his upside is he doesn't really posses a very good shot.

Great speed, but not the best finisher in the world, that's why he's never hit 30 goals in his career.

That's kinda where Tyler Seguin has pulled away, he has an elite shot.

The difference between Hall and Seguin for me is that Seguin is the "2" in the Stars 1-2 punch. Hall is the "Benn" in any duo he's apart of.

 

[Topkatz]

He's a very good player but the problem I had with his upside is he doesn't really posses a very good shot.

Great speed, but not the best finisher in the world, that's why he's never hit 30 goals in his career.

He creates chances due to his speed alone. But yeah he doesnt have elite hands and can give the puck up for silly reasons that can suck the life out of a play, which feeds the Oilers biggest demon, confidence.

If Hall had elite hands he would be the best offensive LW in the game.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

People know this only takes him to his mid-30s right?

Can't tell if people are jelous or misinformed

Out of curiosity,what's the standard decline age for people playing his style of game? Mid 30's?

 

[Willy Stylez]

Deal is ok, much needed addition.

 

[OilTastic]

Why is that trolling? Isn't there a bigger risk than usual when signing power forwards to long term deals that they will break down before the contract runs out.

the same could be said for any one of the big UFA's signed today....Nielsen is already 32. could his wheels fall off sooner than later? and Backes plays a physical game too. he's 32 and his wheels could fall off soon too. didn't stop other teams from signing them to long and expensive contracts. if you want to win you sometimes have to makes these types of gambles it's as simple as that.

 

[Topkatz]

I strongly disagree with that. Unfortunately he was one of the few things right with the Oilers and that's why he was the one that had the value to bring in a much needed defenseman.

Oh yeah, Hall was fine but the team was not. As i said put Hall anywhere in your team and he would put up points. Im talking about team chemistry and I dont think Hall was able to form a stable duo/trio that always clicked.

Dont get me wrong though would have still prefered RNH or Eberle to go at the time, but adding Lucic offsets a lot of what was lost with Hall.

 

[hockey8686]

Man Chia is a dumba** 7 years has he gone mental 4 or 5 would of been fine starting to hate this guys so much

 

[oStealthKiller*]

It's not that bad of a deal. He's worth 6 million at this point and speculating at what point he no longer plays at a 6m level is pretty much pointless.
Edmonton needed a big physical top 6 forward and got a really good one. So until such time as his play declines, well done.

It's set up well too, it's like we signed him for 5 years cuz we front loaded it and no nmc the last 2 years. If he becomes bad the last 2 years we can use the coyote clause lol

 

[Willy Stylez]

Man Chia is a dumba** 7 years has he gone mental 4 or 5 would of been fine starting to hate this guys so much

Look at the other contracts signed today, Edmonton don't get Lucic on a 4 or 5y deal. Its an ok deal, much needed addition.