Busted up David Backes just got 5 years. I don't think you know how the UFA market works kid
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Wheatking
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His agent is on the radio right now saying multiple teams were willing to give him 7 years. If he didn't get it from Edmonton, he would have got it from someone else.
The guy is only 28. People are being over dramatic.
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Geez, so much hate on this.
Looch brings so much balance to the Oilers. People need to understand he doesn't sign a contract there without the seven years.
As I see it, Oilers go from an All flash team to a more lumbering, cerebral team. Like this move. As a Hawks fan am I worried about the Oilers? No. But something tells me the Hawks beat the Oilers in the playoffs next year and it's the last time the Hawks beat the Oilers in the playoffs for a long time.
Looch brings so much balance to the Oilers. People need to understand he doesn't sign a contract there without the seven years.
As I see it, Oilers go from an All flash team to a more lumbering, cerebral team. Like this move. As a Hawks fan am I worried about the Oilers? No. But something tells me the Hawks beat the Oilers in the playoffs next year and it's the last time the Hawks beat the Oilers in the playoffs for a long time.
powerstuck
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All these lenghty contracts mean one thing, players got words next CBA may not be friendly, they cashing in now and looking on long term to keep future safe.
BHD
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The hate in this thread is great... everyone know the Oilers have balanced their roster and did what all of the Oiler haters said they needed to do... "Stop over valuing your players", "trade your forward talent for character guys, size and positions of need", "you will have ot overpay because of your desperation" ... done. Some over pay was involved... Oiler fans, don't argue this point... every one of us thought we would get more for Hall, some would have thought alot more, me I would have thought a 2nd rounder or something along those lines BUT anying at at resembling 1st pairing RHD were not on the market... you were going to overpay. Lucic, AAV was OK but term was probably 2 years too long (or at least 2 years more than we would have hoped) BUT look at the $5.5 - 6m deals... Lucic (28 yrs old) $42/7, Okposo (28) $42/7, Eriksson (31) $36/6, Ladd (30) $33/6, Backes (32) $30/5.
Lucic through to 35
Okposo through to 35
Eriksson through to 37
Ladd through to 36
Backes through to 37
It is market value when 5 teams are doing it.. If one of these contracts is bad, they all are... which might be the case. FYI: Lucic is a full NMC for the first 5 years then 2 year limited NTC.
The Oilers are a BETTER TEAM today than they were on June 24th. Thank you to many non-Oiler posters who acknowledge that... the rest of you haters can go... well you know.
Lucic through to 35
Okposo through to 35
Eriksson through to 37
Ladd through to 36
Backes through to 37
It is market value when 5 teams are doing it.. If one of these contracts is bad, they all are... which might be the case. FYI: Lucic is a full NMC for the first 5 years then 2 year limited NTC.
The Oilers are a BETTER TEAM today than they were on June 24th. Thank you to many non-Oiler posters who acknowledge that... the rest of you haters can go... well you know.
If the actual salary is front loaded due to huge signing bonuses like LeBrun said and the NMC is over after 5 years, then I would say the Oilers made out well here.
They'll be able to move him after 5 years without much fuss, though if guys like Hartnell and Doan and Backes can be effective well into their 30s I don't see why Lucic couldn't either.
You can't teach size.
They'll be able to move him after 5 years without much fuss, though if guys like Hartnell and Doan and Backes can be effective well into their 30s I don't see why Lucic couldn't either.
You can't teach size.
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Love this deal. Always be bottom feeders who will have the ability to absorb 1-2 years of a 6 million dollar cap hit (with the majority of cash paid out). Expect the cap to continue rising if not incrementally. 1 year too long but all good, you knew it was coming.
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StoveTopStauffer
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Huh about the same as several others today? One could even say it is almost normal.
They were always going to be a better team.
The question is whether they would have been even better hanging onto their second best player and getting another 2-3 defenseman with other assets or as a FA.
I think long term they're worse because of these moves. Taylor Hall is a very good young star who was misused in Edmonton. Let's check back in a couple of years.
OilTastic
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the Canucks and Canadians were interested in him too....
Hmm. Bergevin and Benning were fighting Chia for him?
That hardly inspires confidence in the deal when the three worst GM's in the entire NHL are in on the player.
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he wasn't misused, the previous old boys club management had no clue on how to build a successful team around these kids and subsequently the Oilers couldn't win with them despite these guys being productive.
OilTastic
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Hmm. Bergevin and Benning were fighting Chia for him?
That hardly inspires confidence in the deal when the three worst GM's in the entire NHL are in on the player.
can't disagree there!
mind you Dallas was also interested. He was misused in the sense that he wasn't surrounded with vets and put into a structured system. I think he will thrive in NJ.
Choralone
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Any player at Lucic's age is going to go for the maximum money and term he can get. Edmonton, just like anyone else in the entire world, knows he is going to be a less effective player at the end of that contract. It all comes down to whether or not a team thinks he is worth it for what he brings now and what they project him to bring over the next few years. Edmonton thought he's worth it in the short term, and here we are. It's an interesting signing and I'm not wild about my team going up against him a jillion times per season the next few years.
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Long term contract will probably suck on the back half but for the first few years I think he will help the Oilers quite a bit.
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If what LeBrun tweeted is true, the biggest problem with Lucic's contract is that almost half the money is in the form of a signing bonus plus he has a NMC for all 7 years w it being modified to a list of ?? teams in the last two years (but still can't waive him). The large signing bonus is not the case with the other contracts, tho I personally think the term is too long on all of them. Too long term (or too high $) is almost standard for July 1st FAs, tho.
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