Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Milan Lucic (7 years, $6.000M AAV)

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JT Kreider

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Maroon is incredibly slow and he managed to put up 8 goals in 16 games with McDavid. McDavid and Eberle can setup and wait for Lucic to get there.

16 games with no pressure in meaningless games.

Way too small a sample size.
 

NewBoysClub97*

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Contact will look bad in a few years, but it makes the oilers better today. They're likely in a playoff spot after the most recent moves.

Other than term and risk of Lucic breaking down, another risk here is if Lucic and McDavid don't mesh well and are split up. I can bet you that he'll sulk up a storm if he's moved off McDavids line.

How would you even guess that? You think Lucic will "Vrbata it up"?
 

Crabapple

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The NMC hurts but I'm willing to go drastic to get out of the basement. I don't love the contract but I hate losing even more.
 

ZeHockeyFan

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Good for Lucic and the Oilers. Gives them some hard-nosed presence up front against their division rivals. I'm just glad the face-to-face meeting with Gaglardi didn't yield anything. Didn't see a fit for him on the Stars.
 

PatrikOverAuston

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Or that Okposo's stats have been fine (and better than Lucic's) which people just keep ignoring.

Okposo: 0.69 PPG for career
Lucic: 0.61 PPG for career

I mean, I guess technically you're right, but that's an odd hill to die on. They're nearly identical offensively over the course of their careers and Lucic has been far healthier doing it. Even speaking to the last three years Okposo has just 26 more points in that span.
 

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Good signing that should bring some balance to the Oilers.

In years past, if they weren't scoring off the rush, they weren't scoring. They now have the ability to score off the rush with McDavid but can also wear you down and create chances off the cycle.

Lucic/Maroon/Pouliot/Draisaitl/Puljujarvi gives the team some really nice size in the top 9 to compliment the skill of McDavid/RNH/Eberle.
 

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So you know what the cap will be in 5 years?

Its freakin hilarious fans saying the deal sucks because it will be bad 5 years from now.


Props to the Oilers management for having the stones for trying to change culture.

I know, this is the first time a long contract has been signed and was judged for how it will look years from now. Props to oilers management for predicting how much the cap will go up and how effective Lucic will be then.
 

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Edmonton will be better with Puluavari (sp) Lucic and Larsson over Taylor Hall.

The Oilers have skilled players and they need guys to be leaders, step up, keep other guys accountable, and develop up a better bottom 6 + depth.

Term is long; but for the next 4-5 years this is a good deal. The last 2 years will not be kind, but that's the price you have to pay sometimes. If you win a cup you won't be worrying about his contract in year 5, 6 and 7.
 

MettleMcOiler

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Lol reading through this thread...

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Mr Positive

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They're all terrible deals.

It's Lucic's playing style that has people questioning this one too. He brings in more wear and tear on his body than most players AND he's slow already. These things don't bode well for long term deals

If he's got wear and tear, why isn't that translating to injuries? Also, he didn't look slow at all in LA this year.

But like most forwards, he'll probably not be worth 6 AAV by age 35. That is concerning but we'll deal with it when it's a problem
 

aufheben

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Okposo: 0.69 PPG for career
Lucic: 0.61 PPG for career

I mean, I guess technically you're right, but that's an odd hill to die on. They're nearly identical offensively over the course of their careers and Lucic has been far healthier doing it. Even speaking to the last three years Okposo has just 26 more points in that span.

71gp 69pts
60gp 51pts
79gp 64pts

80gp 59pts
81gp 44pts
81gp 55pts

Last 3 years.
 

missingchicklet

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They're all terrible deals.

It's Lucic's playing style that has people questioning this one too. He brings in more wear and tear on his body than most players AND he's slow already. These things don't bode well for long term deals

He's not slow. He can turn on the jets when he needs to. He wasn't slow with LA, and he sure as heck wasn't slow at Boston the year before when he was on the line with Pastrnak and Spooner.
 

PatrikOverAuston

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71gp 69pts
60gp 51pts
79gp 64pts

80gp 59pts
81gp 44pts
81gp 55pts

Yes, as noted, it's 184 points for Okposo, 158 for Lucic. You're talking a difference of 0.1 points per game. For the extra 10, 7 and 9 points, I'd rather everything Lucic does better physically and in the room plus the added bonus of knowing he's actually going to play those games.
 

aufheben

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Yup, points. That's all Lucic brings to the table. :laugh:
Read the context of the conversion.

Yes, as noted, it's 184 points for Okposo, 158 for Lucic. You're talking a difference of 0.1 points per game. For the extra 10, 7 and 9 points, I'd rather everything Lucic does better physically and in the room plus the added bonus of knowing he's actually going to play those games.
lmao it's .88PPG v. .65PPG, i.e. a huge difference.
 

oljimmy

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Hall 65 pts last year, Lucic 55, with Hall playing 2 more minutes per game. Oilers-Kings team offense wasn't that far apart last year, kings only scored 0.23 more goals per game.

Hall shot% 9, Lucic 16, mainly because Lucic goes to the dirty areas and gets the quality opportunities.

Make no mistake, offensively speaking, this is almost a 1-for-1.
 
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