Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] G Jack Campbell signs with the Oilers (5 years, $5M AAV)

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Funk21

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Why in a thread about Campbell is everyone so concerned with Murray. If we buy him out next year it’s a 600K cap hit followed by two million the following When the cap should jump majorly.

If and it’s a big if he doesn’t regains his form he will be Kos all over again. I think he will be an average goalie but that’s about it. Definitely an overpayment and not somebody Holland should have went out of his way to break the bank and sign. He has Toronto envy.
 
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Leafs fan - he's certainly not remotely a 0.874 sv% goalie long term.

He will probably put up worse numbers in Edmonton than in Toronto, the Leafs used to be a bad defensive team, but over the past few years we've become quite strong - I think we're significantly stronger defensively than Edmonton. But he's still a solid goalie, a lower end starter, and his numbers will normalize over time. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get to at least 0.905 in Edmonton, probably more like 0.910.

Skinner may still grab the #1 role, he's playing great this year, and showed plenty of promise the last 2 years too in the NHL and AHL. Campbell will bounce back though.
 
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Leafs fan - he's certainly not remotely a 0.874 sv% goalie long term.

He will probably put up worse numbers in Edmonton than in Toronto, the Leafs used to be a bad defensive team, but over the past few years we've become quite strong - I think we're significantly stronger defensively than Edmonton. But he's still a solid goalie, a lower end starter, and his numbers will normalize over time. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get to at least 0.905 in Edmonton, probably more like 0.910.

Skinner may still grab the #1 role, he's playing great this year, and showed plenty of promise the last 2 years too in the NHL and AHL. Campbell will bounce back though.

Having watched and been a fan of Soup in Toronto, I too think he will bounce back.

He is so genuinely likeable that you gotta root for him to succeed.

It’s better he has his struggles now than later in the season.
 

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Not really Jack's fault that he's playing poorly nor overpaid. His agent got onto the negotiating table with the worst GM in the NHL. You're doing yourself and your family a disservice if you don't milk a mouth breathing moron like Ken Holland for every penny possible.
 

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The players you listed have a combined cap hit north of 30 mil, add another 14 if you want to count JVR and Kadri. Half of them are injury prone and signed through their mid-late 30s with NMC/NTCs.

Even if we had the big 4 at 10 million cheaper than they are now, I would want nothing to do with the majority of those contracts.
That's fine, but my point was basically the talk around the Leafs hasn't been whether the can re-sign their big guns.
 

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Oilers currently have a 3.46 GAA (horrendous 25th in the league), while the leafs give up 2.54 (8th best).. why are the leafs and Matt Murray being brought up again?

J5ck Campbell sucks and it’s almost like we all knew it for a whole calendar year almost now lmao.

And oilers fans loved dumping on the leafs for their slow start.. yet:

Leafs 7-4-2 for 16
Oilers 7-6-0 for 14 playing in a significantly weaker division. LMAO.
 

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Oilers currently have a 3.46 GAA (horrendous 25th in the league), while the leafs give up 2.54 (8th best).. why are the leafs and Matt Murray being brought up again?

J5ck Campbell sucks and it’s almost like we all knew it for a whole calendar year almost now lmao.

And oilers fans loved dumping on the leafs for their slow start.. yet:

Leafs 7-4-2 for 16
Oilers 7-6-0 for 14 playing in a significantly weaker division. LMAO.
Oilers have had a way, wayyyy harder schedule than the leafs.
 

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At this point I am starting to wonder if the Oilers even make the playoffs. It's a terrible division as we know, which has saved their asses the past few years. But they have A LOT of dead weight on that roster, and it seems Kane was only interested in trying to secure the bag.

Oilers are still the same as always, a 2 player show but their defense and depth are even worse than last year. They need at least 3 top 4 dmen to have an average dcore. Hiring Chia and Holland B2B is looking awful. McDavid's prime years wasted.

Not sure why the thread is discussing the Leafs. This is an Oilers thread..
 

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Oilers have had a way, wayyyy harder schedule than the leafs.
That doesn't work on the Leafs, a harder schedule results in them showing up and playing

We've given up 12 goals in 3 games to the likes of San Jose, Anaheim and Arizona

Against BOS/CAR/VGK we've given up 5 goals in 3 games
 

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Oilers currently have a 3.46 GAA (horrendous 25th in the league), while the leafs give up 2.54 (8th best).. why are the leafs and Matt Murray being brought up again?

J5ck Campbell sucks and it’s almost like we all knew it for a whole calendar year almost now lmao.

And oilers fans loved dumping on the leafs for their slow start.. yet:

Leafs 7-4-2 for 16
Oilers 7-6-0 for 14 playing in a significantly weaker division. LMAO.

How ironic that the Leafs have played 4 games against the Pacific while the Oilers have only played 3. 🤣

In 3 of the Leafs 4 games against the weak Pacific they played 3 teams that didn’t make the playoffs last year. 2 of the Oilers 3 games against the Pacific they played the team that finished 1st in the regular season in the Pacific.


How many points did the Leafs get against that weaker division 2 out of a possible 8. Oilers 4 out of a possible 6.

So I guess what you’re trying to say is the Oilers have had a much more difficult schedule to begin the season. You are correct then…. carry on, my bad.

You know it would be great if all of the above information was available to everyone, so as to not have egg all over one’s face when people spew such refutable garbage. FACT, NOT FICTION (AKA living in your own little world).

Oilers biggest issue right now is the PK… it’s horrendous… 67.9%, ranked 29th, allowing 18 goals 13 games, that’s a team issue.

Why isn’t everyone quoting Oilers 5v5 stats this year? Strange.
 
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LOL. No, THIS is incorrect. They never would pay the salary/terms that those guys got because none of them are that good. Hyman at 5.5M for that long? Mikheleyev at 4.75M??? Puh-lease.
While I agree with you on the leafs refusing to offer him starter money, everything else is pretty far from reality imo.
A lot of the shit spewed about the leafs here is done by people with an unhealthy hatred/obsession for them but there is still plenty of issues with the team overall. Won't detail the thread too much but I will say that the leafs roster has never been so top heavy and so reliant on the PP. If 1 or 2 of AM, MM, JT or WN, struggle, this team looks really average. Nor only would Dubas love to have Hyman, Mikheyev, Kadri, etc etc because they are far superior too what they have now, it would also mean Dubas did a better job in contracts, it also might have meant he didn't sign JT which is really the catalyst that brought them to this predicament, a team capped out, not a true cup contender and no assets to make a trade. Nevermind the fact that every year all that turnover makes it hard to build chemistry or know if those guys will fit in.
 

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How ironic that the Leafs have played 4 games against the Pacific while the Oilers have only played 3. 🤣

In 3 of the Leafs 4 games against the weak Pacific they played 3 teams that didn’t make the playoffs last year. 2 of the Oilers 3 games against the Pacific they played the team that finished 1st in the regular season in the Pacific.


How many points did the Leafs get against that weaker division 2 out of a possible 8. Oilers 4 out of a possible 6.

So I guess what you’re trying to say is the Oilers have had a much more difficult schedule to begin the season. You are correct then…. carry on, my bad.

You know it would be great if all of the above information was available to everyone, so as to not have egg all over one’s face when people spew such refutable garbage. FACT, NOT FICTION (AKA living in your own little world).

Oilers biggest issue right now is the PK… it’s horrendous… 67.9%, ranked 29th, allowing 18 goals 13 games, that’s a team issue.

Why isn’t everyone quoting Oilers 5v5 stats this year? Strange.
You know a lot of the "tough teams" the Oilers have faced, are bottom 10 teams right?
 
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You know a lot of the "tough teams" the Oilers have faced, are bottom 10 teams right?

Lazy take.

Using this year’s smaller sample size is a weaker argument unless you will also agree that Matthews will score 38 goals and 82 points this season.

LEAFS - 13 games
Canadiens
Capitals*
Senators
Coyotes
Stars*+
Jets+
Knights+
Sharks
Kings*+
Ducks
Flyers+
Bruins*+
Hurricanes*+

TEAM B - 13 games
Canucks
Flames*+
Sabres
Hurricanes*+
Blues*
Penguins*
Blues*
Blackhawks
Flames*+
Preds*
Devils+
Stars*+
Capitals*

*denotes playoff team from last season (Oilers 9, Leafs 5)

+denotes in a playoff spot this season (Leafs 7 Oilers 5)… used points percentage.

What’s you argument now?

This shit can be looked up on the internet with a little bit of effort.

Lazy take.
 

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Lazy take.

Using this year’s smaller sample size is a weaker argument unless you will also agree that Matthews will score 38 goals and 82 points this season.

LEAFS - 13 games
Canadiens
Capitals*
Senators
Coyotes
Stars*+
Jets+
Knights+
Sharks
Kings*+
Ducks
Flyers+
Bruins*+
Hurricanes*+

TEAM B - 13 games
Canucks
Flames*+
Sabres
Hurricanes*+
Blues*
Penguins*
Blues*
Blackhawks
Flames*+
Preds*
Devils+
Stars*+
Capitals*

*denotes playoff team from last season (Oilers 9, Leafs 5)

+denotes in a playoff spot this season (Leafs 7 Oilers 5)… used points percentage.

What’s you argument now?

This shit can be looked up on the internet with a little bit of effort.

Lazy take.
Okay so they have had a relatively close toughness of schedule? You are making it sound like the Oilers had such a tough schedule and the Leafs had it easy.
 
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Okay so they have had a relatively close toughness of schedule? You are making it sound like the Oilers had such a tough schedule and the Leafs had it easy.

I would say when 70% of the teams the Oilers have faced this year were playoff teams last season, while only 40% of teams the Leafs have faced this far were playoff teams last year… and the fact that the Leafs have faced more Pacific teams (weaker division, as per 99% of Leaf fans will claim) than the Oilers… yes, the Leafs have had an easier schedule than the Oilers so far.

It’s fact - how can that be refuted?
 

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Why in a thread about Campbell is everyone so concerned with Murray. If we buy him out next year it’s a 600K cap hit followed by two million the following When the cap should jump majorly.

If and it’s a big if he doesn’t regains his form he will be Kos all over again. I think he will be an average goalie but that’s about it. Definitely an overpayment and not somebody Holland should have went out of his way to break the bank and sign. He has Toronto envy.

This thread is only still going because of Leafs fans who are obsessed with our goaltending, so naturally there'll be some push back. You don't understand this somehow?
 

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Oilers currently have a 3.46 GAA (horrendous 25th in the league), while the leafs give up 2.54 (8th best).. why are the leafs and Matt Murray being brought up again?

J5ck Campbell sucks and it’s almost like we all knew it for a whole calendar year almost now lmao.

And oilers fans loved dumping on the leafs for their slow start.. yet:

Leafs 7-4-2 for 16
Oilers 7-6-0 for 14 playing in a significantly weaker division. LMAO.

4 out of 6 of the Leafs losses came to the significantly weaker Pacific division. In a playoff round against any team in the pacific the Leafs get smoked.
 

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4 out of 6 of the Leafs losses came to the significantly weaker Pacific division. In a playoff round against any team in the pacific the Leafs get smoked.

Yeah, and Kallgren played in all of them but the first Vegas game.

If the Leafs have to start their #4 goalie in the playoffs, I think they lose to anyone. Kallgren's never put up .900 in an NHL season.

That said, most teams aren't winning games with their #4 goalie becoming their #1.
 

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.946 tonight for Campbell against the Most Respectful Cup Winners of our generation. Not a surprise really, Oilers finally put their work boots on and played some defence.
 
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