AddyTheWrath
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Of course when the Oilers make a decent move everyone still thinks the other organization was the winner.
Clear win win win for everyone involved here
Clear win win win for everyone involved here
Confirmed with Link: [EDM/CAR] Jesse Puljujarvi for Patrik Puistola
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oobga
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Help out from under our horribly mismanaged cap is the tiniest of victories. It's like being stuck in a giant hole you dug and getting someone to lend you a rope to climb out with for 90% off. What a deal!
Carolina gets a player they have been trying to lowball Holland on for a long time, knowing eventually Holland will sell at the absolute bottom, and got it.
Drivesaitl
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No I'm saying I'm starting to ascertain how Holland works. Which most of the board seem to notice. i.e. that he doesn't.
Derrick Brassard was our TDL forward addition last season. Anybody even remember him? Anybody care to mention even an iota of contribution from him? This is Hollands idea of a player. Kane fell in our lap. That kind of fortune isn't going to strike two years in a row. The likelihood of another absolute nothing Brassard type player could.
I kinda think you traded the wrong player though. Puljujärvi had some value for the 3rd and 4th - Yamamoto not so much. Could be that Yamamoto couldnt be traded without a pick, so thats why Pulju was the one who had to go. Hope you`ll get Ekholm or Chychrun and a Top6 winger to fill out the team.
NotAVacuumSalesman
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The Oils have a pretty good prospect pipeline. He looks to be 8 or 9 in the depth chart, which is negligible.
The cap space created in the trade was more crucial for the TDL.
Drivesaitl
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But it won't be. Look for Yama to be in topsix AGAIN tomorrow night eating around 18mins. We both agree on the bolded. Just theres little indication it will occur. Don't think we're playing Yama just to shop him either. this is how we always utilize him under Woody and I can't imagine blowing empty net chances if influencing hearts and minds of other GM's. I can't think anybody but Seattle would even be interested and them probably not, just sentimental reasons.
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Jimmi McJenkins
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I think they move him as well. The Cap space is absolutely paramount, so even if Puljujarvi could provide value, it's not enough for that the $3M lets them do overall.
Drivesaitl
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Bang. Somebody gets it.
Yama also has multiple times serious concussions and either one or two of them causing lost time instances even this season. No GM is going to want to eat that contract and term for a smallest player in league who has serial concussion issues which will only get worse. The writing on the wall is Yama probably shouldn't even be here, or playing. Carolina get a tough body solid bottomsix player that will bolster their lineup and physicality and who is tough to play against. Pulju hits like a train and has really worked hard on that aspect of game.
One of the best moments last night was Pulju and Kostin battering Bruins defenders. Board shaking hits.
Jimmi McJenkins
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You, You don't get it.
It's not an either/or? They didn't move Puljujarvi to keep Yamo. What's wrong with you. They need the cap space for OTHER things. Cap space has a TON of value. A $3M 4th liner, not so much.
Wake up. Even for trolling this is ridiculous.
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Yams will be part of a package.. no one is trading for him straight up lol
Drivesaitl
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It is an either or. One of these players were going, not both, and the one isn't. The useless cat has 9 lives here as has been shown time and again and somehow is still glued to our topsix getting 20mins squandering chances. Its fair to be disgusted in that.
Carolina gets a useful player. We get to retain a useless player that won't be moved without sweetening the pot and losing other assets.
It looks like I was right on something - I guessed Aho was a factor in this, because they train together in the summer and Aho probably wanted him to Raleigh.
Yamamoto is a better player than Puljujarvi, though no one on opposite sides of that argument is ever going to agree. Yamo is having a tough year, but I think it's fairly easy to argue that for two of the four seasons he's been here, he's been a legit top six forward. He'll need a hot finish to get his numbers up this season, but he's getting a lot of unjustified hate right now imo.
Good luck, like Magnus Paajarvi and Nail Yakupov before you Jesse.
Can't say he didn't get a fair shake here, was given plenty of time with McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent Hopkins, etc. etc. and couldn't make it work with any of those guys.
Can't say he didn't get a fair shake here, was given plenty of time with McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent Hopkins, etc. etc. and couldn't make it work with any of those guys.
Jimmi McJenkins
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They both aren't good enough for their cost, it's why the team has to move on to get better.
Drivesaitl
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Lets see how this comment ages. Yama is not a legit topsix forward and rarely has even resembled one. His whole NHL career hes had two 2mth stretches where he put some production together, which makes up an appreciable amount of his career production. Most of the time he's an engine not firing. Do career month splits on the player and it comes off something like 1/8mths he resembles a top six player. The other 7, on average, he doesn't.
Indeed take the ONE segment of 26pts in 27GP season out and this player has not been anywhere close to topsix production and especially considering riding shotgun, almost exclusively with the 1,2 production Centers in the entire league. Who get production despite the non existent contribution.
Add serial concussion issues and this is as slam dunk as it gets of the player having no expected value.
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KarmaPolice
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For the most part, just glad the Pulju saga is over. It's been since like 2019 that there has been talk he wanted to be traded elsewhere. Hope things work out for him and he's happy in Carolina.
Sounds like Holland is looking pretty hard at trading for a Dman, and maybe moving JP's contract will help facilitate that.
Sounds like Holland is looking pretty hard at trading for a Dman, and maybe moving JP's contract will help facilitate that.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Wendo, being the best. Yes I'm her hype man, deal with it.
Drivesaitl
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One player has his contract expiring at the end of the season, the other doesn’t. He needed cap, he took the deal he saw and the guy who played far less minutes than the other. Doesn’t matter if you think the coach is dumb or not. Any GM moves the player playing less.
Again, if he is so good, some other team would have offered morels amazing the obsession this fan base has for nothing players but shit on our actual good ones.
Drivesaitl
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It was a direct response to what you said. Is there something unsaid I'm supposed to get?
Jimmi McJenkins
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It seems, on a fundamental level, you don't understand how the cap system works.
I mean this is just not true. First season (19-20) he was around 1 ppg every month. 20-21 he struggled, but was only terrible in May, otherwise paced pretty consistently. Last year, bad January and February, otherwise 0.5 a game and then red hot in March.
This year's been tough, but if sticks around he'll hopefully have 20 games to turn it around a bit. The fact that he's getting a ton of chances makes me think another hot streak is possible. He's been way better than you're willing to admit.
Can people wait and see what other trades get made between now and the trade deadline before we assess the impact of this deal?
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