ECQF: (WC1) Boston Bruins @ (M1) Carolina Hurricanes | Series tied 3-3

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GIN ANTONIC

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Yep. He served his penalty, and the game shifted pretty drastically from there. Seems like justice served and we move on.

EDIT: As for him flying in like he was shot out of a canon...I wish more players showed that effort more often. Pastrnak included.
No problem with the shot out of a cannon thing... just if you can't control your body and momentum then it can be a reckless and dangerous play. I get what he was trying to do and wouldn't fault someone for the attempt but you just have to be more careful than that.
 

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FWIW, Dave Jackson, ESPN's ref analyst, thought it was more than an errant stick because of how he turned the angle of the blade on the second whack. This occurred post-Lindholm hit.


In the ~10 seconds prior to that, Teravainen was slashed on the pants by Nosek, knocked down by an awkward head-level hit from Coyle, then the two lazy swing-slashes by Forbert. I'm guessing the league judged that those events crossed a line from accidental to reckless, given the game situation.
 

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Obviously a must win for Boston. A loss today means a loss on Sunday, too, TBH. Very curious if they stick with Marchand/Bergeron/Pastrnak or go back to splitting up the lines now that they control the matchups better at home. Keeping the super line together and trying for 0-0 the rest of the game might be the only way to get through the Carolina D. Its what worked in the past against the Canes, but obviously this version of the Canes is harder to complete the "0-0 the rest of the game" half of the story.
 
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Obviously a must win for Boston. A loss today means a loss on Sunday, too, TBH. Very curious if they stick with Marchand/Bergeron/Pastrnak or go back to splitting up the lines now that they control the matchups better at home. Keeping the super line together and trying for 0-0 the rest of the game might be the only way to get through the Carolina D. Its what worked in the past against the Canes, but obviously this version of the Canes is harder to complete the "0-0 the rest of the game" half of the story.
I kind of feel like they are going to go perfection line since as you mentioned it’s a must win and at home.

Also with Lindholm out and a fresh untested goalie you probably feel like you need to get out to an early lead and then try to lock it down after that.
 
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Obviously a must win for Boston. A loss today means a loss on Sunday, too, TBH. Very curious if they stick with Marchand/Bergeron/Pastrnak or go back to splitting up the lines now that they control the matchups better at home. Keeping the super line together and trying for 0-0 the rest of the game might be the only way to get through the Carolina D. Its what worked in the past against the Canes, but obviously this version of the Canes is harder to complete the "0-0 the rest of the game" half of the story.
I'm curious, what forward line matchups do you Bruins fans think will be much better at home? Not trying to be contentious or trash talk here, just genuinely curious what Bs fans think. Because the way I see it is if you guys reunite 63-37-88, no matter how you matchup the other 3 lines against any of our 4, all 3 will likely be outmatched by quite a bit there, outweighing any advantage by reuniting the top line.

John Forslund (former Canes PBP, current Seattle PBP, calling the game tonight) alluded to this on a podcast the other night and it got me thinking too. I just don't see any great options for the Bs and matchups even in Boston.
 

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No problem with the shot out of a cannon thing... just if you can't control your body and momentum then it can be a reckless and dangerous play. I get what he was trying to do and wouldn't fault someone for the attempt but you just have to be more careful than that.

I hear you but 99/100 times I don't think there is an injury on that play and we wouldn't still be talking about it 99/100 times.

I'm curious, what forward line matchups do you Bruins fans think will be much better at home? Not trying to be contentious or trash talk here, just genuinely curious what Bs fans think. Because the way I see it is if you guys reunite 63-37-88, no matter how you matchup the other 3 lines against any of our 4, all 3 will likely be outmatched by quite a bit there, outweighing any advantage by reuniting the top line.

John Forslund (former Canes PBP, current Seattle PBP, calling the game tonight) alluded to this on a podcast the other night and it got me thinking too. I just don't see any great options for the Bs and matchups even in Boston.

I think the Staal line has been excellent defensively and getting them away from that matchup will help that line a lot. Then its just grinding the game into a low event slog when the other lines are out there the best you can so that the times when the Bergeron line are out there have more relative meaning.

edit: And, frankly, for the reasons you mentioned, this is not the ideal move for Boston. Going into the series, the hope was that the Bruins would have the better top six and the Canes the better bottom six and then we see what happens. In practice, Marchand/Bergeron/DeBrusk was neutered offensively and Hall/Haula/Pasta struggled defensively. After Game 1, it was easy to point to puck luck and hope that some minor adjustments could work it out. Game 2 was different. Who the hell knows what happens in Game 3. DeBrusk could score two goals and change the narrative completely. But the Bruins are obviously running out of time. Despite the end of Game 2 being a shit show, the Bruins did finally start getting that sense of urgency. So who knows.
 
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Bruins likely either lose this one in 4, or mount a comeback starting tonight and force a game 7, don’t believe there will be a middle ground. Swayman will have to steal the games until Lindholm is back if at all, X factor was always going to be goaltending
 

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Kochetkov in the starter's crease.. Holy Diving Raanta..
is there any mention of what's keeping Raanta out? Wasn't much contact so I'd be a little concerned that he tweaked something in the hip area that could keep him out a bit longer
 

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is there any mention of what's keeping Raanta out? Wasn't much contact so I'd be a little concerned that he tweaked something in the hip area that could keep him out a bit longer

Not anything I've seen. He was on the ice for morning practice so looks like he will be dressed as the back-up.
 
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The goaltending situation opens up an X-factor for Boston to potentially turn the series. Just last night we saw two games where a very young goalie walked in as a heavy underdog and either won, or nearly created an upset singlehandedly. Obviously Canes fans would like to think that Kochetkov is going to physically and mentally stand his ground tonight, but Swayman is also a very good young goalie and could just as easily take over that role. If that happens and Andersen/Raanta are slow getting back, it could create one of those tide shifts that happens every year in the playoffs.

One of the more intriguing goalie matchups in recent memory IMO.
 

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Don't care to go searching. Just figured I'd ask due to your sensationalist drama. It appears he's gonna survive though
Sensationalist drama? Argue the play all you want but the reality is he was knocked out of the game and ruled out, not sure what's sensationalist about fans and the team being upset their goalie was injured (when the starter is already injured himself). Fortunately for the Canes, Pyotr the Great's play lived up to his name.
 

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I hear you but 99/100 times I don't think there is an injury on that play and we wouldn't still be talking about it 99/100 times.



I think the Staal line has been excellent defensively and getting them away from that matchup will help that line a lot. Then its just grinding the game into a low event slog when the other lines are out there the best you can so that the times when the Bergeron line are out there have more relative meaning.

edit: And, frankly, for the reasons you mentioned, this is not the ideal move for Boston. Going into the series, the hope was that the Bruins would have the better top six and the Canes the better bottom six and then we see what happens. In practice, Marchand/Bergeron/DeBrusk was neutered offensively and Hall/Haula/Pasta struggled defensively. After Game 1, it was easy to point to puck luck and hope that some minor adjustments could work it out. Game 2 was different. Who the hell knows what happens in Game 3. DeBrusk could score two goals and change the narrative completely. But the Bruins are obviously running out of time. Despite the end of Game 2 being a shit show, the Bruins did finally start getting that sense of urgency. So who knows.

Not to start a bad back and forth but before the series started a Bruins fan posted that we highly over rate our own players, but I think the truth is most of the hockey world under rates them badly. I dont know if we have anyone with true superstar potential but Aho, Svech, Turbo and Jarvis would be top 6 on almost any team in the league. So while we may not have 3 players on the level of Pasta, Rat, and Bergeron our top 6 are worlds better than Hall Haula and Debrusk.

Hell Haula couldn't even stick in our bottom six
 

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Sensationalist drama? Argue the play all you want but the reality is he was knocked out of the game and ruled out, not sure what's sensationalist about fans and the team being upset their goalie was injured (when the starter is already injured himself). Fortunately for the Canes, Pyotr the Great's play lived up to his name.
WOE is us pearl clutching merp merp. See he really IS hurt boo hoo

Get over yourselves. A guy got banged up and he's gonna miss a game. The Bruins have one of those cases as well. Come to think of it, Lindholm isn't even going to be in the building tonight so at least Raanta has that going for him.
 
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