Post-Game Talk: ECQF GAME 7 - That's All Folks - It's Over - THANK YOU BERGIE

[NeelyOrr]

I don't care for Jacobs and don't believe he cares about hockey.

That being said, IF the Bs play well and win the cup that is more money for JJ.

Well, the money he spent on FoligNO would have been of better use in his guilded fireplace.

If I were Bergeron I’d be telling who ever is in charge, my return would be contingent on Sweeney and Cassidy’s employment being terminated.

Sweeney and Neely. I corrected that for you.

 

[Number8]

Bergy plays for the Bruins or retires.

Agreed — I’d be floored if it’s not either of what you suggest. On the other hand, floored doesn’t cover it when talking about Bergie going to Montreal. Zero chance and zero reason for it to even be discussed. Dumbest notion on the planet. Even for Tony Duuuuh-mato.

 

[Ladyfan]

Well, the money he spent on FoligNO would have been of better use in his guilded fireplace.


Sweeney and Neely. I corrected that for you.

Like I have said I don't care for JJ and agree he doesn't care about the Bs. I do believe he would like a cup win because it would bring him $$$$.

Foligno didn't work out. I think he was a good player and is a good guy but wasn't what we hoped he would be.

 

[Number8]

Like it’s the question…

The real question is: why would Bergeron sign with this abysmal team? A team he hated his whole life?

Like I already said, I have more chances to become a Habs fan than for Bergy to ever sign with them.

Which is less than zero.

Exactly. God I hope we can get off this ridiculous speculation about Bergie and the Habs. Like the Kardashian’s — the world becomes dumber every second they or the Bergie/Habs discussion Is in existence.

 

[ODAAT]

Like I have said I don't care for JJ and agree he doesn't care about the Bs. I do believe he would like a cup win because it would bring him $$$$.

Foligno didn't work out. I think he was a good player and is a good guy but wasn't what we hoped he would be.

agree with Foligno and to a degree, Jacobs family and who`d blame them? If I owned the team and made a pile of dough based on playoff revenue I too would like the boys to make deep runs all the time. The Jacobs approach years ago was one that always left a sour taste in my mouth, felt like every bloody year they were in a contract squabble to save $$$, not really the case over the last 10+ years

I can`t speak to his level of gives a crap when it comes to the Bruins, I`d say he cares more than we likely think so but what I think is that the argument or belief that the Jacobs family takes short cuts when it comes to the team can`t really hold water in the cap era. While the choice of what players to sign to reach the ceiling can be questioned, the Jacobs family has allowed whomever is GM to spend to the cap every year. I`d be pissed if this were a team consistently 10 mill under the cap yearly but it isn`t

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Like I have said I don't care for JJ and agree he doesn't care about the Bs. I do believe he would like a cup win because it would bring him $$$$.

Foligno didn't work out. I think he was a good player and is a good guy but wasn't what we hoped he would be.

Leafs gave up a first round pick for him ,he sucked for them down the stretch and in the playoffs,not sure if it was injury related or not ,never heard where they had any interest in bringing him back either.His numbers hadn’t been good the last few years really,not sure why Sweeney wanted him so bad.Just another bad deal on his part. Not sure what’s going on next season with Bergy,obviously it’s going to make a huge impact one way or the other.But really think it’s time to move on from Sweeney.

 

[Boston BROin]

I feel like I've said this the past few years, but they can go for one more run. Get Bergy back here. Trade DeBrusk and Gryz for a legit 2C. Bring up Lysell to play wing. Have a full year with Hampus and Mac.

 

[Number8]

I am cheering for the Flames and Florida

100%. If it can’t be one of them, then EDM (because it would hurt Leafs fans so). But now doubt I’m pulling for a Flames Panthers final.

 

[BMC]

Bergeron now holds all the cards:

‘Are you going to solve the second line C or should I just retire. You wasted the cap space the top line provided. Tell me exactly what your doing or I am going to retire.’

This. I don't know that he would actually do this but I dearly wish he would. And not sign a new deal until they actually do it, that's how far I would trust them at this point.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

I don't know anything about easy paths. Every team that qualifies for the Stanley Cup playoffs is a quality team. This isn't the 1990s with 16 out of 21 teams making it.

I'm not sure how Top Seed vs. Low Seed has anything to do with match-ups. So TB lost because they had a better regular season than CBJ? When I think bad match-ups I'm thinking style of play, specials teams, weaknesses and strengths.

I didn't realize this before the series but Carolina was a bad match-up for Boston. Strong face-off team that negated on off Boston's usual strengths. Strong PK team against a team that relies on it's PP to gain momentum. A team strong up the middle vs. a team that wasn't.

Maybe the Bruins would of fared better against say Florida. Like 2019 and TB, we'll never know.

hockey is the toughest and most unpredictable sport.
it doesnt matter who plays who.
carolina was by far the worst matchup for us this year tho. l wanted the leafs all day.
bottom line is the east had all 8 teams get over 100 points.
Bruins were really good but just didnt have the offense these other teams have.
If they had krejci its prob a different story

 

[ODAAT]

I feel like I've said this the past few years, but they can go for one more run. Get Bergy back here. Trade DeBrusk and Gryz for a legit 2C. Bring up Lysell to play wing. Have a full year with Hampus and Mac.

don`t need to trade for a legit C, Forsberg is UFA, you`d have to move $$ out and that`s where Jake and Grizz or whomever might have to go but I don`t think you have to make a trade for a 2nd C.

Never happen but Kadri also a UFA, is he an upgrade on the 2C/3C position? Dunno, I do know, he`d, at the very least hit someone and play with grit but...he`d be suspended after one game at the TD

 

[UncleRico]

Well, the money he spent on FoligNO would have been of better use in his guilded fireplace.


Sweeney and Neely. I corrected that for you.

Cassidy too. Out of all the players brought in over the last six years Only two players have elevated their game or even really stayed consistent to their career averages under Cassidy and those two guys are Nick ritchie and and Eric Haula.

Whatever it is about Cassidy’s system or coaching, players more often than not do worse under Cassidy.

 

[BruinDust]

hockey is the toughest and most unpredictable sport.
it doesnt matter who plays who.
carolina was by far the worst matchup for us this year tho. l wanted the leafs all day.
bottom line is the east had all 8 teams get over 100 points.
Bruins were really good but just didnt have the offense these other teams have.
If they had krejci its prob a different story

Absolutely.

I know first round losses suck but in today's NHL I'm not sure if its something to be ashamed of.

I know my Leaf fan buddies are hurting today but is there any shame in losing to the 2-time defending champs with arguably the best playoff goaltender we've seen since Roy in his prime. From the start of the 3rd period of Game 6 onward Vasilievsky basically shut the door for the next 4 period plus OT. His numbers late in playoff series are ridiculous.

 

[Number8]

Hate telling you this but if they stay the course and Bergy retires the 2023 playoffs aren't guaranteed.

Agreed. I’d even go so far as to say that Bergie retires and they don’t find at least one bonafide 1/2 center the chances of ‘23 PO’s are slim. If they don’t find one, then chances are extremely good they don’t come anywhere near PO and are a lottery team.

 

[ODAAT]

Absolutely.

I know first round losses suck but in today's NHL I'm not sure if its something to be ashamed of.

I know my Leaf fan buddies are hurting today but is there any shame in losing to the 2-time defending champs with arguably the best playoff goaltender we've seen since Roy in his prime. From the start of the 3rd period of Game 6 onward Vasilievsky basically shut the door for the next 4 period plus OT. His numbers late in playoff series are ridiculous.

in all honesty, if I were a Leaf fan, this year was THE year to knock off the two time cup champs, they have played an absolute boatload of hockey over 2 years, they lose one of their best players in game 7 and they still can`t get it done. If all those Leaf players were wearing Spoked B jersey`s and we had to endure what they have done over the last number of years, would you feel the same about it? Not me, I`d be livid

 

[BMC]

It’s a great point and I’m sure everyone will be rational and level headed when they post about it

If you really believe that I've got an important bridge for sale...

 

[BMC]

I think the pressure is on Charlie right now.

If he's truly in tune with what's going on he's got to go to dear old dad and tell him another complete housecleaning is needed like the one they did in 2006, as they have repeated the same mistakes that made the 06 revolution necessary.

 

[Coach Parker]

This. I don't know that he would actually do this but I dearly wish he would. And not sign a new deal until they actually do it, that's how far I would trust them at this point.

I would expect him to do this very thing to avoid what Krejci went through.

'I'm not here for a rebuild so show me my replacement so I can take over the 2nd line or I'm going to retire.'

 

[BruinDust]

in all honesty, if I were a Leaf fan, this year was THE year to knock off the two time cup champs, they have played an absolute boatload of hockey over 2 years, they lose one of their best players in game 7 and they still can`t get it done. If all those Leaf players were wearing Spoked B jersey`s and we had to endure what they have done over the last number of years, would you feel the same about it? Not me, I`d be livid

Did they?

Because they got a 20 week break before the RTP tournament. An 7 week tournament with minimal travel.

Then despite playing into late September they didn't resume until January. In a 9 1/2 month stretch they played 7 weeks only to return to another shortened season with strict divisional play and once again a lot less travel.

I'm not discounting their cup wins, everybody was on the same playing field. I just don't think the lengths of the previous seasons hurt them at all.

 

[BMC]

But those results make JJ money and that is why Sweeney will be here next year and until he starts to show a loss to JJ.

Anybody who thinks it still isn't all about the money explain why we moved picks for cap space that was never used? Two answers, Sweeney doing JJ's bidding or Sweeney was incompetent.

Embrace the power of the word "and" in your last sentence and I think you will have nailed it.

 

[ODAAT]

Did they?

Because they got a 20 week break before the RTP tournament. An 7 week tournament with minimal travel.

Then despite playing into late September they didn't resume until January. In a 9 1/2 month stretch they played 7 weeks only to return to another shortened season with strict divisional play and once again a lot less travel.

I'm not discounting their cup wins, everybody was on the same playing field. I just don't think the lengths of the previous seasons hurt them at all.

I`ll respectfully disagree, compared to literally every other team in the league, they have played the most hockey over the last few years. Leafs had their chance and blew it as usual

 

[BMC]

I'm not putting an asterisk on it, but don't pretend the Bruins had a hard road to the Cup in 2019. The Bruins got all the breaks to make it to the Cup finals that year.

Which is one reason why their failure to defeat St Louis hurts so damn much even now.

 

[ODAAT]

Which is one reason why their failure to defeat St Louis hurts so damn much even now.

painful for sure

 

[Coach Parker]

Simple fact, I don't see how this team gets any better than what we just saw. Everything points to the exact opposite in fact given Time's undefeated record.

If Bergeron is gone this team is not a playoff team. Buffalo, Detroit and even Ottawa are poised to make the next step forward and Charlie Coyle is lining up as the 1st line C.

Either get the #1 center via a huge trade and push Bergeron to the second line with Marchand and a rookie or sell off assets and let a new GM draft.

Hall - (TRADE) - Pastrnak
Marchand - Bergeron (ROOKIE)

Lindholm - McAvoy

Swayman
Ullmark

...or blow it all up and only keep Hall and Pastrnak up front and the top pair. Nothing we've seen over the last couple years points to anyone on the current roster developing further than what we just saw.

Time will add more to every single one of the names not above in a purely negative way.

 

[162bruins]

Agreed. I’d even go so far as to say that Bergie retires and they don’t find at least one bonafide 1/2 center the chances of ‘23 PO’s are slim. If they don’t find one, then chances are extremely good they don’t come anywhere near PO and are a lottery team.

How about Mark Scheifele, he may want out of Winnipeg