Post-Game Talk: ECQF GAME 7 - That's All Folks - It's Over - THANK YOU BERGIE

[BruinDust]

Its at least a better narrative than the Bruins choking in 7 games, yet again, to potentially the weakest Stanley Cup champion in league history. Did the Bruins deserve to make the cup finals? Yes. You can't take that away from them. Would they have beaten Tampa? Absolutely not. Stars aligned for them that year and they still couldn't close the deal, at home. This team and organization picks the highest pressure moments to tap out. Everyone knew they wouldn't show up yesterday. Why? Because its what we know of this core. They don't show up in game 7. Its not in their DNA.

I don't even know if you could call yesterday choking because they weren't favored. But holy shit at least show up for the game. It took them 58 minutes to realize "oh shit we're playing game 7"

The Bruins didn't just beat CBJ that year, they flattened them in 5 games.

But they couldnt' defeat the team CBJ whipped out in 4 straight?

OK then.

You should go root for Tampa Bay you sound like they can do no wrong in your eyes. Even when they get swept they are still awesome.

 

[Cournoyer12]

Chelios saying he never seen Bergeron wait for his team yes before at the end of a game. WHAT? He does it all the time. God I hate ESPN.

ESPN, TBS,TNT ALL SUCK EGGS !!! Bettman Hacks!

 

[Otherworld]

Got to see a lot more hockey than I thought.

I am buying a Bergeron jersey very soon.

Thank you Bergeron.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

The Bruins didn't just beat CBJ that year, they flattened them in 5 games.

But they couldnt' defeat the team CBJ whipped out in 4 straight?

OK then.

You should go root for Tampa Bay you sound like they can do no wrong in your eyes. Even when they get swept they are still awesome.

So Bruins have gotten beat by Tampa the last 3 times they played them , and pretty handily , but they would have beaten them in 2019 if they hadn’t been eliminated by Columbus, sure .Lol . Plenty of examples of really good teams ,many even being the favourites getting beat by inferior teams ,especially in the first rounds,very few have gone on to win a cup most go out the next round.

 

[Cournoyer12]

From a Habs fan: congrats to a fine season to the Bruins! I don’t think many outside your fan base expected them to stretch that series to 7 games, but they help fast like Bull Terriors! Personally I thought they’d take a step back this year but low and behold they just keep coming. I hope Bergeron returns,CLASS ACT! But if not you still have a solid tandem in nets and a fairly nice core.Maybe a couple of younger pieces, but I think you guys will still be in contention. I know our rivalry will be one sided for the next couple of years, I look forward to when it does become a true battle again. League is always better when both Bruins and Habs are good. Anyways congratulations on a fine season!

 

[BruinDust]

So Bruins have gotten beat by Tampa the last 3 times they played them , and pretty handily , but they would have beaten them in 2019 if they hadn’t been eliminated by Columbus, sure .Lol . Plenty of examples of really good teams ,many even being the favourites getting beat by inferior teams ,especially in the first rounds,very few have gone on to win a cup most go out the next round.

Where are the 3 times? I count 2 (2018 and 2020).

So what if they lost to them in 2018. That's the 2018 team. Irrelevant. Is the playoff missing 2017 Tampa season relevant? I'm gonna say no.

Anyone who puts any stock in that BS return-to-play tournament needs their heads examined. Bringing guys back to play after nearly 20 weeks of not even skating in the middle of the summer. In a strictly close bubble set-up with a zillion protocols to follow. Rask leaving mid-series. I'm not trying to discount TB's cup win but as far as evaluating performance, the 2020 RTP tournament means less than nothing.

And I never said the Bruins would of absolutely 100% defeated TB had they meet in 2019.

But this assumption that had the Bruins meet TB in 2019 would of be an absolutely guaranteed 100% defeat of the Bruins is complete bullshit.

 

[162bruins]

i'd like the team to flush out some of its players but suspect it'll be just more of the same - no changes with players or management.

 

[mjhfb]

Interesting that the word most used was "execution".
Before the game, Cassidy stressed they had to execute to be successful. After the game, the lack of execution was noted, for example their early 2 on 1 miss, not executing defensive zone coverage, or later Coyle's empty net.
But their execution problem is just not with the players. Earlier management had a plan and lined up draft picks, but didn't execute well. Management thought Grz would be Krug, he wasn't. Management again cleared cap space and wanted to get younger and faster, but again leaned on the oldest #1C in the league and executed a bottom six rebuild of older slower players.
I agree one of the Bruins problems was execution, I just think management needs to first look in the mirror when they use that word.

 

[chrisab123]

The Bruins didn't just beat CBJ that year, they flattened them in 5 games.

But they couldnt' defeat the team CBJ whipped out in 4 straight?

OK then.

You should go root for Tampa Bay you sound like they can do no wrong in your eyes. Even when they get swept they are still awesome.

So because I point out the obvious from that year that Tampas team was a wagon and flattened the Bruins that year means I need to root for Tampa?

I get it, Bruins can do no wrong and would have beaten a team that owned them easily. You know its all about matchups and Boston matched up much better with CBJ. There's no shame in acknowledging that the Bruins got really lucky that year. They took advantage of it until the lights got the brightest.

Remember, choking isn't exclusive to the Bs they just do it better than everyone else.

 

[GoBs]

Hall was terrible as was smith
Hauler did a fantastic job down the stretch but the Bruins really needed a second line center for Hall and pasta
If they picked up a top player maybe it would convince Bergeron to stay for a year or two
But if Bergeron does return and the Bruins do not address the second line center position then I’m afraid it would be more first round exists

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Each defensive pair was on for a goal against. But all 3 goals scored with Coyle's line on. Cassidy obviously tried to hide them, but nothing worked.

Hall, Pasta, Fred & Nosek were particularly terrible, Smith not too far ahead of them.

Was the best defensive play of the night McAvoy going behind the Canes net to cut off Debrusk's rush?

Good experience for Swayman.

Only goals from D for B's came from Forbort & Clifton.

Was Slavin the difference? Led Canes in scoring (2-6-8) and plus/minus (+10)

 

[chrisab123]

i'd like the team to flush out some of its players but suspect it'll be just more of the same - no changes with players or management.

Sweeney will get an extension. Cassidy might get fired. But Sweeney got them to the playoffs and got Jacobs his playoff money. He's safe

 

[BruinDust]

So because I point out the obvious from that year that Tampas team was a wagon and flattened the Bruins that year means I need to root for Tampa?

I get it, Bruins can do no wrong and would have beaten a team that owned them easily. You know its all about matchups and Boston matched up much better with CBJ. There's no shame in acknowledging that the Bruins got really lucky that year. They took advantage of it until the lights got the brightest

No one said it would be easy.

And yeah match-ups can matter.

So explain why CBJ was such a bad match-up for TB that year. And why the Bruins were such a bad match-up for CBJ?

 

[162bruins]

Flush suggestions:
Grzelcyk
Coyle
Frederic
Nosek
Smith
Clifton
Foligno

There's nobody in Providence good enough to fill the shoes

 

[BruinDust]

I'm gonna write the NHL and request they put an asterisk next to the Bruins 2019 Eastern Conference Championship that denotes the only reason the Bruins were Conference Champions that year is because Tampa shit the bed against Columbus and the true Eastern Champs were actually a team that never won a single playoff game that year.

 

[chrisab123]

No one said it would be easy.

And yeah match-ups can matter.

So explain why CBJ was such a bad match-up for TB that year. And why the Bruins were such a bad match-up for CBJ?

Tampa choked. That whole series no one showed up and we all laughed about it on here. They had an amazing record and figured they would coast. Who said the Bruins were a bad matchup for CBJ? Tampa is a completely different story. Same with Washington at the time.

 

[Ladyfan]

I would keep Forbort. He was excellent.

 

[BruinDust]

Tampa choked. That whole series no one showed up and we all laughed about it on here. They had an amazing record and figured they would coast.

So it's not about match-ups then. It's choking now.


You need to stick to one narrative.

 

[the negotiator]

Sweeney will get an extension. Cassidy might get fired. But Sweeney got them to the playoffs and got Jacobs his playoff money. He's safe

Sad but true...for the ownership it's all about the money

 

[chrisab123]

I'm gonna write the NHL and request they put an asterisk next to the Bruins 2019 Eastern Conference Championship that denotes the only reason the Bruins were Conference Champions that year is because Tampa shit the bed against Columbus and the true Eastern Champs were actually a team that never won a single playoff game that year.

No one is saying put an asterisk. But there is no shame in acknowledging that they had a very easy path and wouldn't have beaten Tampa and probably wouldn't have beaten Washington.

So it's not about match-ups then. It's choking now.


You need to stick to one narrative.

No. Same one. Top seed vs the lowest seed. Team didn't show up. Simple.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Where are the 3 times? I count 2 (2018 and 2020).

So what if they lost to them in 2018. That's the 2018 team. Irrelevant. Is the playoff missing 2017 Tampa season relevant? I'm gonna say no.

Anyone who puts any stock in that BS return-to-play tournament needs their heads examined. Bringing guys back to play after nearly 20 weeks of not even skating in the middle of the summer. In a strictly close bubble set-up with a zillion protocols to follow. Rask leaving mid-series. I'm not trying to discount TB's cup win but as far as evaluating performance, the 2020 RTP tournament means less than nothing.

And I never said the Bruins would of absolutely 100% defeated TB had they meet in 2019.

But this assumption that had the Bruins meet TB in 2019 would of be an absolutely guaranteed 100% defeat of the Bruins is complete bullshit.

Ok I will go on believing 2019 was a terrible wasted opportunity,you that it wasn’t,we’re both entitled to our opinions,and neither one of us will change the others opinions,so why continue to argue about it.Lol

 

[chrisab123]

Sad but true...for the ownership it's all about the money

Always

 

[The don godfather]

Darn pain still stings in the morning. What could have been feeling . I guess you all are feeling that right now. Can we fast forward next regular season and just come to game 1 of the 2023 playoffs. I wanna get at this again.

 

[chrisab123]

Darn pain still stings in the morning. What could have been feeling . I guess you all are feeling that right now. Can we fast forward next regular season and just come to game 1 of the 2023 playoffs. I wanna get at this again.

Hate telling you this but if they stay the course and Bergy retires the 2023 playoffs aren't guaranteed.

 

[GoBs]

I would keep Forbort. He was excellent.

I agree without him on the PK we would have never saw game seven